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Just to say from a foreighn angle the telivision has shown here in France and on the english TV all day every day, that the black and the poor whites have been well and trully fucked by their people .The world jumped to the aid of tsanimi sufferers but the Americans ignored their own why it seems (from the biased or unbiased tv that is) because the poor are not worth fuck all. if it happened to middle class white Americans it would have been a whole lot different not a pround week for America
our government doesnt give a shit about the american people, this is true...but our people care alot....you know how many people voluntered to go rescue people to take random people they dont know and cloth feed them and give them a place to sleep, the american people have done all that we can now its time for ol bushy boy to step the fuck up and i hope those reps no see bush for who he really is
"because the poor aren't worth a fuck at all"
That's the good ol' American Government. Whatever happened to equal and unalienable rights?
This is what happens when all the power is given to the governments, people will have to save themselves. They waited 5days because B*sh needed a photo-op to serve the sheepple and monday B*sh will do more photo-ops..But the blame should be on all. We need to take back our Government. I live on the gulf coast and if theres a hurricane coming my i will get the fuk out noway i will stay and let this happen to me like it happen in neworleans but wait the hurricane wasnt the main cause, the levees failed they had over 25yrs to fix em so the blame goes far back, but if bush had not sent all the Nat Guard to Iraq and the fema wasnt there we could of save a lot of people period no if and s or buts about it
This is what i've been saying folks. And my lunch was eaten for it.
Yeh man, it's all going to the Mexicans!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by newbyfrance
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Originally Posted by newbyfrance
I would like to know what the hell you're talking about there france. I and many other people I know have personally donated money towards the Red Cross in support of Hurricane Katrina. If you were to be located over here in America you would see that President Bush has truly "fucked" his people, the US has done the complete oposite in helping them.
You say that when the Tsunami arose the whole world came in as a support, and was litterally the backbone for their whole survival. What has france done for the people of New Orleans except bitch about it all?? The US as a country is strong. Get back to me on that one.
actually the french donated quite a bit of money
We saved your ass in WWII, and we probably will again in WWIII.Quote:
Originally Posted by newbyfrance
From what i see on the news over here i come to the conclusion that bush is a fuckwit and is fucking over the victims of katrina, its nice to see the "joe average" american getting in there to help victims and puting a roof over afew heads, but all up considering the wealth of america and lack of help i think most yanks should be hanging there heads in shame
I wouldn't personally blame Bush for the problems in New Orleans right now. There are a lot of people at fault. Last hurricane season, it was mentioned a lot in the news that if a hurricane of significant strength ever hit that region of the country, New Orleans would be completely destroyed. The local government for that area, as well as the federal government, ignored this concern. When it finally happened, there was no plan in place, and as a result, this situation resulted.
There are government officials that have said that have said that they don't understand why more people didn't evacuate the city when a mandatory evacuation warning was issued before the storm. In reality, 27% of the people in the city live below the poverty line, and had no means of evacuating. No money + no car = no evacuation. And it is even more of a reality that the majority of these people are black.
Being a black American myself, I won't go as far as to say that our government ignores or hates black people and poor people (unlike black "celebrities" such as Kanye West and Jesse Jackson). The mayor of New Orleans is African-American, and it would be just as reasonable to blame his lack of planning for this hurricane, when it was well known that this disaster was a very real possibility.
I am appauled with the fact that we can bomb the shit out of Afghanistan and Iraq and fly in there and drop meals to their citizens, but we can't get sandwiches and a few bottles of water to hurricane survivors in our own country for 4 or 5 days. I do blame the government for the extremely slow and poor response to this disaster. But I will not say that George Bush is letting them starve because he doesn't care about blacks and the less fortunate. I live in Los Angeles now, and a huge earthquake could hit this city at any moment and leave us without food, water, and power. I just hope that we learn from this and that we are much better prepared for this scenario than we were in New Orleans.
Although the leaders of this country look like morons right now, I will say that I am prouder than ever to be an American because of the way our citizens are pulling together to help when our leaders have not. Yes, the government here is pretty fucked up in a lot of ways, but don't let that make you think all Americans are bad. 300 million people can't just leave and go somewhere else just because half of them didn't vote for the current president and don't agree with the war. And just like the entire world pulled together to help tsunami victims, it's great to see that the rest of the world is doing the same for New Orleans.
I think it's time for the states to get a new gov?
We dont get a new president till 2008, by then the country will be fucked, And yes EVERYONE in America is helping pretty much I mean hell even a 9 year old kid opended a lemonade stand just for the people in need.
If ur black why do u hav a pic of a white man. Me thinks u are a disinfo agent, Who u work NSA CIA FBI NSS FEMA...The governemnt is at fault after everything they could of sent water, food etc to the people in the conviction center, superdome . Even medical supplies and why did it take over 4days to do anything, and why was fema blocking aid going in. a cover up brewing just like 9/11, JFK.Quote:
Originally Posted by mike jones
your stupidity is breathtaking!!
Sarcasm a bitch to sum they just dont get it
World War III has already started, and France is wisely staying out of it (for now). But if/when it goes nuclear, there will be no saving of asses. Everybody will be screwed.Quote:
Originally Posted by a. beezy
Also remember that the French saved our ass in the American Revolution.
Ermi dont forget its "cool" to bash the french (as it is up here as we live with an entire province of em ;) ). Nevermind the fact without them there would be no america....Nevermind the fact they spent tons of money to give America a present of your new found freedom (The statue of liberty.....every seen the 15 ft tall one you gave back in return?).
Im not a big fan of current "french politics". However the constant name calling and such , such as a famous one (that I admit I even like) "a bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys" is historically inaccurate. If you average the amount of wars over time into a ratio the USA has actually retreated more.....But hey dont let facts get in the way of your freedom fries ;).
Same goes for my fellow canadians(as to americans), so what if they violate treaties they set up with us and demand we acquiesce to their side of it while violating ours.....We still shouldnt bash em all the time....seems more fashionable up here to bash americans then the french. Unfortunately alot of people actually bash the people and not the administration......
So basically we have the french and americans bashing each other for doing the exact same thing the other one does.....amazingly ironic.......
(p.s NO single one country saved anyone's ass in WW2 nor in any WW, so get over yourselves. Shoot most people claim to know alot about military history. But when asked when the first (official)special forces teams were made you get "aroogh?" for those who would like to know it was in ww2 ;), look it up id rather you learn then me just tell ya :) ). You might be surprised who made up these special forces.
The magnitude of the devistation in New Orleans is beyond what any of us has ever seen. I can understand a day to get prepared but to leave those people stranted like that for almost a week in the richest country in the world was just horrific. We can get food and medical supplies to third world countries in less time than it took for us to help our own people. Something is seriously wrong. Even Castro offered to send help...and what did Bush do....just ignored him. In a disaster it doesnt matter where the help comes from as long as it COMES. God help us in the event of a nuclear disaster. We couldnt even help a flooded city. So all those billions of dollars we spent on being prepeared....seems like its wasted. Last but not least...while I Dont condone the looting...Imagine if you will that for days on end....NOBODY is comming to your aid. You your family your friends all starving and dehydrating while I am not a criminal I would have broken into wallmart and taken some clothes and some fruits and whatever I could to drink. In a situation like that its about survival. Now the assholes that took the guns and looted jewelry stores....sorry but the diamonds aint gonna get you shit...they might if you live long enought to pawn them but as somebody on here said
Looting= taking what you need to survive
Robbing. taking advantage of a disaster for your own personal gain
And WHY THE FUCK would anyone shoot at the people that are trying to fix the leveys....the city will stay flooded until they can fix these major problems with the breaks. God bless the entire Coastline
Very true. World War II was a collective effort on the part of many armies. It probably would have failed without the US, but it probably would have failed without Stalin's Red Army too. If Hitler didn't have that eastern front to worry about, he very well may have captured the British Isles.Quote:
Originally Posted by weirdo79
It's from this show called Gerhard Reinke's Wanderlust which used to be on Comedy Central.Quote:
Originally Posted by eg420ne
http://imdb.com/title/tt0358829/
damn thats a ugly mugg
Newbyfrance,
What region are you in? i am searching for cool english speaking people in France.
bella
He already had captured some of them. lol You can't drive five minutes around here without seeing an old German bunker from the occupation. The little(r) island (Alderney) next to the one i'm one (Jersey) was used as an occupation/labour camp by the Nazis. Crazy stuff. And completely irrelevent. But there you go. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ermitonto
hahaha,the television in France also faked a entire video(France 2) about the shooting of a Palestinian child,and said we were using helicopter gunships to shoot people in the hurricane area.its called reality guys.you guys should focus on your on FAILING govt and thief chirac.will he ever be prosecuted for stealing all that money when he was mayor of Paris??just roll over as always huh frenchmen.stand up for once in your history for gods sake.jesus you guys are funny.
i agree with u america isant doing that much shit at all. but goddamn man thse poor black pple and white pple arent being real nice to the pple helping out either. i live a cuople states over from there and dude u dont no have the shit thats going on there /there are all those poor black pple who are sooo cool because there sooo called gangsters and can rape little kids and shoot old ladies and men tring to get to a fucking hospital there are decent pple over there but its more of pple thinking they can jsut take over the city and have a reall hood
but thats onley my opinon
Yeah, alot of these so called poor people doing all of this looting seems kinda bad to me, especially since some of the poor homeless people managaed to leave New Orleans in time with no money. I do agree there are some poor helpless people though, but I wouldlnt really blame it on Bush. I personally believe alot of it to be FEMA's fault.
"Some people have referred to it as the secret government of the United States. It is not an elected body; it does not involve itself in public disclosures; and it even has a quasi-secret budget in the bil
lions of dollars. It has the power to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial. It can seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and can suspend the Constitution"
Im pretty sure that this "Federal Emergency Management Agaency"FEMA, though originally to make sure we survive a nuclear attack, does have Billions of dollars for just this kinda thing. Where that money went when we actually need it now is beyond me...If they had spent even around 10 million at the beginning of this disaster everything would probaly have gone alot smoother...How hard would it have been to get 100 emergency busses into New Orleans befor the disaster?...those assholes didnt try to find out...
I took those quotes from "http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon6.html" very interesting read though not directly about the hurrucane.
Oh come the fuck on...America is the ONLY country that separates the rich from the poor? Please. France is NO better. Give me a fucking liberal break.
Well, it is a LITTLE better in France. If you bothered to look into the subject a little, you'd find out America has one of the biggest wealth gaps in the world.
In general, America acted very well in this, all the people down there say they are living upon their fellow man, the ones who can help, they go around with supplies, they say people are from as far as Oklahoma, they are the ones who should be judged, not the President's lack of physically removing the residents.