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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being Brainwashed"
Mentality is "like that of the brown shirts that followed Hitler"
Steve Watson/Alex Jones | September 6 2005
Paul Craig Roberts has held a number of academic appointments and has contributed to numerous scholarly publications. He served as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Regan administration.
Roberts followed up his commentary Impeach Bush Now, Before More Die with an interview on The Alex Jones show on Monday 5th September 2005. The former Assistant Secretary had noted of the New Orleans disaster "If terrorists had achieved this result, it would rank as the greatest terrorist success in history." and went on to spell out how the disaster was left to happen. He succeeded these comments on Monday by laying out the facts again and asserting that the Federal government has been criminally negligent and should be held up to accountability.
Click here to listen to the full interview
Mr Roberts believed that such comments would bring him much criticism from so called Patriots (the flag waving kind), yet he was surprised at the amount of people who agreed and even informed him that it was far worse then what he'd gone on record with.
Roberts reviewed the way in which the federal government had slashed funding for flood prevention schemes and pumped everything into the war in Iraq and the war on Terror. He also went on to admit that the military was turning on the people, treating them as subjects, overturning the Posse Comitatus Act.
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Roberts agreed that FEMA has deliberately withheld aid, and cut emergency communication lines, and automatically made the crisis look worse in order to empower the image of a police state emerging to "save the day". He even insinuated that the shoot to kill policy was part of the overall operation in order get an awful precedence set to aid the military industrial complex takeover of America.
"The power of the Federal Government is now greater than at any time, it'll never go back and the Posse Comitatus Act has been eroding ever since it was passed in 1878..." Roberts asserted.
Roberts further commented "There is no excuse for this, we have never had in our history the federal government take a week to respond to a disaster...this is the first time ever that the help was not mobilized in advance. The proper procedure is that everything is mobilized and ready to go"
Mr Roberts commented that the American people are being "brainwashed" and no longer believe what the founding fathers said over and over, that your worst enemy is always your own government and never confuse Patriotism with support for the government. He asserted that the mentality is "like that of the brown shirts that followed Hitler" and that the government is deadly dangerous, "you can't let the military take over policing".
On the question of where this is all leading and what the government is gearing up for, Mr Roberts suggested that "It does look like there is a push coming from inside the bowels of the police authorities and it seems to be independent of whoever the President is or who or whatever party is in office. It just gets worse and it's hard to say that it's Bush doing it, he may not even know what's going on... it's enough for us to say that New Orleans demonstrated massive federal incompetence, if it were laid on private people would be tantamount to criminal negligence... some kind of accountability has to be exercised"
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The private corporations own and run everything and are turning America into a third world police state, when questioned as to how we can stop this Mr Roberts stated:
"The longer it goes on it will be harder and harder to stop...It depends on how much resistance or what kind of resistance they meet, but I think one thing we can do is demand accountability for this failure, do not buy the Karl Rove lie that this was a failure of State and Local Government"
Roberts urged listeners to look at the Patriot Act, which suspends Habeas Corpus, where they can now suspend you indefinitely, a massive erosion of civil liberties. He was quick to point out though that we should not assign the government omnipotence, we can make people aware of the situation and try to explain illogical actions that have no reasonable explanation.
Roberts read out an email from an emergency management official who said that the feds are involved in everything they do, everything has to be approved by the feds. FEMA sets the table, Mr Roberts suggested, every major agency in New Orleans has been federalized, the State and Local officials have no authority.
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"They might screw up occasionally but why is it that NOTHING that was supposed to be done was done?" Roberts questioned.
"The whole problem is...failure, massive unacceptable failure, criminal negligence... it has caused the US it's largest and most strategic international Port through which 25% of all our oil and gas comes... look at the price of gasoline, this is a tremendous impact... I don't see how a recession can be avoided... We have lost our most influential port through what appears to be INTENTIONAL incompetence, it's very hard to understand"
Roberts went on to stress that this event is WORSE than 9/11 because it was announced days ahead of the event and contingency plans were intentionally ignored. The officials on the scene have said there was a complete stand down of the government and intentional incompetence. Furthermore they did nothing ON PURPOSE in order to provoke the resulting chaos and anarchy so they could say "look how out of control everything is - we have to have limits on freedom and troops on the streets."
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
I know a few people on this board that r brainwash, should i name names
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
not necessary...the coming display of cognitive dissonance i expect from that post will out them.
i however think it takes precedence over everything else...i think it's very very very important...
but wait, it can never happen here...i can just repeat that over and over.
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by eg420ne
I know a few people on this board that r brainwash, should i name names
Oh yes, who, who, who........
I remember you!!! YOU were that lil' bitch that always ran to the teacher!!! :D
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by pisshead
not necessary...the coming display of cognitive dissonance i expect from that post will out them.
i however think it takes precedence over everything else...i think it's very very very important...
but wait, it can never happen here...i can just repeat that over and over.
You need to make up your mind! Do you or don't you want the government to respond in these times of need? And use your head...pisshead....you ain't going to get any government worker down into a disaster area if you aren't going to let the authorities take the bangers and riff raff off the street to create a safe enviroment!!
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
can i say psycho4bud boy is a gov't bitch... pisshead ur right that will come out, they cant handle the truth.......LOL thats just 2 funny
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
double plus good...you gain rights by giving them up.
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by eg420ne
can i say psycho4bud boy is a gov't bitch... pisshead ur right that will come out, they cant handle the truth.......LOL thats just 2 funny
You can say that on a forum! :D
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by pisshead
double plus good...you gain rights by giving them up.
ONCE AGAIN:
You need to make up your mind! Do you or don't you want the government to respond in these times of need? And use your head...pisshead....you ain't going to get any government worker down into a disaster area if you aren't going to let the authorities take the bangers and riff raff off the street to create a safe enviroment!!
NOW, oh wise pisshead....how would you handle that situation?
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by eg420ne
can i say psycho4bud boy is a gov't bitch... pisshead ur right that will come out, they cant handle the truth.......LOL thats just 2 funny
i know...do i heed the warnings of the founders of this country about government and its nature, when i see the same tyranny today?
or maybe i should listen to the almighty psycho4bud...who tells me to shutup, the government cares, and to submit and ignore...
oh wait, that's right, alex jones invented the idea of the founders of the country...he once posted some stuff they wrote on his website.
not a hard choice.
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by pisshead
i know...do i heed the warnings of the founders of this country about government and its nature, when i see the same tyranny today?
or maybe i should listen to the almighty psycho4bud...who tells me to shutup, the government cares, and to submit and ignore...
not a hard choice.
PISSHEAD...let me make this easy even for you!
HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE THE SITUATION?
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
i would take out the military completely, it would be strictly a humanitarian effort, this isn't a war...and they have no business being there.
disarming everyone...fuck no...sorry, ain't going to happen, i want people to have guns, i know that means that not everyone is going to go around killing people...the criminals will still have guns...you bring in police, state police, police from surrounding states possibly...
don't worry though, it will never happen, you'll get your neo-con dream...and you have 2 choices to vote for too, the democrats and republicans are going to give the same thing...
i've read the executive orders on fema...and i don't like the direction and powers they're getting, i've read the executive orders to federalize the entire country...regardless of who's doing what...this disaster is being used as an excuse to do that, which is what you are not capable of understanding...i could go into too many issues here...and you ignored most of what paul craig roberts had to say, especially from the audio interview...so why do i even bother...?
i've worked 10 hours today and am tired, i hope this will suffice. i'll consider paul craig roberts words a lot more than yours though.
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
You need to make up your mind! Do you or don't you want the government to respond in these times of need? And use your head...pisshead....you ain't going to get any government worker down into a disaster area if you aren't going to let the authorities take the bangers and riff raff off the street to create a safe enviroment!!
Wait a minute.
I thought the response was delayed because of beaurocracy - by the way, wasnt the Patriot Act and creating DHS supposed to fix that? That's what W is saying now.
Before that it was because help couldn't get to the stranded people even though hundreds of reporters and Harry Connick, Jr. found a way. But before that it was because they didn't know where the people were even though the refugees were all over TV. And before that it was because the states hadn't formally requested help.
So now it's because of gangbangers?
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by pisshead
i've worked 10 hours today and am tired, i hope this will suffice. i'll consider paul craig roberts words a lot more than yours though.
AWWWWW...now you hurt my feelings!!!
So you would just exchange the federal assistance from the National Guard and shit to state police. Good job.
You know, them boys carry guns also and don't take to kindly to gang bangers shooting at them either. Hey, that would give ya something else to bitch about!!! :D
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
if you're aching to get me to lust after shooting and killing people because they're looting, and to praise forced evacuations in areas that have minimum damage...it's not going to happen. if you desperately want to me to realize posse comitatus is worthless...again, not going to happen.
i'm pro-freedom. you're not living in a free country if you're shot because you're looting a walmart in a state that has just been devastated...
even when the POLICE ARE LOOTING TOO.
i answered your lame question...and that's the shit you give me? why do i bother?
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by bhallg2k
Wait a minute.
I thought the response was delayed because of beaurocracy - by the way, wasnt the Patriot Act and creating DHS supposed to fix that? That's what W is saying now.
Before that it was because help couldn't get to the stranded people even though hundreds of reporters and Harry Connick, Jr. found a way. But before that it was because they didn't know where the people were even though the refugees were all over TV. And before that it was because the states hadn't formally requested help.
So now it's because of gangbangers?
No, No. It's not because of bangers. Hell, the STATE and LOCAL governments knew shit would eventually hit the fan. Where the hell was the planning from that level? You know why Houston was set up to accomodate the arrival of the New Orleans people? Because they know if that storm was to hit Galveston, it would be the same situation and they would be prepared! This isn't entirely the Feds fault by a long shot.
As for the bangers, fuck em'!!! :D
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by pisshead
if you're aching to get me to lust after shooting and killing people because they're looting, and to praise forced evacuations in areas that have minimum damage...it's not going to happen. if you desperately want to me to realize posse comitatus is worthless...again, not going to happen.
i'm pro-freedom. you're not living in a free country if you're shot because you're looting a walmart in a state that has just been devastated...
even when the POLICE ARE LOOTING TOO.
i answered your lame question...and that's the shit you give me? why do i bother?
If they were just looting that is no cause for shots to be fired. If the cops/feds/national guard are fired on first...well, BANG BANG, there goes another piece of scum! :D
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
as it should be...
and i'm an honest person, but if i saw a guy raping a girl...or someone shooting someone else...i would do what i could to make sure that person doesn't get away with it. i would need a gun.
you don't have the freedom to just kill people, but i should be able to have that choice if someone threatens me or someone else.
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by pisshead
as it should be...
and i'm an honest person, but if i saw a guy raping a girl...or someone shooting someone else...i would do what i could to make sure that person doesn't get away with it. i would need a gun.
you don't have the freedom to just kill people, but i should be able to have that choice if someone threatens me or someone else.
Same damn thing the National Guard/ local police/ and state police are doing right now. Don't ya like their uniforms? What's the problem??? :confused:
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
i don't agree that that's all they're doing, that's my point...as i've said all along, they're extending those they disarm and forcibly evacuate into a wide net...not giving them the option of staying, even if their community sustained medium damage...and your house wasn't even flooded...
i hear stupid lies coming from people, namely the ones we're supposed to believe are our authorities and officials...i'm sorry, but when i see that word used, on fox and cnn, it's just blatant propaganda to me...these people have no authority over me, and they should have it over everyone.
that's rapidly not becoming a choice in this country...from traveling to opening a bank account to getting a prescription to what you buy at the grocery store to everything else...it's all becoming federalized...as the founders warned would happen...i can't ignore that.
just because everything has a fluffy display, and the graphics on fox and cnn look cool with moving backgrounds...to the 'official' seals and uniforms and institutions and cabinet departments and government departments...it's all just so fake...the emperor has no clothes.
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by pisshead
i don't agree that that's all they're doing, that's my point...as i've said all along, they're extending those they disarm and forcibly evacuate into a wide net...not giving them the option of staying, even if their community sustained medium damage...and your house wasn't even flooded...
i hear stupid lies coming from people, namely the ones we're supposed to believe are our authorities and officials...i'm sorry, but when i see that word used, on fox and cnn, it's just blatant propaganda to me...these people have no authority over me, and they should have it over everyone.
that's rapidly not becoming a choice in this country...from traveling to opening a bank account to getting a prescription to what you buy at the grocery store to everything else...it's all becoming federalized...as the founders warned would happen...i can't ignore that.
just because everything has a fluffy display, and the graphics on fox and cnn look cool with moving backgrounds...to the 'official' seals and uniforms and institutions and cabinet departments and government departments...it's all just so fake...the emperor has no clothes.
No electicity, no food, no water, corpses floating in the streets. I think it's in the best interests of these people to leave. Sorry!! :)
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
i specifically said i was talking about areas that sustained minimum or medium damage...with houses that aren't flooded, and some that have running water and electricity...
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by pisshead
i specifically said i was talking about areas that sustained minimum or medium damage...with houses that aren't flooded, and some that have running water and electricity...
Show me any link that states that ANY part of New Orleans has electricity and running water and I'll read every post of yours for a month!!! Every last word!
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
i didn't know you were limiting this just new orleans...i'm talking about other areas of louisiana, and mississippi and alabama.
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
Man I have smoke pot with people for 10yrs+ and I have never heard anyone who smoke pot and/or drugs defend the gov't like some do on this forum that is so weird, I smoke pot with people in oklahoma, texas, california, north carolina so i ask this. 1: Your on the gov't payroll 2:You dont smoke pot and on gov't payroll 3:your so brainwash that not even pot can free your mind........
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
I'll go for number 3.
What do I win? :p
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
well if i some peyote along with the best buds in the world i would give u sum
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by eg420ne
Man I have smoke pot with people for 10yrs+ and I have never heard anyone who smoke pot and/or drugs defend the gov't like some do on this forum that is so weird, I smoke pot with people in oklahoma, texas, california, north carolina so i ask this. 1: Your on the gov't payroll 2:You dont smoke pot and on gov't payroll 3:your so brainwash that not even pot can free your mind........
1) Won't be on any govenment payroll untill I collect social security....if it's still there!!
2) I don't smoke pot??? BWWWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!! Only been smokin for 20 years son!! :D And again, no, I ain't on no government payroll.
3) OHHHHHH, since I don't follow your logic I'm brainwashed. O.K.!!!
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
I'll go for number 3.
What do I win? :p
DEE, DE, DA, DEEEEE....and whats behind doooooor number three Jay?
OH BOY!!! We have the maytag washer and dryer and not only that but cruise ship vacation to the destination of your choice!!!
Now Ghost,.....you can keep your prize or risk it for a NEW CORVETTE by answering the following question! Is eg42ONE older, or younger than 16?
BWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! :D
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
psycho you needs sum peyote 2 when i get sum i let u know
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
DEE, DE, DA, DEEEEE....and whats behind doooooor number three Jay?
OH BOY!!! We have the maytag washer and dryer and not only that but cruise ship vacation to the destination of your choice!!!
Now Ghost,.....you can keep your prize or risk it for a NEW CORVETTE by answering the following question! Is eg42ONE older, or younger than 16?
BWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! :D
Oh... umm.......
**tick tock tick tock*
Errrrrr.......
*tick tock tick tock tick tock*
Younger! I'll go with younger!
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Oh... umm.......
**tick tock tick tock*
Errrrrr.......
*tick tock tick tock tick tock*
Younger! I'll go with younger!
Well Ghost we'll have to wait for a confirmation on that but I believe.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .........WE HAVE A WINNER!!!
wooooooooh, THAT WAS A TRIP! Get real fucked up and do that shit!!! Follow the cursor............................................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......
BWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! :D
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
lol lol lol lolol damn im glad im stone
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
On BBC news today they mentioned something about the Democrats accusing Bush of negligence, and possibly going for an impeachment. hat do you think the chances are?
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
its not going to go anywhere with B*sh Investigating it. lets all just lightup 1 for the decline Of the U.S.A....
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
On BBC news today they mentioned something about the Democrats accusing Bush of negligence, and possibly going for an impeachment. hat do you think the chances are?
It'll go as far as Hillaries lips to their news papers. Where was the state and local plan for this? They knew that this type of situation was a definate. Why weren't they prepared?
Sorry folks, I don't believe that the Fed needs to be there for all affairs. It is the responsibility of the local governments and state governments to take care of it's special needs.
Once again, that's why Houston was prepared to the N.O. people. They prepare for the same situation with Galveston.
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by eg420ne
its not going to go anywhere with B*sh Investigating it. lets all just lightup 1 for the decline Of the U.S.A....
Your like one of those Goth kids...right? :D
By the way, Ghost needs your age!!
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
just like a rightwingnut spin and spin away
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
just like a rightwingnut spin and spin away u all are the police why would give the police any info about me
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Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury on New Orleans: "Americans Are Being...
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Originally Posted by eg420ne
just like a rightwingnut spin and spin away u all are the police why would give the police any info about me
Sorry Ghost!!! Ol' eg42One found us out!!! One adam 12, one adam 12...the gig is up! eg42One is just wayyyyyyyy to smart for us!! :D
BWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! :D
EMERGENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OFFICER HIGH!!! :D :D :D
BWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! :D