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it might be the wrong room but who cares, its about god, i want to know who believes in god and jesus, i personally do with all my heart, and i hope others are that fortunate, but for all of you who are not, i hope you see the light and turn your beliefs around, i hope to see some feedback.
Great thread starter. We need some more intelligent discussion .
I believe in a source of energy that we all originate from, are connected to and return to. I dont know what to call it but I believe deeply that it is there. I have seen its power in my life and I know it to be real.
I don't believe in "God" or "Jesus", they're just stories that have been taken out of proportion through the years.
I'm fortunate enough not to base my life on a fairy-tale.
well im not saying you right but im not saying your worng
but, i mean everything thats been happening, in my openyen is signs fromm god that jesus is comming soon
You know, people have been saying Jesus is coming for many many years, it's not happening. It's impossible for a person that may have lived 2000yrs ago to come back to life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melton420
Your Jesus prophet is no different from any other prophet, they're just wasters with too much time on their hands.
I can assure you, no dead person is coming back from his grave, not in your life time, not in any life time.
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Originally Posted by FunkyMonkey
I'm with this man. I'm no believer of God or a greater being, but there just gotta be something not a someone. I believe we make our own heaven and hell.
Peace
Buddy
I'm agnostic. I don't know maybe something is out there. The bible has just too many holes to make it anything I would want to put my 'faith' into. I do see quite a few supposedly Christians around my parts talking the talk, but that's about all. I don't think it works the way those people think. Parties, fights, and whatnot all week but then redeem your sins on Sunday so it cleans the slate for next week. Besides that I suppose you can look at it in the more logical sense like Warlock does. However, I think the 10 commandments are something everyone should know.
Damnit, dozed off during the edit. The answer was no to beleiving in the 'God' you speak of, or any other god for that matter.
Why believe in what could be acually a false religion!i mean c'mon not being rude or anything but is their an actual possibility that some person jst sat down and wrote an elaborate story which somehow turned into the bible???
I myself am no believer in god or jesus...seems nice and all people devoting their life into what they think is right while others think wrong of it. but why like go to church EVERY sunday?! i found this extremely boring from a child as what i can recall and im sure everyone else did when there were only lil. but my parents told me i didnt have to like the religion and wouldnt force me to if i didnt want to, so i didnt! Ae i dont know the 10 commandments...all i know is something to do about adultery and thats it!
I'm no believer in a "god" , organised religion is just used to rape the poor of freedom. I also believe those who worship a god are weak and scared thus spend their time worshiping an imaginary idol to calm their fears. THeir is likely to be some sort of energy that connects all living organisms, but just how this works I do not no, might find out abit more when I pop my clogs.:)>
yes i believe in God
but just in case God isnt at the gates of Heaven when i get there, i also belive in Allah, Buddah and
Apollo -god of medicine, prophecy, archery
Ares -god of war
Artemis - goddess of the hunt
Asclepius -god of medicine
Athena -goddess of wisdom and warfare
Aphrodite -goddess of love
Celesta -goddess of death
Cronus -god of the sky, Ruler of Titans
Demeter -goddess of grian
Dionysus -god of wine and vegetation
Discord -goddess of retribution
Eos -goddess of dawn
Eros -god of love
Hebe -goddess of youth
Hades -god of the underworld
Helios -god of the sun
Hephaestus -god of fire, and metalwork
Hera -goddess of marrige and childbirth, Queen of gods
Hermes -messenger of the gods
Hestia -virgin goddess
Hypnos -god of sleep
Iris -goddess of the rainbow
Kal -another god of war (but he's no Ares)
Lachrymore -god of despair
Mnemosyne -goddess of memory
Morpheus -god of dreams
Pan -god of shepards, and flocks
Poseidon -god of the sea
Rhea -wife of Cronus, Mother goddess
Selene -goddess of the moon
Uranus -god of the sky, father of the Titans
Zeus -king of all gods
I do not believe in the Christain God or "Jesus". I believe in a source of energy that created the Universe. If it is intelligent, however, I do not know.
yes , i KNOW that god exists...............................don't ask.
1 long story involving the atlanta braves.
but yes , i believe.........great song by the way , "i believe" by joe satraina , cant spell his name right now.
Conversely, I hope you'll be the one to see the light. Man created God, not the other way around. I don't need God anymore, because I have Reason. I don't believe in the imperfection of humanity (sins and all that) but I believe in the perfection. Why are humans so bad that we need to prove to God that we're worthy of going to heaven when Jesus said we'd all go anyway? Why are all our most profound impulses and instincts often considered sins? What are you really afraid of to have to believe in something as far-fetched as God?Quote:
Originally Posted by Melton420
So true about the hypocrisy of many Christians... Do what you want all week, then a quick confession/communion and you're a-ok with the man upstairs! Sounds ridiculous? It is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ae...
In Christianity, as in life there are many that have it screwed up. I am a Christian, yes I believe, but my number 1 rule is "Do Not Judge Others". I may not agree with you, I may not like you but, it is not for me to judge you. One thing we have is the the right to choose. I chose my way and it works for me. I am far from perfect and I don't expect any other person to be perfect either. I do expect and deserve the same respect I give. All I want for all of you out there is happiness and the best life has to offer you. As for an afterlife, what you believe is your decision. ;)
Nope. No God for me. Just gimme a bag of weed, some munchies and some porn and i'm all set.
I was saved. By a black guy, or so I was told. I was screwed by inexperienced police work. I don't give a shit. If you don't believe in Jesus, you can't believe in Hitler, because he's dead, too. Jesus was like Jimi Hendrix, way ahead of his time. God, because you all know you have one, wants to do it right, this time. Weed smokers who say they don't believe in God are liars because they are ingesting the soul of another lifeform. God may be POT. And he's sacrificing himself, just like Jesus, when governments (under God) burn him.
"If you don't believe in Jesus, you can't believe in Hitler, because he's dead, too."
That makes no sense. There is documented and psychical proof that Hitler existed. There is absolutely no question as to whether he existed or not. There is no such proof of Jesus, and definately no such certainty of his existence.
"Weed smokers who say they don't believe in God are liars because they ingesting the soul of another lifeform."
That makes no sense either. In fact, it fails to make even the slightest possible scrap of sense whatsoever. It actually fails to make any sense so much that I feel it probably makes perfect sense and i'm just missing the point.
I don't even know where to start, so i'm not going to. And I could, if I wanted to, which I don't.
i agree .....i just call it energy....it never dies....its just converted into another form of energy.....i figure we go back to being carbon or somthing....isnt everything made out of carbon??Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkyMonkey
but yeah i dont have very much faith...
thats what faith is....believing in somthing you cant prove....most religion asks you to have faith....for reasons i dont know....mayve because there is NO proof....0% proof that god exists....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ze w33d Farm3r
I lost my belief in God and then, amazingly, rediscovered Him. God sends people to do his work. God may be a huge brain, for all I know, but I thought I saw him at the bank, with long, white hair.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
i hate talking about god! nobody ever gets anywhere its always just a big fucking argument! its just a matter of opinion and belief. if you do, you do. if you dont, you dont!
tell you what melton420, if you remove your gross avatar so I don't have to look at it anymore, I'll consider converting.
ok, was going to change it soon ne way
dITTOQuote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
The God of food created 'Munchies'. (don't know if you have them where you're at, but it's a particular brand)
I??m a Christian. I believe in God?and I believe in Jesus Christ. I also believe were not getting the whole story when it comes to Christianity but I believe its basic principals to be correct.
The hardest part of any religion or even non-religion is ??faith?.
Definitive proof of God and Jesus CAN NOT exist because if it did ??faith? would be unnecessary.
If you believe in God you half to have faith. If you believe in no God you half to have faith that it is true. Because even though as Christians can never prove ourselves true, no one can prove us to be definitively false.
god is santa for adults
I believe, however, that the whole concept of "faith" was developed to encourage a mindset of unquestioning, and avoidance of critical thinking, due to theistic religions innability to explain how this makes sense. I mean after all, if faith weren't invented, people would be saying "that's a pretty big and outrageous claim, can you back it up?". A big reason I lack faith in the bible is because it was written 600 years after the events of jesus, by a priest interpreting story's spread through word of mouth. and if anybody's played that game where you say a sentence and send it through a long line of people, it always comes out all garbled at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by likemclever
Faith doesn't mean anything. It just means you believe something that there is no viable reason to believe. It has no place an a debate such as this.
damn! i am sober
Are you saying that there is no room for the word faith in a religious discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
?????
You are clearly not understanding faith....Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdevious
you are asking for proof in order to have faith....
Buy definition that??s not how faith works.
Like I said I don't think we are getting the whole story but I believe the books basics principles to be true.
And I believe that the book has been divinely inspired.
No, that's not precisely what i'm saying. When discussing if one believes in God then yes, faith will play a big part in the discussion. But when discussing whether or not God actually exists, I don't think faith has anything to do with it. Faith does not prove anything, and it never will. That is the nature of faith. It should not even be mentioned and should never be used as an argument in itself.
If you choose to believe that there is no GodQuote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Than that choice is ultimately grounded in faith itself.
I'm telling you, God is pot...spelled backwards, upside down, and, sort of, illiterate.
I dont believe at all........
I cant believe in a book that was created thousands of years ago.I mean if someone went around now sayin that they were jesus or that jesus wanted them to write a bible they would get tossed in the loony bin.
but hey opinions are like a**holes..........
lol beachguy
likemclever, I don't see it as faith. It's a conclusion drawn from the available evidence, or in this case, lack of evidence.
Anybody could claim that anything exists; if I were to argue it would not be up to me to prove that it doesn't exist, it would be up to the person making the claim to prove that it does. Until that happens it is assumed that said thing does not exist, and to argue would be, well, stupid and completely illogical.
God to me, is not some dude up in Heaven looking down and saying things like... "That man is a sinner! I want his balls chopped off, LOL!" Naw, I think God is... everything. I am God and the world around me is God. I'm more of a believer in Mother Nature, then in a certain make-believe, long haired jew. Yeah, Jesus... Don't believe he's coming back. But I'm not sure if he really existed... if he did then props to him, cause he had some pretty interesting ideas.