ANWR Question

The Senate approved drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. The measure was villainous attached to a filibuster-proof budget bill passed yesterday.

A question though.

The most liberal estimates - and I don't mean left-leaning - predict that there are about 10.5 billion barrels of oil available at the ANWR site. Some estimates have it at half that.

The U.S. currently uses just over 7 billion barrels of oil a year.

Peak production from ANWR of 1 million barrels a day isn't expected until 2025 at the earliest.

Americans use 22 million barrels of oil a day.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051104/.../arctic_refuge and other things I've read through the years.

So I what want to know is this: is it worth it?

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Originally Posted by bhallg2k

The Senate approved drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. The measure was villainous attached to a filibuster-proof budget bill passed yesterday.

A question though.

The most liberal estimates - and I don't mean left-leaning - predict that there are about 10.5 billion barrels of oil available at the ANWR site. Some estimates have it at half that.

The U.S. currently uses just over 7 billion barrels of oil a year.

Peak production from ANWR of 1 million barrels a day isn't expected until 2025 at the earliest.

Americans use 22 million barrels of oil a day.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051104/.../arctic_refuge and other things I've read through the years.

So I what want to know is this: is it worth it?

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Howdy bhall,

I read the article and was somewhat surprised,that they only opened up 2000 acres,that really ain't much,we got lots of ranches and farms,down here in Texas,that are bigger than that,heck-my old family farm used to be over 800 acres. Also,I don't see any reason why the oil patch couldn't git things up and runnin,in less than 10 years..certainly drilling operations could commence in less than a year and once they git the rigs up there and the locations surveyed and built,it'll go pretty dang quick.

I think the number they used for total production,is on the low side and that more pockets and reserves,will be found,once the drilling rigs move in and they git a feel for the area. Drilling samples are the best evidence for determining the formation in which the reserves and pockets,are held.

We'll just have to see how things work out,certainly,we need to rely less on foreign imports of oil and develope our own resources more,along with some degree of conservation too.

Have a good one ...

oil prouduction and exloration is not falling behind what is happening is the oil companies are shutting down refineries and building new refineries has a cost that only they can afford.
The refineries hit by katrina were already shut down monthes before the storm. The oil companies are luaghing all the way to the bank and were stuck with a diesel price as high as 3 bucks a gallon

It's welfare for oil companies, nothing more. We all get to pay for wells that will never turn a profit, who said communism was dead?

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy bhall,

I read the article and was somewhat surprised,that they only opened up 2000 acres,that really ain't much,we got lots of ranches and farms,down here in Texas,that are bigger than that,heck-my old family farm used to be over 800 acres. Also,I don't see any reason why the oil patch couldn't git things up and runnin,in less than 10 years..certainly drilling operations could commence in less than a year and once they git the rigs up there and the locations surveyed and built,it'll go pretty dang quick.

I think the number they used for total production,is on the low side and that more pockets and reserves,will be found,once the drilling rigs move in and they git a feel for the area. Drilling samples are the best evidence for determining the formation in which the reserves and pockets,are held.

We'll just have to see how things work out,certainly,we need to rely less on foreign imports of oil and develope our own resources more,along with some degree of conservation too.

Have a good one ...

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I don't see how something that couldn't possibly supply more than a percentage of our daily oil needs can justify the potential environmental damage it could create in the process.

If we're willing to invade Iraq solely because "it's the right thing to do," and that is the latest rationale for that clusterfuck, why can't we leave pristine lands alone for the very same reason?

Jesus, why must we destroy everything?

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Originally Posted by bhallg2k

I don't see how something that couldn't possibly supply more than a percentage of our daily oil needs can justify the potential environmental damage it could create in the process.

If we're willing to invade Iraq solely because "it's the right thing to do," and that is the latest rationale for that clusterfuck, why can't we leave pristine lands alone for the very same reason?

Jesus, why must we destroy everything?

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You are just repeating the typical liberal mantra, its gonna kill the enviroment and the poor caribou. Well, we already drill up there and we had the same fight with the enviro-whackos the last time. And guess what?? None of what they said would happen, happened!! The caribou population doubled and the enviroment in Alaska is fine. I went on a cruise up there and it was great.

Find a new and realistic argument.

Show me something that says the caribou population doubled as a result of man's search for oil. Please. 'Cause I sure as hell can't find anything on it.

And while you're at it, let me know what cruise line you took to view the entire 656,425 square miles of Alaska to make such an informed environmental assessment. That sounds like a helluva trip and I need to take one immediately.

heres a little something that should help you out.

scroll down and look at the animals section.

http://www.anwr.org/topten.htm

so much for that argument huh?

why would i have to take a cruise that toured the entire coast?? Only 8% of the northern coast would even be explored? Wierd!

Any chance you could find something independent of an energy consortium web page to point out these wonderful facts?

Alaska Support Industry Alliance, Alaska State Chamber of Commerce, Resource Development Council, Alaska Trucking Association, Alaska Oil & Gas Association, Anchorage Chamber of Commerce, Alaska Miner's Association, Alaska Forest Association.

Those are the sponsors of anwr.org and they don't sound like scientific organizations to me.

C'mon.

And that cruise needed to tour not only the entire coastline but also find some way to fly over every square mile of Alaska for you to be able to give your expert environmental opinion that "Alaska is fine."

how about the people that live there??

http://murkowski.senate.gov/pressapp....cfm?id=248209

Yes, the Republican senator who champions drilling at ANWR is an independent source of information.

Are you kidding?