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Which of the following research chemicals provide the most visuals and head trip? Basically, which one is the most effective and makes you trip the hardest:
2C-B
2C-C
2C-D
2C-E
4HO-DIPT
5MEO-AMT
5MEO-DMT (is this DMT, or a variant of it?)
First, what is the most intense of the first four (the #2 chemicals), then explain to me which is the most intense of all seven of them. Thanks.
I know the last one is probably more intense then most else on the list, only without alot of visuals. But I can't help you with your last question.
i just tried 5meo-amt last weekend. It was almost identical to shrooming. my stomach felt like shit the whole time and I vomited a bunch of times. coming down I got a headache. But while peaking "10 hours" I had lots of walls melting visuals. but overall I remembered why I stopped tripping 15 years ago. feels like shit.
5meo-dmt i hear doesnt have visuals really
I havent tried any of the others
but the best visuals I have ever seen ever is from salvia divinorum and I dont get that nasty tripped out feeling. just a little skin sensetivity
When I was tripping on 2C-E it was like the whole world turned fake. I knew what I was doing in a literal aspect but mentally I lost all sense of 'the future'. For instance I would think "shit I have to work today" but I seriously doubted it would happen. There was a visual component but it wasn't as pronounced as say mushrooms. Some minor visuals like 'fire flies', trials and blurred vision were noted. When I closed my eyes I felt like I was in another world entirely.
2c-e is the most intense and most visual of the first 4,and by a fairly wide margin. 5meo-amt is very , very visual, but the nausea and headache are absolutely intolerable, IMO. 5meo-dmt is not the same as dmt, less visual but perhaps 4 times as strong, on an equal dose. Not very visual, but so intense at breakthrough doses that visuals are something that are a part of a world you are no longer part of. 4oh-dipt is similar to shrooms with few visuals, 4oh-mipt (not on your list) I dought I could tell from shrooms.
Are any of these chemicals legal? :confused: Its not like i give a fuck about their legal status..itd just be sweet if i could order some online :D
They are all illegal, I think.
And you can order them online. So long as you acknowledge that you are at the very least 21 years of age with a fully equipped laboratory and are experienced in dealing with such hazardous materials. Also, these chemicals are not intended for animal or cosmetic applications nor are they to be used in the production of illicit drugs. Above all the toxicology of these substances remains unknown, they are not for intended for ingestion.
I was always under the impression that 2C-I was the most intense of the four. Do you have a link saying 2C-E is the most intense?Quote:
Originally Posted by andruejaysin
Nullific, do you know which of the first four chemicals listed is the most intense?
Also, how are the effects of 2C-I and 2C-E different?
Just look this stuff up on wikipedia or erowid read and follow the links. yes you can buy most of these. some plants will help too.
The first thing I always do is go to www.erowid.org and read up on a certain chemical.
But it doesn't compare the chemicals.
I'll try Wikipedia.
Oh, no, not even close. I is the most fun, IMO, but the most intense? No way. A link? I don't know, erowid, or bluelight, or try them yourself. As to how they are different, they are truthfully more similar than different, both are sort of a cross between acid and X (that is a gross oversimplification, but explain colors to a blind man..) I is X with visuals, E is acid with euphoria, get both, get them all, while you still can. A year from now they'll be history, but the good Dr Shulgin invented many, many more. My advice? Try them all, I plan to!Quote:
Originally Posted by haha
get yourself some AMT, its pretty legal, but im not too sure if u can buy it at the corner store... my friend sells it tho, i havent tried it, but apparently it's like E + acid, 'cept theres no E and no acid in it
AMT is schedule 1, if you mean 5meo-amt, yes, acid+X+projectile vomiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaze420