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OK, I got bored and did not want to wait to talk to H, he logged off right after I posted for a chat...anyway I took some lava rock and put it in the bottom of 6' pots, then decided to start them in styro cups...I am using Schultz Cactus grow-mix...a very nice mix...I hope :)
Camera still broke, so I'm starting this grow thread for reference...thanks for stopping by :)
Why the Cactus Grow soil mix? What's special about it? Just wondering.
I just checked it out as an alternative to soil...I don't want to use soil and the cactus mix retains moisture well is light and airy, before watering, I did add 4-5 handfuls of perlite...I also rea;;y like the orchid mix at Wally's...$8 bucks a bag
...Marc, just like Harddon uses Cactus ferts and you have joined him, well this is a medium designed for succulents, so I thought I'd give it a GO.
Interesting that you mention succulents. I had asked that question some time ago and I did some research into whether or not these plants are actually succulents. Nope. They're an herb. Here's some quotes;
"Cannabis sativa, indica and ruderalis are all a sub-species of Cannabis,which is a dioecious, annual herb. The correlation between cannabis and the tomato plant stems from them both having similiar growth and flowering requirements. (i.e nutrients, ph, temp, etc.)"
and
"...is not technically a succulent at all, but an herb"
I was trying to find out because of a formula for a fert I was going to use (Schultz Cactus) giving a recipe for indoor or outdoor succulents. Anyway I found out that although cannabis is not technically a succulent, but an herb, they both require similar fert strengths to prosper. FWIW
As for me using the cactus fert, if I had access to something other than that right now I wouldn't use it. Rather go organic then chemical. Probably will next time.
1st, I would disregard the directions on the bottle and use common sense as far as the indoor outdoor thing, the same bullshit is on the cactus mix bag, but we're not growing cactus, so advice is moot...you really ought to try the orchid mix...I have my 2 potted plants from my clones(you remember my clones, right)...well 2 of them are in the orchid mix(in the big pots)...might be Schultz,
anyway they are going great...the mix stay moist for a while...it is soiless-bark charcoal and moss, I believe...I wasted 2 clones, the ones that were still in the styro cups in my pix, they were full of roots and they were potted in orchid mix...when I presoaked the mix before potting, it was 6.5 ph...perfect!this mix was about 8 bucks
but I tell you, if things grow as they are, I might look no further for potted grow medium...the cactus mix is working well also, I just wanted to try it...
Marc, when I look for a mix, I use my research and look for something with a bark and peat of some kind perlite or 'lite something, the orchid mix has arcllite...the orchid mix has hortictural charcoal, I think that is some badshit!
the cactus mix has sand and lime...when I pick it up in my hand, I can just feel it..
Sorry about babbling on, but I just hit 4-5 bongs of my freshly cured tomato's
In conclusion...I think i am going to start my seeds in the cactus mix..it resembles the mix in peat pellets ...and then transplant into the orchid mix,so so rich...
this is how i'm going to find females and then clone for my hydro monster grows...
Just for the record...# misty blue popped thru to 1" tall since last night...no word on the 3 BBxJH...I hope they pop...
While weed may be classified as an herb, it is still a succulent, as it possesses the "ability to both move AND store nutrients in its roots, stems and flowers."
Some will define it as an herb....
Some will define it as a weed....
It's like saying a life form is "life".
You can continue to subclass it....
Human
Gender
Race
etc......
As for the cacti ferts.....
Well.....my results speak for me for myself for the test. I will use cacti 2-7-7 over and over and over again.
That shit works and is very gentle at the same time.
LW.....
As for your cactus soil...I would be concerned as succulents come in many forms and varieties and jsut cuz cacti are good with it, doesnt mean MJ will be.
True Cacti Soil is very sandy and contains many clay chips Excellent for drought areas. It will work for MJ but you will need to ride the fine line between drought and just enuff water.
I think if you have a good indica strain it should be suitable, but I wouldnt try it on more than 25% of the grow.
If you can master the moisture issue, you can do it.
I grew up in Arizona and I can assure you the plants there produce some good desert plants :)
But they will need far more water than cacti will :)
have used 21 drops of Cactus Plus since 8/11
8/11 8 drops
8/13 4 drops
8/15 2 drops
8/22 1 drop
8/31 1 drop
9/1 1 drop
9/3 1 drop
added to 1.5 - 2.0 gallons RO
the schultz is ridge peat, sphag moss perlite and sand, no clay :) ...the seedlings in in are thriving now and is retains moisture real well, :) I plan on transplanting this when necessary into the schultz orchid mix, which I am using for exp. with clone, doing as well as my hydro plants, :eek: so I am sold on this mix...Quote:
Originally Posted by HARDDON
I have one seedling that has a fatass purple stem and I can't even shake it with the fan blowing right at it :D ...right now I think I have found a 2 very nice mediums to work with, thanks harddon P.s. I am not using cactus ferts, but I'm glad to know(already knew) that they work for you...the Madman is not against trying something new...you know though, I never put the sand and indica together...hmmmm :cool:
I didn't read AJ's post before I added that ps...
interesting how many people use sand.
i would think sand is not good as it can cut, slice or sever root strands.
i used it on my first grow and wouldnt use it again.
I suppose, but if you hold this mix in your hand, you don't real feel sand it feels more like peat moss...I was surprised how light and fluffy it was...thanks for the heads up, I will watch for problems and possibly I will have to change...but so far, they all look good. Besides, they will be in the orchid mix soon enough
Ok, we got our bad seeds replaced and planted 3 of each...here are a couple of pix...
1. 2 misty blue/misty 1 and misty 2...I don't know if you all can see it, but these babies have red in the middle and blue/purple stems. :eek: ..I think they are going to be awesome!!!....Thanks KK...
2. misty 2 and a BBxJH that just popped out :)
3.This One won't move...Even with the fan blowing right on it it won't shiver...She's going to be a monster!
4.BBxJH...Look at that stem, fat. Can you say hardon? :eek: "ctw's", "dbf's"
tell me what the abbreviation's in "parenthesis" above means :confused:
first 5 to get it right; get a sample! :)yyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhaaaaaaa :cool:
I was able to download and take a couple of new pix...Quote:
Originally Posted by latewood
they are posted later in this thread...
I noticed more yellow tips on pic#3, this is BBxJH, so I expect trouble...any ideas?
1. 3 BBxJH...
2. 3 Misty Blue
3. I think this is blueberry...friend gave me 1, two years ago
...they are all showing the trademark reddish/purple hues... :p :) :D
I am finishing their new home, my new veg area tonight :eek:
LATEWOOD!! BEWARE! Those round things you have in that container are Thrip eggs!! Hard to see but there's one on your plant and another is just hatching!! And you can see other eggs crackin' gettin' ready to hatch!! Send your plants immediately to:
Dr. M. Benson
420 The Second Ol' Hollow Tree from the Corner Road
Canniboids, ATAC 10000000
I'll take care of them for you. I'm an exspurt. :cool:
HA!!!!!!!!!
And I figured this was latewood showin off again so I only now just read it.
Laughin my ass off.
Poor latewood.
Honestly this thread oughta be some kinda FAQ overall.
Excuse me while I go back to minding my uthuhhside_o_thetracks Bagseed Slut.
FAInterested - Today at HD I amazingly found the Schultz 2-7-7 Cactus Plus [latewood if I may be the total crasher can I ask you and the group to critique choices made today]. In particular the jug of Vigoro Root Stimulator which is 2-5-2 plus Vit B1. Wanted the VB1. But also wanted to get the Phospherous up there on advent of 12/12. At same time she still hasn't gotten any Nitrogen so... Also got a Wardley pH "regulator" (neutralizer) called Bullseye 7.0. Usually an aqaurium product?? -- Using RO water anyway (cause I think it dangerous to use the hardness conditioners cause they'd knock down all the good heavy mets like Magnesium, etc.) but not sure where the soil has been since mixing it up - have tester - will use. but there was this pH neutralizer at the wally's and I can't justify the organic healthywealthy up and down adjuster sets just yet.
Please slam away if the Wardley buy or anything else sounds .
Shrug. Seemed reasonably relevant when I began. 3 hits later I'm a pain in the ass. Sorry folkums.
"ctw's", "dbf's"
Hard to say but looks like not too many people are going to be getting a free sample! But let me know when someone posts the first correct answer. I'll post the same and get a free sample!! YEHAA!!
the plants in this pic, r they in large pots?Quote:
Originally Posted by latewood
just askin cause i feel after watchin a few grows, and on this grow i did a little experiment(forced on me).
i put most off the germinated seeds in2 large pots nearly from the first day and left some in smaller pots, and im starin flowerin 2morrow, the diff in size between the largeer potted ones and the smaller is substantial. so would u agree if u start off in bigger pots u not only get bigger plants(more room 2 grow) and no transplantin(no stress, well less than normall)
what u think? would that be the best way with dirt, germ them and straight in2 there permenant home?
If I were to grow again and had the space I wouldn't use less than a 5 gallon container. I saw a grow where the guy planted half his grow in 3 gallon containers and half in 5 gallon containers and the ones in the larger container smoked the others in yield. Everything was the same for all plants except for the size of container. Only thing you'd have to watch and adjust is your watering schedule and volume as of course a seedling won't take near as much as a mature flowering plant.
To me, if you had the space, the answer would be to grow in Jiffy Pots (the ones that break down when placed in soil and the roots just grow right through them) and then put them in the 5 gallon container after a few weeks. And that time frame of course dependent on the size of the Jiffy's. No transplanting needed.
sounds good marc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Benson
i made a thread bout startin my flowerin can u help me out an have a read see what u think???
its in indoor growin
black pot is 1/2 gallon probably...Quote:
Originally Posted by red662
I use 5" netpots for hydro and the rest are 16 0z styro...I am just growing these to sexing' then keeping moms and hydro-cloning.
I have a real nice clone(check other thread latewood's little room, once I have posted today's pix.
these are bb(black pot)...misty blue's...and BBxJH
1 and 5...bb, not as bad as it looks the reddish/purple hues largely took the place of yesterday's yellow...blurry I know new camera (kodak7300), not used to it yet :p
2...misty 2
3...misty 3
4...BBxJH
Just wanted to get something up for you all to cratique, replanting tonight
to 1.5 liter blackpots...lava rock, schultz orchid mix and marble topping...ala
Harddon :D
Off to my "little room" to tie down stretchy plants...OK
I am having trouble with a couple, of these bbxjh, but misty blues, doing well
1.BBx JH
2.Misty blue
3.Misty blue
4. Two heads are better than 1...Check this out harddon...will it grow a main kola or stay siamesed?
Go Hydro
Go Advanced Nutrients
Well, what do you think...3 pix, same plant
updates later today
OK...Out of the 6 I started...1 grew an 1/8th inch stem and then died...
I sexed one in 12/12 and it was male, Pic 1
I have four more blues-2 BBxJH and 2 Misty blue...one each Dwc and also, one each in Orchid mix.
Pix are as follows
1. Male (collecting pollen), but I might keep it :eek: Strong plant!
2. All four blue strains crosses :p
3. Blueberry/Jack Herer cross
4. Misty Blue cross (sagamartha blueberry and unknown, at this time),KK's
5. "the runt"...this is Misty Blue2 that knocked over the shelf and fell on the floor...
Posting 2 pix of Big BBJack in next window, latewood
Here are 2 individual pictures of the strongest BBJack in DWC, still on light nutes...She will be flowering soon,,,very soon :eek:
How old are those plants?
BTW looking good!:)
well thread was started month and a half ago, so 52 day-55 days probably...I would have to look it up...they sat forever producing a really strong root system...These blues have the biggest stalks for small plants that I have ever seen...they also were somewhat neglected week 2-4, because I was out of town working and someone else tended them improperly by accident
Here are some pix...building new system will update again, soon
1. the 2 headed monster
2. I don't know about this plant
3. a pik of the 2 babies in Schultz Orchid mix...Just gave them their first taste of ferts, because they seemed a little too light green
4. Group shot on top of new system...still have some bugs to iron out...
I just moved them under the 400w sunmaster, also
Well, it figures....ready to take a break, find myself waiting for the upload to finish Blues...Oh well... :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: :stoned:
hmm...I'm going to bed whoop there they are...later
I also added pix of the root system of the 2 plants in DWC...
1. I think I should clone this one, now...What do you think?
2. Do these look 'Male' to you?
3. My biggest BBjack in DWC rootball...6 weeks from sprouting :smokin:
4. This is a replant from soil after a falling accident...Roots have increased
1000% in the last 2 days when I gave it veg week 3 tea/nutrient mix.
latewood
Well, I have pistil's showing 4 fem's :dance: ...I have replanted the BBJack's in Orchid Mix into 17 liter pots, where they will remain for the rest of grow...they responded well to the replant, :) being rootbound, might have been the problem with them being yellow...I have them on full nute program and expect to finish these at 24" I would guess...
There are 15 clones rooting from these plants...watch for cloning stepbystep...coming soon :thumbsup:
The hydro plants are doing great...remember the big 2 headed Misty 2 plant has been in DWC since seedling/transplanted...the other I picked up off the floor about a month ago and transplanted it into hydro...It curly qeued around and is growing on the deck...fine with me!!! Here is a pix of babies in ther new space...
1. 2 dwc...2 Schultz Orchid mix
2. DWC...you ought to see the rootball on the big hydro plant. I can barely get it out of the res...or, I should say, "It takes finesse to get this monster rootball out of the res"...
3. Curly Blue
4. Orchid mix 'duo'
We are at day 60 something...
Here are some pix of blues in 3rd week of flower...look at the pistils just covering the fat budsites...
1. I just took some pix and played with my editor...this one is normal
2. this is sepia tone
3. This is a cannabis cartoon
4. I can't remember what i did to this pic
5. Normal above shot, cropped to see these beautiful buds...
Stay tuned to the forums...the mad scientist is getting ready to crank up
several threads including a step by step bubble cloning thread, and a re-veg thread...lw
One of these bbjack's turned out to be a Misty blue...both yielded some good smokeQuote:
Originally Posted by latewood
So.. What was up.. Yield, yield again? Smoke good? How good?:D
I want answers!:)
the 2 orchid mix plants turned out 'Excellent'...smoke is heavy and dank from the Misty Blue...Indica High...trippy.........BBJack is spicy flavor...Good Stoner high, You can work well on this, after you get started...yield from each in 3g pots was 2-3 ounces
DWC yield is still hanging upside down like a 'Bat'...it will probably go 12-13 ounces, but 1/2 of the DWC twin Misty Blue seeded heavily...Seeds will be featured at klozitking.net Member's weekend Auction in the Near Future. Remember, these seeds
come from Misty Blue/Original Misty x Sagarmatha's 1st place Blueberry and the legendary Blueberry Jack Herer...later.lw
Looks good latewood! :thumbsup:
That Blueberry x Jack Herer sounds interesting. A nice, deep Indica crossed with a nice Sativa...very nice man.:cool:
Peace