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10-10-2005, 06:40 PM
STDzRus

A Higher Understanding

During my last smoke session I think I had a higher understanding of how things work.

I thought to myself..Why do scents register similar in the minds of most people? Why do sights register similar in the minds of most people.? The same thing with sounds and sensation.

Because Nature and Creation is the entirity of our knowledge. It is the most powerful one thing in this world. It effects the most people..therefore I am starting to Understand that Nature and Creation are the only Higher Power to any government, authority, or persons.

Wow. Does that sound familiar to any kind of religion?
10-10-2005, 07:33 PM
ladyM

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although sights may register similar in most peoples minds, people rarely see things the same.
10-10-2005, 08:06 PM
beachguy in thongs

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It sounds like an 'earthly' religion, I'm not sure exactly.

And, unfortunately, though Nature can whip our ass, we're killing it and cutting it down, and poisoning our atmosphere.
10-10-2005, 11:48 PM
ermitonto

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How can you be sure that scents and sights are the same for everybody? Maybe the color we call "green" looks totally different in your head than it does in mine. Maybe you see green things as a color that I would call red, and you see red things as the color I would call green.
10-10-2005, 11:52 PM
beachguy in thongs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ermitonto

How can you be sure that scents and sights are the same for everybody? Maybe the color we call "green" looks totally different in your head than it does in mine. Maybe you see green things as a color that I would call red, and you see red things as the color I would call green.

Man, I got this Red Bud, you should check out, it smells like turkey.
10-11-2005, 12:00 AM
ermitonto

A Higher Understanding

Well, it would explain why people prefer different foods, and why some people don't like the taste of weed.
10-11-2005, 05:08 AM
STDzRus

A Higher Understanding

I'm talking about people in general.

Most of us can see green as green and red as red.

Most of us know what sour milk and baking cookies smells like.

Most of us know what an owl sounds like and what a whore screaming and orgasming sound like.

Not necessarily "know" but relate it to the same characteristics.
10-11-2005, 11:21 PM
mrdevious

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Quote:

Originally Posted by STDzRus

During my last smoke session I think I had a higher understanding of how things work.

I thought to myself..Why do scents register similar in the minds of most people? Why do sights register similar in the minds of most people.? The same thing with sounds and sensation.

uh... because a species requires a stable and consistant genetic code to remain in existence. just my wacky theory, I dont' know what I was on.
10-12-2005, 12:35 AM
Ousted

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ermitonto

How can you be sure that scents and sights are the same for everybody? Maybe the color we call "green" looks totally different in your head than it does in mine. Maybe you see green things as a color that I would call red, and you see red things as the color I would call green.

That was my first deep thought I remember having. I was like 9 or 10 and I asked my friend if she ever wondered if colors and sounds are seen or heard differently. Like, I see something as green so I say "thats green." But someone else might see red, and hear me say "thats red" instead of "thats green", so they say "yeah, thats red" but I hear "yeah, thats green" and then we both are in agreement of the color, even though its different to both of us. She didnt really understand what I was talking about.

But anyway, I would bet my little theory is probably 100% not the case, but its fun to think about. :p
10-14-2005, 03:43 AM
Trichocereus Panza

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A better way to explain it is this:
You and I both see a color and call it green, but maybe I actually see red (i.e., what YOU would think of as red) and CALL it green, because I've always seen colors in reverse. There is no way to know whether we see colors the same, since we've been taught their names from birth.

Same goes for left and right or up and down:
Maybe I have always seen a reverse/mirror image of the world, totally backwards from the way you see it, but I still use the same directional words to describe it because I learned to use them from birth.

To get back to the topic, the "religion" that sounds most similar to is a kind of "nature mysticism."
For thousands of years, there have always been a number of people who realize that all we know about reality is just what's right in front of our eyes... and who could ask for more than the infinite gifts of the earth?
Instead of recognizing the authority of any particular religion which talks about things that can't be proven, these people find holiness in the here and now, in what is real and absolute right in front of our eyes, and learn to live in harmony with the natural rhythms of life.
It's also really similar to Taoism.
10-14-2005, 05:02 AM
Ganj

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Quote:

Originally Posted by STDzRus

During my last smoke session I think I had a higher understanding of how things work.

I thought to myself..Why do scents register similar in the minds of most people? Why do sights register similar in the minds of most people.? The same thing with sounds and sensation.

Because Nature and Creation is the entirity of our knowledge. It is the most powerful one thing in this world. It effects the most people..therefore I am starting to Understand that Nature and Creation are the only Higher Power to any government, authority, or persons.

Wow. Does that sound familiar to any kind of religion?

makes sense to me. it was created and became nature.
10-14-2005, 08:23 AM
dirtyhippy420

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ermitonto

How can you be sure that scents and sights are the same for everybody? Maybe the color we call "green" looks totally different in your head than it does in mine. Maybe you see green things as a color that I would call red, and you see red things as the color I would call green.

Thank you man, you have no idea how long I've been thinking about this! I don't know how many times I've tried to impart this point of view on others I thought would understand and just got blank stares or "no dude, red is red" or some other brush off. Now I know I'm not crazy, or maybe we both are :eek: ....
10-25-2005, 08:01 AM
Polymirize

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it seems it may actually be the case the some people perceive an inverted spectrum. ie the cones in their eyes responsible for triggering a perception of red in the brain actually creates a sensation of blue, and the blue cones create a perception of red. Has to do with the pigments in the cones being reversed...

So they perceive "red" differently, although they still understand it in context and if you asked them what color the stop sign was they'd say red of course...

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle!
10-25-2005, 08:46 AM
STDzRus

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I'm talking about people in general here people!
10-25-2005, 01:24 PM
acidtrip

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ermitonto

How can you be sure that scents and sights are the same for everybody? Maybe the color we call "green" looks totally different in your head than it does in mine. Maybe you see green things as a color that I would call red, and you see red things as the color I would call green.

Hey I've thought about this aswell, but have never really looked into it much, however I think it is possible that our brains distinguish colours differently to eachother, for example green to me might be grey to you, it seems normal to us because it's what we've always known.

I'm paritally colour blind, certain colours seem the same to me, but it's not that bad, an example, just earlier I bought some new shoes with Reebok written in blue, but under darker light it looks like dark green to me.
10-25-2005, 02:37 PM
beachguy in thongs

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If you have a 6,000-piece Crayola Crayons set, you'll see that the colors are named down to the most sensitive form of Turqoise. I'm not sure how the "eye" works, but you can't say something is green when it's blue.

If you're a witness to a robbery, you have to know what color they are wearing so the cops can find them. I really had something to say when I started this post, and usually, I just hit the back button when I've realized I had nothing to say, but this time I'm gonna stay.

I'm sorry if you're color blind, maybe you're not smoking enough green.

edit: or blue?
10-25-2005, 02:44 PM
STDzRus

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Do you identify a tree as a tree? Or do you identify it as a cloud?

Do you look up at the clouds and call them grass? Or do you look down at the grass and call it water?

Simple basic perceptions.

Not between colour blind people.
Not between people who want to be different and break the norm.
Not between two stoners who are stoned and want to be funny.

Between your average day Mr. and Mrs. Joe.
11-22-2005, 06:05 AM
opiuser

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtyhippy420

Thank you man, you have no idea how long I've been thinking about this! I don't know how many times I've tried to impart this point of view on others I thought would understand and just got blank stares or "no dude, red is red" or some other brush off. Now I know I'm not crazy, or maybe we both are :eek: ....

it has to be possible... some people arw white, and some are black... (just examples... nothing about race) some see all colors, some are color blind... some people are dumbasses and some are geniuses... some have blue eyes some have green... so why would it not be ppossible for us to see diff, we think diff.