You may have been tracked by your IP or other ID even if you used the latest CM's

You may have been tracked by your IP or other ID even if you used the latest counter measures.

Microsoft Collaborates With Global Police to Develop Child Exploitation Tracking System for Law Enforcement Agencies
Plea to Bill Gates results in two-year collaboration to develop, roll out system.

TORONTO -- April 7, 2005 -- Microsoft Corp. joined international law enforcement agencies today to unveil an unprecedented computer system that allows global police agencies to share information for tracking online child predators


In American under the provisions of the patriot act it is highly likely that this new techonlogy will be used to fight terrorism, real or precevied and illeagal drugs.

This technology is perfectly suited to trace anyone who has ever open a page at cannibus.com to thier home even if MIT's latest counter measures were used to attempt to cover your tracks.

It's probably not as effective as a phone-tap.

Still its scary how much you can be traced and watched, I spose its needed really. I'm willing to lose a bit of privacy if it helps catch a child abuser.

too bad no one here is a child predator...that we know of anyways

uhhh.. what if they try to use it to help catch a pot head? i think microsoft shoulda told the global po to fuck off because if they can track child molesters, whos to say they cant use the same thing to track who ever they wanted to???

why would they catch a pothead? ur not breaking any laws talking about the time u got really stoned and ate everything in ur kitchen

It was developed for Child Molestors. But now that the tech. is available, the other divisions on law enforcement are more than happy to help out. Being used for a good purpose such a Child Molestation got millions needed for the sofware development. Burning a copy is cheep and available to government. If it's legal to go after Child Molesters with the software, what would make you think a judge will say to you it was illeagal to track you down for another crime (like a drug conspiracy).

People, what Justin is basically saying is, get off the crack and the coke, so our law-enforcement officers can start protecting people.

Edit: right? Please, say, yeah

Justin why are you on these forums? Your not scaring anyone not even the 14 year old kiddies im sure there are more productive and better things for you to be better doing with your personal time than trawling an cannabis forum trying to scare some people who just want to relax and smoke marijuana harming no-one.

Its a bit pathetic.

alright, give me a hypothetical situation where the government would track someone down for something drug related on cannabis.com

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It's probably not as effective as a phone-tap.

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You can be traced through every device your communication has traveled. They can find out who started the msg, where he bought the computer, where the warranty is registered, who lines were used (even if if transmitted wirelessly),etc.

It's better than GPS.



Phone taps can be scrambled be devices that use code generated on sight and descrambled by the other party.

and the columbian king pins probably aren't on this site

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Justin why are you on these forums? Your not scaring anyone not even the 14 year old kiddies im sure there are more productive and better things for you to be better doing with your personal time than trawling an cannabis forum trying to scare some people who just want to relax and smoke marijuana harming no-one.

Its a bit pathetic.

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Tony you and your 14 year olds are the most Pathetic things here. This is not about spreading fear. It about spreading information.

hypothetical situation please.

Im pathetic in what way? You know not a single thing about me you make assumptions based on your own pregidouses.

You are not spreading information, rather disinformation if these systems were ever to come into place it will take years to fully integrate a system to multi-task.

It would be IMPOSSIBLE for someone to be convicted for a crime because they posted something on an internet forum so please save us your embarassment.

nah its possible, they'd just have to start at the post and if that led them to other things...

Unless the poster incriminated himself with a picture of him with some marijuana then i cannot see how they would get an arrest never mind an conviction.

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alright, give me a hypothetical situation where the government would track someone down for something drug related on cannabis.com

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It's more of a when question. It can only be answered by when they have the time and public support. If the public communicate to the govenment their views they will be followed or viewed as tyranical.

Where is not limited to the US. The US is obviously under Fed. jurisdiction. You can link to the DEA's web site to find thier oversees operations.

Currently the Internet Pharmacies has been stung, hit, and, crippled. A lot of internet drug agents need something new to do. I SEE A LOT OF SMOKE!

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Im pathetic in what way? You know not a single thing about me you make assumptions based on your own pregidouses.

You are not spreading information, rather disinformation if these systems were ever to come into place it will take years to fully integrate a system to multi-task.

It would be IMPOSSIBLE for someone to be convicted for a crime because they posted something on an internet forum so please save us your embarassment.

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Do you know the elements of the Federal Crime of Drug Conspiracy?
Look it up or Google it for chrits sake - if you don't believe me

so u cant think of any?

Nah man to be honest i don't really care im not an American citizen so it doesn't concern me.

It does concern me that your government has so little interest in personal freedoms, in a country that is supposedly a free democracy where your people have right to live without persecution that people are arrested for what would be considered trivial matters in other democratic nations.

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Unless the poster incriminated himself with a picture of him with some marijuana then i cannot see how they would get an arrest never mind an conviction.

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sit in the drug court of your jurisdiction. it's open to the public to make sure that the things that happen happen with your consent. BY IGNORING THIS PROBLEM YOU ARE GIVING CONSENT!

Read some the the drug conspiract stories that NORMAL investigates. People have spent decades and more in jail for their words alone regarding pot. Yup talk+pot= go to jail for 10 or more years.

the government monitors everything the NSA knows everything about evryone...they have all phones monitored but not tapped they have a computer system that is ment to pick up certian key phrases like "bomb" or "kill" or to threaten a certain person, im not going to say cuz im ever to parinoid to say it. im sure they have the same type of equipment monitoring pc's looking for certian key strokes on instant mesanger or certain emails...for posting this the NSA is probally sneding feds to the door now so time to lock the door....lmao

Justin, maybe you could help us get in touch with some people.

I underwent a series of drugs (for pain), including Neurontyn, which has been linked to suicides, during the past year. The whole thing could have been made easier if I had been prescribed pot. I know this. I've done the research. I started researching it because of my Brain Trauma and the non-effectiveness of other drugs. What I learned was that it raises Melatonin levels 4,000% in two hours, and is the most effective way to do so (not to mention, the "side-effect"). I have a lot of very minor, but very disturbing physical problems (vision, perma-tinnitus, a pain in the foot and this thing called dementia), but I couldn't bring myself to tell the doctors, who saw me for pain. The State of Virginia agreed to send me back to college, in this state, so they sent me to a psychologist, who I kept up sessions with (for a few months). I've talked to him, and only him.

Mmmm, this Caesar salad is awesome, can't wait to get to my veal parmigiana sub.

lol, yeah, and this is presuming ron would even give up the database to you, only way for you to get anyones ip to even begin tracing would be to vind a vuln in vbulletin that allowed you to insert a script or upload a file, or you'd have to sepina ron to get the database which holds the ip's, you talk alot of shit for someone who cant spell cannabis correctly in other topics ;)

12 year old

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sit in the drug court of your jurisdiction. it's open to the public to make sure that the things that happen happen with your consent. BY IGNORING THIS PROBLEM YOU ARE GIVING CONSENT!

Read some the the drug conspiract stories that NORMAL investigates. People have spent decades and more in jail for their words alone regarding pot. Yup talk+pot= go to jail for 10 or more years.

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i dont understand what youre trying to say.. POT, am i going to jail? i got busted a while back they said i have to do some community service...... they havent called me back. whats with this concent business it really has me confused? "by ignoring.. 'this problem' you are giving consent" are you saying by smoking pot we are giving consent to go to jail for 10 years???

if they want child mollusters, why don't they go after NAMBLA??

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so u cant think of any?

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I can can't stopping of how many options this new tracing tech can be used.

There is a guy who may still use the boards (if allowed by the prison gaurds. But, I doubt it.) His name is Gilbert Scales.

Gilbert Scales was arrested in California for conspiracy to cultivate over 1000 marijuana plants. He was sentenced to 63 months in prison.

Of the five people arrested, Mr. Scales got the longest sentence even though he had no prior arrests, because the government said somebody had to be in charge, so they picked him as the manager/supervisor.

Correspondence dated 8/03:
"Since my arrest of May 2, 2001, I have had to take my son out of school because my arrest was a big news story. My wife has been shunned by 90% of her friends. We moved away and basically had to start life over." details...

and he got arrested soley based on the fact he posted on cannabis.com or did he even post here at all?? hmmm i wonder, and hahah i serioulsy just got done reading that same article from NORML and then i read this....dont copy and paste, thats violating copyright laws, u could be arrested. ahh :eek: haha

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Justin, maybe you could help us get in touch with some people.

I underwent a series of drugs (for pain), including Neurontyn, which has been linked to suicides, during the past year. The whole thing could have been made easier if I had been prescribed pot. I know this. I've done the research. I started researching it because of my Brain Trauma and the non-effectiveness of other drugs. What I learned was that it raises Melatonin levels 4,000% in two hours, and is the most effective way to do so (not to mention, the "side-effect"). I have a lot of very minor, but very disturbing physical problems (vision, perma-tinnitus, a pain in the foot and this thing called dementia), but I couldn't bring myself to tell the doctors, who saw me for pain. The State of Virginia agreed to send me back to college, in this state, so they sent me to a psychologist, who I kept up sessions with (for a few months). I've talked to him, and only him.

Mmmm, this Caesar salad is awesome, can't wait to get to my veal parmigiana sub.

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I know Neurotin. I took 48 of them each day. I am scheduled to have an implant in my spine for my current issues

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and he got arrested soley based on the fact he posted on cannabis.com or did he even post here at all?? hmmm i wonder, and hahah i serioulsy just got done reading that same article from NORML and then i read this....dont copy and paste, thats violating copyright laws, u could be arrested. ahh :eek: haha

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ha - luv it - your right

Oh, yeah, it's been a while. I told my doctor that I didn't like them, so he took me off them and said "there's nothing else (he) can do for me". I found another doctor and they still haven't made any progress, but it's only my foot.

You still didn't tell me about your coma???

It's a long story I saw someone posted myspace link. I think it's http://www.myspace.com/dolanj I wrote a few blogs if you want to put your self throuth it.

justindolan: You are preaching to the wrong choir. Stop wasting your time here yelling at stoners who AGREE WITH YOU and get out there to enact the change you claim to be in support of. Your posts read nothing but of conspiracy theorist nonsense that I'm not even interested in lining a bird cage with.

didnt u get shot?

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didnt u get shot?

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Yes in the gut.

so that picture on yahoo or watever was you. damn, ouch.

i assume u were on duty...what happened?

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justindolan: You are preaching to the wrong choir. Stop wasting your time here yelling at stoners who AGREE WITH YOU and get out there to enact the change you claim to be in support of. Your posts read nothing but of conspiracy theorist nonsense that I'm not even interested in lining a bird cage with.

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If you're doing something great. But, don't effing imply that the mases of other peolpe here are all standing by your side, They are not.

IF not the people here then who?
If not now when?

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so that picture on yahoo or watever was you. damn, ouch.

i assume u were on duty...what happened?

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i don't talk about it. there is a public record about it but i'm sure the file is missing or misfiled.

oh.

I appoligize for not being clearer. I have been trying to keep up w. a lot posts simultaniouly (sp) (sic).

Most of theplaces I know will put a warrant on the NCIC computer. Nothing happends until your name pops up in a check- Roadblock, job, pulled over, check by a cop. Then they hold you in jail untill you see a judge for a bond. If you w/i the area they will travel to pick you up.