http://www.thenausea.com/elements/th...gotten/iah.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3748054.stm
I've never heard anything so sad in my life.
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http://www.thenausea.com/elements/th...gotten/iah.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3748054.stm
I've never heard anything so sad in my life.
Also here's a list of 129 Palestinians murdered by Isreali troops. Roughly half of them are children.
http://www.thenausea.com/thenot.html
Fuck, just read some of those, look at the pictures (Thanks to Zero Revolt for the link to this site). How can the US be allies with a country that permits this kind of thing?
Horrendous!
October 2004!
Dude you really shouldn't take sides in the Israel vs. Palestine conflict. Nobody should unless they have a direct connection to either side (I do). Yes people in Palestine died at the hands of the Israeli army, but many of them were attacking the army at the time. At the same time of course, many were not, but that's war. Many, and I mean MANY Israelis have died at the hands of Palestinean terririst bombs, which usually come as a huge surprise. Believe me it's worse getting killed while riding the bus on the way to work without any idea that something is going to happen than to be killed while roaming the streets of of a city that's being occupied by the millitary. Believe me it's much easier knowing that the enemy is in fact there and you're not going to be hurt unless you're an idiot and you enter into the combat zone, which many palestineans do. Also, the Israeli Army absolutely does not want to harm innocent civilians. The palestinean terrotists want to do just that. Just somthing to think about.
Do you know that a few years ago a little 4 year old Israeli girl was killed at her own home because an armed terrorist broke into the house and shot her dead? Don't bullshit anyone Ghost, the Israelis are not the only bad guys here.
those jews are stupid
takin all the place just coz its supposed to be their territory, killing ppl and all
your a fucking dickhead piece of shit. would you rather the U.S. be allies with the PLO who sanction suicide bombings of innocent people in restaurants, stores, and buses? The army has to enforce the law, and these people are intentionally getting in the way. I can't believe you are trying to pull this shit you son of a bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
yea its the jews fault. your an asshole too. go do some history homework about israel. do you even realize that the jews just moved there own people forcefully out of territory where they rightfully lived to please palestinians. despite your position on this, one has to agree that this was a racist piece of shit comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by mellow mood
Fuck you dude. You clearly have no grasp of the situation. How can you people be blaming the Israeli's like the palestineans are so innocent? Israel's intention is NOT to claim land that has already been granted by them to the Palestineans. They're simply occupying it in order to try and avoid insurgents from entering their own country WHICH IS JUST A FEW MILES AWAY, NOT AN OCEAN AND AN ENTIRE DAMN CONTINENT AWAY LIKE IN AMERICAS RIDICULOUS WAR. The Palestineans are the scum of the arab world in case you didn't know that. Why are they the only arab population without their own country? Because other arabs HATE them. That's kind of unlrelated though, I guess. The point is the Palestinean want more and more land which belongs to Israel. Us Jews have one tiny piece of land in this whole damn globe while those arabs have over 10 different countries, yet they want to take our land from us. And it sure doesn't help that wer'e literally surrounded by these arab countries. Give me a break man, don't say shit if you don't understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by mellow mood
I'm sorry but this ain't your ordinary liberal vs. conservative argument. You may have the understanding that there's no place for your troops in Iraq, but this situation is far different. Israel has given an arm and a leg to try to satisfy the demands of the Palestinians. Of course they still want more, and when we have nothing left to give we're no good right?
All you out there who belive in this war should look at all those pics and videos. If you support the war than you support the violence. So I don't wanna hear any of you fucking war supporters out there say I support the war but I won't look at those images because it makes me sick. If you do that than your obviously a fucking hippocrit.
Here I'm not done have some more carnage to feast your eyes on.
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/war/iraq/index.html
If your a suppoter of this war then you can sit your ass down and see what your beliefs are doing to our american people overseas. BOTTOM FUCKING LINE. :mad:
Fuck you Mr. President. I guess what they say is true..... Like father like son. :rolleyes:
Who the fuck supports any war? I sure don't. Still, I know right from wrong.
And by the way leave ghosttoker the fuck alone will ya??
if jews are so stupid........
u look at our nations prisons and u see whites, blacks, indians, christians, catholics and muslims. one thing u dont see are jewish people.
He started the argument and he sould've known damn well that the had no place making it if he didn't understand the situation. You can't just look at a few pictures of dead bodies and make a conclusion that Jews = bad. It just doesn't work that way.Quote:
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really. you said it. some people are idiots.Quote:
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BTW, it aint Bush torturing our soldiers, its the insurgents in Iraq. And dont claim that those are Iraquis trying to protect themselves cuz its not. They are the same people whol bomb Iraqi govt buildings and kill Iraqi army men too, and the same people that the IRAQI govt is trying to get rid of as well.
Every fucking time Israelis enter a Palestinian town, and blow the fuck out of everyone living there it is America who is paying for the weapons used, the tanks they travel in. Every time they use bulldozers to destroy Arab homes it's America paying for those bulldozers. America is also paying for the Israeli settlements that it says it disapproves of. YOUR money is being used to kill, no to MURDER people that you don't know, because of a situation that many of you know nothing about. Nearly $3trillion has gone to Israel in aid and yes, in weapons.
It always comes down to religion, doesn't it? Fundie Christians are the biggest voters in the US, hence nobody ever gets elected who doesn't support Israel.
Doesn't it say in the bible that in order for the Second Coming of Christ to happen the Jews have to return to Jerusalem (which has already happened) and then during Armageddon Satan will declare war on Jerusalem. All the Jews left over will supposedly convert to Christianity. If this doesn't happen then there'll be no Second Coming. So you support the Jews and Israel.
That's the only fucking reason your leaders support Israel. And you guys only do because your leaders do, like the bunch of sheep that you are. Why don't you just stay out of it for once? Or is that impossible for you, since it's your duty to blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Sorry, i'm getting pissed off. A bunch of Americans are telling me to stay out of a debate that I know nothing about.... hahaha
You're such a dick man. You're telling us that we're just saying what our government tells us while you're just some idiot who thought way too much about something that he saw on CNN. I'm not American and I'm not Christian and I sure don't listen to any governments. Who gives a shit what the bible says? Half of it is a buch of crap, anybody in touch with reality knows that. Your stupid goevernment does not fund the Israeli army. Your government does not pay for Israeli settlments. Your governmet shares advanced technology that it has spent billions of your own tax dollars to develop. That's right they give it to the Israeli army instead of selling it to them, because that would cost the Israeli's billions of dollars that they don't have.
Israel is surrounded by Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and the state of palestine and the Gaza Strip within its own confines. If Israel did not have this technology they'd be prone to an attack by any of them. I suggest you think before you write any of this kind of stuff next time.
Israel has a peace treaty with both Jordan and Egypt. So I suggest YOU think before you write any of "this kind of stuff" next time. Or maybe do some research.
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Look you hypocritical idiots you cant support killing of the innocents in one place and then condone it in another, because by that logic I could kill you friends family members and everyone YOu care about and then nothing would happen to me, then if you tried to take revenge by killing my family or friends you'd be arrested and sentanced to death.
So stop making yourself look like idiots.
"You're telling us that we're just saying what our government tells us while you're just some idiot who thought way too much about something that he saw on CNN."
Sorry mate, don't watch CNN. I dunno where you got that idea from.
I don't if you're getting your idea pulled out of your ass or you're just dellusional, but I don't condone the innocent killings of anybody. And, so what if Egypt and Jordan have a peace treaty with Israel? You don't know anything about that. Half or more of each of these respective countrie's populace would have every single Israeli killed in an instant if they could.
Ghostoker, quit trying to play hero. There's time when it workd and there's times it doesn't. Quite frankly you cannot take sides on this arguments and you're sure as hell not qualified to.
For everyone elese supporting his opinion, stop being such dirty sheep and supporting what this guy says. Just because he's a postwhore on this board and says something it doesn'tm ean you have to agree with him. It's not going to make your life any better.
Surely you agree theres a difference between protecting from terrorist attacks and killing children, and other innocents. If both sides committ attrocities it still makes them wrong.
to sad to read again, but remember this ...jesus is comming in our lifetime, get ready ... pray .... love
LOL, what the fuck, man? You're telling ME to not take sides, when YOU are doing exactly that? And IF YOU HAD READ MY FUCKING POSTS PROPERLY you'd see that i'm pissed off at PEOPLE WHO TAKE SIDES in this debate and are vicariously supporting the killing of these people when they know pretty much fuck all about the situation. Anyway, I'm done with you. Peace.Quote:
Originally Posted by IntrepidS
Yea, before I get done lecturing your retard ass I'll say one more thing: You started this thread taking the offensive against Israel and the Israeli army. As an Israeli myself not only was I offended by your comments, but I was also offended at your misrepresentation of the Israeli government & co. Not only were you uninformed in your arguments, but you were most definitly taking sides. Didn't you say you hated people who took sides? Yes I'm defending the Israeli's because you're an idiot who smokes way too much pot and doesn't know what he's talking about. I said it beofre and I'll say it again: you stumbled upon a link and made your conclusion way too fast. There's plenty I can say to the defense of the Palestinians but those comments are not needed in this thread.
So stop thiking you're so smart, stop thinking you know politics. You don't. Grow up, and don't make anymore uninformed posts like this that are weither going to piss people off or give people the wrong opinion of something else. You're entitled to your own opinion, but when it amounts to a pile of trash don't come bringing it here. That is all.
I'm aware of that, and the killing of innocent civillians is one of the things I'd wish the Israeli army would stop, because that is really not what they're about. But still, they don't kill those children on purpose. The Palestinian terrorists kill Israeli children on purpose. When a soldier kills a child in Palestine, they immediately regret it. When a terrorist kills a child in Israel, he celebrates the occasion. I really don't need to say any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirty raider
lol Dude, you don't know me at all. Who the fuck do you think you are, telling me what to do? Hahaha.. fuck off
Don't you get it? I would be pissed off at any nation, race, person, country, animal, vegetable or mineral that commited these kinds of acts. However, in this instance there was only one group of people involved and that's who I was pissed off at. Don't give me that "you don't know anything about this so you can't comment" bullshit. A little girl was shot and injured, then shot twice in the head, then had 70 or so more bullets emptied in to her dead body, and you're saying I DON'T HAVE THE FUCKING RIGHT TO BE MAD? Fuck you, man. Seriously. Fuck you. I would be mad no matter who did this.
Oh and you can't win an argument by saying "I know more about the subject than you so i'm right". It just makes you look stupid, and I already think you're pretty stupid as it is.
That's fucking bullshit and you know it. Read that fucking article. There are documented incidents of Israeli soldiers killing or maiming arab children out of boredom or just for fun. Don't try and act like one side is innocent when both are equally as guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by IntrepidS
Now who's taking sides, you fuck?
Oh, and I smoke too much pot? Dude, that's probably the stupidest thing you can possibly say on a CANNABIS website.
Who the fuck is telling you what to do? Dude get off your pathetic little power trip. Assclown.
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