Finally a sad day

I finally had a sad day. I was on a right wing EU defense oriented board because I wanted to ask why we were going to war with Iran. And they told me in the end because Iran is muslim, their government lies, they are not democratic and we want to trade with that oil. We wont trade with them until they change, so we have to do it for them. No matter what it takes. At the same time they admit they are liars, they cheat, and they would do an attack with nukes if needed, but drew the line at being blood cults. Seems they would not want anyone like them to have a button too.

So, I am devistated as I truly believe that is what is going to happen. These are the people controlling that end of the whipping stick. Bloody Brits too! I really just want a nice place to live where I can grow my weed. What is the damge here? They want to screw the whole place and attack ANOTHER nation.

I am going to smoke my brains out.

long live to Bush

Tell me about it...Life is a let down like that.

I was in Lebanon for my summer holiday and almost every friday there would be some form of explosion...mainly in the nighclub district...The lebanese are blaming the Syrians, the Syrians are blaming the Americans...No one really knows whats going on and why it is going on.

Going to war with a country just because it is muslim is completely out of order. I for one am a muslim and im not a terrorist, and neither do I agree with terrorism...But people seem to think all muslims are terrorists...I dont blame them though because of all the terrorist acts muslims have been said to have made....But look at Timothy McVeigh (spelling?) Does that mean that all Christians are terrorists because of what he did? And look at the guards from Abu Ghraib.....does that mean all guards and army members are fucks? No...It just means there are a minority out there in all the different cultures around the world that fuck everything up for the rest of us.

If everyone smoked i swear the world would be a far more happier and relaxed place...Fucking retards. :mad:

You should've spent more time with us, we would've made your day.

awwww :)

probably would've done...I been away for a while....3 months!!! Feels like a lifetime.

Wow, high Sara, I'm new here!

Your new here and you've already done 2,437 posts??

hehe anyways im going to bed....nighty night and hopefully talk 2 u guys soon.

Kisses and Hugs xxx

NIGHTY NIGHT (I was wondering when someone would finally notice)

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Originally Posted by KottonMouthSara

Tell me about it...Life is a let down like that.

I was in Lebanon for my summer holiday and almost every friday there would be some form of explosion...mainly in the nighclub district...The lebanese are blaming the Syrians, the Syrians are blaming the Americans...No one really knows whats going on and why it is going on.

Going to war with a country just because it is muslim is completely out of order. I for one am a muslim and im not a terrorist, and neither do I agree with terrorism...But people seem to think all muslims are terrorists...I dont blame them though because of all the terrorist acts muslims have been said to have made....But look at Timothy McVeigh (spelling?) Does that mean that all Christians are terrorists because of what he did? And look at the guards from Abu Ghraib.....does that mean all guards and army members are fucks? No...It just means there are a minority out there in all the different cultures around the world that fuck everything up for the rest of us.

If everyone smoked i swear the world would be a far more happier and relaxed place...Fucking retards. :mad:

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You are right on there, specially the smoke.

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Originally Posted by KottonMouthSara

Tell me about it...Life is a let down like that.

I was in Lebanon for my summer holiday and almost every friday there would be some form of explosion...mainly in the nighclub district...The lebanese are blaming the Syrians, the Syrians are blaming the Americans...No one really knows whats going on and why it is going on.

Going to war with a country just because it is muslim is completely out of order. I for one am a muslim and im not a terrorist, and neither do I agree with terrorism...But people seem to think all muslims are terrorists...I dont blame them though because of all the terrorist acts muslims have been said to have made....But look at Timothy McVeigh (spelling?) Does that mean that all Christians are terrorists because of what he did? And look at the guards from Abu Ghraib.....does that mean all guards and army members are f*cks? No...It just means there are a minority out there in all the different cultures around the world that f*ck everything up for the rest of us.

If everyone smoked i swear the world would be a far more happier and relaxed place...F*cking retards. :mad:

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Howdy Sarah,

Many folks think that I believe that all muslims are terrorists,but I don't,there are still a few--that ain't,I say 'few',because there are many muslims that are silent about the violent islamofascism going on. Does your imman or cleric,denounce violent jihadism..or does he cheer it on ?

The Koran,calls for the state of Darfur..do you support that ? And if so,do you support violent means to accomplish such,or just peaceful infilitration ? Do you support Shari'a Law or wahhabism ? I lived in Saudi for awhile,so I know what it's like to live under Sharia law and wahhabism,and it was miserable,even the locals escaped every week-end,to Jordan,to git away from the ever oppressive gaze of the 'holy' men.

Iran and Syria,represent a grave threat to the security of Israel,and the entire middle-east..either we stop them,or Israel will do it for us..and that would be disasterous,because Israel is willing to take everyone down with them,this time,if need be..no arab or arab country, will ever conqueor Israel..ever again. Israel,understood long ago,that the arab-muslim blood-thirst for Jews and infidels,will never be quenched..which is why they have the doomsday plan,called the Samson Option.

Have a good one ...

BTW: I'm a Christian..and my girlfriend,is Jewish.

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Originally Posted by Torog

BTW: I'm a Christian..and my girlfriend,is Jewish.

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I'm Catholic, I think my girl is Methodist.

Said Dave Attell:
"I was raised Catholic and molested Methodist."

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

I'm Catholic, I think my girl is Methodist.

Said Dave Attell:
"I was raised Catholic and molested Methodist."

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Howdy beachguy,

Well..you may be Catholic,but I see that you have no problems with using the Lord's name in vain.

I stated my gal's and I,religious affiliation,because this whole mess is starting to be a war about religion,partly because of the lack of more wide-spread condemnation by allegedly peaceful muslims,who desire democratic freedoms,rather than the oppression of islamofascism.

Have a good one ...

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Originally Posted by Torog

no problems with using the Lord's name in vain.

I stated my gal's and I,religious affiliation,because this whole mess is starting to be a war about religion,partly because of the lack of more wide-spread condemnation by allegedly peaceful muslims,who desire democratic freedoms,rather than the oppression of islamofascism.

Have a good one ...

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That was a good one... good opening joke (by you).

But do you think muslims are the only ones condemning others' views?

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

That was a good one... good opening joke (by you).

But do you think muslims are the only ones condemning others' views?

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Howdy beachguy,

Actually,I wasn't joking..I was objecting to yer signature. Life is tough enuff,without going around and pissing off God,by taking God's Name in vain.

As for muslims,the problem has been and continues to be,that they ain't condemning the violent,muslim jihadists..enough.

Have a good one ...

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy beachguy,

Actually,I wasn't joking..I was objecting to yer signature. Life is tough enuff,without going around and pissing off God,by taking God's Name in vain.

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Oh, I see what your getting at. God damn. God should damn ignorance. That's why I have it in there. Especially, following a sentence that wasn't known to be true when Pot was banned. We live our lives, today, under the guidelines set by legislation in a time when every one was scared of everything because Babe Ruth died. And the cocaine uprising.

To me, religion is pointless. I can talk to a stranger and learn the world, then find out he believes in God. I can talk to a stranger and learn the world, then find out his exact religion. If I can talk to a stranger and learn the world, I don't care if he's an atheist. Religion should be held as high as education, but only for disciplinary reasons.

I don't know much about secular religions, but I do remember learning the creation of society, and that, like the government, uses God as a safety net.

"Why am I better than you? Because God said so, hence you're a peon and I'm a lord. Why did God say so? Ask my mom."

Switch it around and you have today's world. God has ruled everything from the beginning of time, I don't see how my God is different from the one viewed by the victims of the holocaust.

God Damn. God does Damn. Fortunately, God damning to hell is an expansion of the phrase through our own minds.

I like you Torog.

If my signature offends anyone, let me know.

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Iran and Syria,represent a grave threat to the security of Israel,and the entire middle-east..either we stop them,or Israel will do it for us..and that would be disasterous,because Israel is willing to take everyone down with them,this time,if need be..no arab or arab country, will ever conqueor Israel..ever again. Israel,understood long ago,that the arab-muslim blood-thirst for Jews and infidels,will never be quenched..which is why they have the doomsday plan,called the Samson Option.

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Iran and Syria may cause a slight threat to Israel and only Israel. The reason why the entire arab world, ruling out a couple maybe, have such hatred towards israel (no offence to ur GF, just talking politics) is because of the way the Palestinians were chucked out of their country by the Jews when the British Govt declared an Israeli state for the Jews (1948)...Before that Israel was in fact known as Palestine...

Jews and arabs lived happily in the Palestine. But when a civil war broke out after the Israeli state was declared, many Palestinians fled to places such as Lebanon or Syria...Taking their house keys and documents that they owned their houses along with them. However, little did they know that they would never return or they would return and find that their street names have been changed, their houses have been knocked down etc. The ones who stayed had a worse time with the racial hatred towards arabs and especially towards the muslim palestinians. Jewish gangs were known around Palestine...known for massacaring 250 arabs, half of them women and children, in one month.

You may be thinking this was ages ago....but look at the village of Qana in south Lebanon...over a hundred civilians were massacred by the jews in the late 90s...Even this summer, Israeli fighter planes would circle around Lebanon trying to intimidate the tourists and the people. In fact, Israel is the reason why tourism has done down in Lebanon...every summer its the same thing....the odd small bombing here....a few fire shots there....to them, they dont care because America is right there behind them.

This is just a tiny fragment to what the 'humble' israeli people have done...but most of it goes unnoticed... :mad:

Anyways i've rambled on a bit.....but to check out the truth behind how Israel was actually formed, check out the book 'pity the nation' by Robert Fisk, its gotta be one of the best books ive read and its really highlighted loads of problems i never knew even existed.

ah this whole religious thing goes in cycles, christians were once far worse than todays islamic terrorists (witch burnings, spanish inquisition, the crusades etc..), history suggests that all this crap will eventually simmer down

I know I just sound like one of those stupid teenagers who are all anti american but I dont really like the US bush has pissed me off and I'm sick of going to war with every damn country in the world. I want to move to Canada. I remember seeing a nother topic about this awhile ago just makes me more mad.

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy beachguy,

Well..you may be Catholic,but I see that you have no problems with using the Lord's name in vain.


Have a good one ...

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Well, Torog, the worst is that a rational being can still have a lord, and even worse that a free human would inflict and decide others should do one damn thing about some "lord" anyone else has. Americans threw off the "lords" a long time ago. So ThreeSheets or someone lord'd it up, lord it down, and take it in vain or whatever. He is free. As you are. Leave the kids alone. As you pointed out, the battle of lords and cults has only screwed us forever. Time to wake up and find the lord inside instead of looking for someone/thing else. I know if you threw the shackles of the cults you would be stronger than you are now.

I hope your "lord" is not some blood cult that will strike down heathens? Those are the cults we have to keep out of the hood no?

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

I don't know much about secular religions, but I do remember learning the creation of society, and that, like the government, uses God as a safety net.

I like you Torog.

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You are great beachguy even in thongs.

I like it. But maybe an expansion. The Profits of Religion A Study of Supernaturalism as a Source of Income and a Shield to Privilege

A gift for you. I think you will like it. Perhaps something for Torog to read and his wife also. There is something for the Jews special in there. And Upton does not leave anyone free from the bootstrapping cults.

I just need freedom and liberty to know you can god damn do the hell what you want as long as you have not damaged anyone. Now torog, you are a big fella, and no one with these bits on a screen can cause you damage. What goes on in your being is your own responsibility.

So, leave the kids alone and
Have a nice day
We do like you, you can be a great guy.

Kotton Mouth, You have some point of view, it has holes, but presents something puzzled me for years. How a Jew can take property without payment. There is something in the handover of that area, Jordan (whom you carefully omitted) had all those people and tossed them out as they made a lot of trouble. Check your history and round it out a bit. Remember we are all fed propaganda and you can only believe from first hand.

Torog, we need you now. At least I do. Your right wing knowledge is very valuable to this question. So, angry as you may get to the heathen, lets smoke, sit back, and try and negotiate along.

Present Situation:
Massive US forces are present in Iraq and stationed in all ports in the Gulf as well as the secret (yeah!) bases in Turkey, Russia and Uzbekistan. The president of the US corporate government wants war with Iran, at the urging of the UK and the powers. Screws are being turned as the French and German built reactors in Iran have been stopped last March by the EU under the guise that they may make enriched U235 for bombs. The Iranians had to stop their nations plans and wait. In August they demanded to start since no one did anything but tell them to stop for months.

My information giving me that sad day is; The powers want the oil. They canâ??t buy the oil because they donâ??t like the people they have to give the gold to. So they want to toss out that nation, install their own people in it and begin to trade again. Like they did in Hawaii 100 years ago, and trying to do in Iraq these past 3 years. They think its a great idea, west gets oil, Iran people get democracy and fiat currency.

They understand they are as bad as the Iranians, but they have the bomb and the weapons to take them, so that is enough reason to do it. As usual, they feel they are the moral superiors being "democracies" and "Catholics". They understand they are hypocrites, but they have the power, so they will do whatever they please.

Mark the words; this came from one of the largest defense writers and people in the UK. I was floored. They threw me out for making them admit they were hypocrites. And, like you, they used the Catholics do not do the things Islam does. I almost choked. Where were the Cross of Saint George and the promise of honey in heaven from the Pope to call us to arms like 1000 years ago?

So, your goal, should you accept it, is to break the chains of history and slavery and try for something entirely different.

How do you allow a sovereign nation like Iran, faced with a powerful enemy, have his just defense?

So, did we meet at the Tekal Cafe once?

Wow, Thank you so much, Art.

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Originally Posted by KottonMouthSara

Iran and Syria may cause a slight threat to Israel and only Israel. The reason why the entire arab world, ruling out a couple maybe, have such hatred towards israel (no offence to ur GF, just talking politics) is because of the way the Palestinians were chucked out of their country by the Jews when the British Govt declared an Israeli state for the Jews (1948)...Before that Israel was in fact known as Palestine...

Jews and arabs lived happily in the Palestine. But when a civil war broke out after the Israeli state was declared, many Palestinians fled to places such as Lebanon or Syria...Taking their house keys and documents that they owned their houses along with them. However, little did they know that they would never return or they would return and find that their street names have been changed, their houses have been knocked down etc. The ones who stayed had a worse time with the racial hatred towards arabs and especially towards the muslim palestinians. Jewish gangs were known around Palestine...known for massacaring 250 arabs, half of them women and children, in one month.

You may be thinking this was ages ago....but look at the village of Qana in south Lebanon...over a hundred civilians were massacred by the jews in the late 90s...Even this summer, Israeli fighter planes would circle around Lebanon trying to intimidate the tourists and the people. In fact, Israel is the reason why tourism has done down in Lebanon...every summer its the same thing....the odd small bombing here....a few fire shots there....to them, they dont care because America is right there behind them.

This is just a tiny fragment to what the 'humble' israeli people have done...but most of it goes unnoticed... :mad:

Anyways i've rambled on a bit.....but to check out the truth behind how Israel was actually formed, check out the book 'pity the nation' by Robert Fisk, its gotta be one of the best books ive read and its really highlighted loads of problems i never knew even existed.

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Howdy Sarah,

With all due respect,maam..you are wrong about the inception of the Israeli State,and to prove it,I'm gonna post a document in the politics forum ,called the "
The Big Arab Lie-The political abuse of the refugee issue. ".

I urge you to read it,as well as anyone else who's believed the lies and propaganda of the arabs.

Have a good one ...

yeh my PC is messed up and its not opening that page...but i'll be sure to check it out later on....

The big arab lie huh? I guess everyone has different points of views about an enormity of things, mostly about politics or religion. Depending on what they have seen or heard as Art correctly pointed out above, people tend to be more biased after reading an article even.

'It is a tragedy of both our people. How can I explain in my poor English? I think the Arabs have the same rights as the jews and I think it is a tragedy of history that a people who are refugees make new refugees. I have nothing against the Arabs...They are the same as us. I don't know that we Jews did this tragedy - but it happened'

Shlomo Green, Jewish refugee from the Nazis, on learning
that his home in Israel was taken from a Palestinian
family in 1948.

Certainly Palestinian Arabs remember the Jewish population of the land was scarcely 10% of the total. There was always a Jewish presence there over the centuries, im not doubting that cuz Palestine for the Jews was also an ancient homeland...along with the Palestinians. However, Britain encouraged the growth of Zionism in Palestine in the early years of the WW1 cuz they wanted American Jews to ally their country in the war against Turkey.

I might not be making any sense on the screen, but in my head it was flowing beautifully so forgive me if im confusing anyone...but I will certainly check out that site as soon as I can be arsed to see whats up with this PC.

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Sarah,

With all due respect,maam..you are wrong about the inception of the Israeli State,and to prove it,I'm gonna post a document in the politics forum ,called the "
The Big Arab Lie-The political abuse of the refugee issue. ".

I urge you to read it,as well as anyone else who's believed the lies and propaganda of the arabs.

Have a good one ...

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No need to be so rude either... :mad:

Sara, that cotton mouth must getting to your brain, Torog said "With all due respect" and I think that it's safe to say he was trying to get his belief across a one-dimensional meduim without sounding like an asshole.

Or, maybe he wants to fight ya'?

haha maybe...I dunno...but u know how u get slightly para when ur smoking. Anyways....I guess everyone has a right to say what they want. But politics always rubs people up the wrong way if u get what I mean.

That's why I stick to talking Baseball.

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Originally Posted by KottonMouthSara

No need to be so rude either... :mad:

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Howdy Sarah,

I apologize if I offended you,I was being lazy and copied the title from the article and didn't realize it would come out in such big letters..I wasn't trying to shout at ya..I'm sorry. That's merely the title of an article,not a link to a website,I posted it in the politics forum,so you could easily read it without going to another site.

I will point out however,that yer biased towards the arabs obviously,as you seem to be portaying them as guilt-less of any crimes,when in fact-8 arab countries attacked Israel at it's inception..little did they realize-that God was on the side of His Chosen People..and that their attempt to slaughter every Jew..would fail. That 'dream' to slaughter every Jew,still remains..as well as the 'dream' to destroy the State of Israel. That 'dream' of the arab world,is what will ensure the fulfillment of Biblical prophesey..that being Armageddon.

Have a good one ...