I want to delete an old post I posted about 3 weeks ago, but there is nowhere on the post to edit or delete. Why can I not delete my post? Is this site narc watched? What the hell?
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I want to delete an old post I posted about 3 weeks ago, but there is nowhere on the post to edit or delete. Why can I not delete my post? Is this site narc watched? What the hell?
should be a lesson to yaQuote:
Originally Posted by 420dude
dont post what ya may regret
besides even if removed ITS IN THE ARCHIVES FOREVER
so dont post what you dont want here forever.
peace
ps.
you do get 5 minutes to edit it once posted and that's it.
burrrrrrrrned!
That's not a very nice reply.Quote:
should be a lesson to ya
dont post what ya may regret
besides even if removed ITS IN THE ARCHIVES FOREVER
so dont post what you dont want here forever.
peace
ps.
you do get 5 minutes to edit it once posted and that's it.
Have you ever considered that peoples circumstances change and some times they cannot be controlled ?
Have you ever posted to find the information you posted was incorrect or was not presented correctly , or even out of anger frustration?
You ever considered there could be security issue and some ones safety is at risk??hhmmm
I've seen members at other sites do extra jail time because the DEA matched a grow bust to pictures he had posted online.
I feel 5 minutes is total rubbish and is nothing but a danger to community and totally horrified this has been enforced on such a site.
Safety is the most important thing for many and clearly that has not been considered here.
What is the reason for this?
well as nice as i can say thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Fet
if your so worried about it, LEAVE the posting to others.
simple solution
but i was stating facts
even if removed,it will be in archives
and the DEA crap about pics,hahhaa
"I've seen members at other sites do extra jail time because the DEA matched a grow bust to pictures he had posted online"
then why i ask have you posted at all. ?if this is so,
and i thinks that is bullshit from paraniod thinking.
lesson learned,
i mean no harm or am not trying be rude
but dude,read the fine print before you sign ya name,
dont post if ya dont want the world to read it FOREVER
it will be there as long as there is internet.
and five minutes is plenty of time to edit for adults
peace
oh yeaQuote:
Originally Posted by NowhereMan
POST AT YOUR OWN RISK
does that help.?
Ron the owner makes those decisions mods don't have access to that feature anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fet
NowhereMan you really need to grow up , laughing at what has happened to good people is SAD!..you are not worth my time!Quote:
simple solution
but i was stating facts
even if removed,it will be in archives
and the DEA crap about pics,hahhaa
Zandor fair enough but with all the problems in the world today safety is of importance.
I'd hate to see another member of a site do extra time because he was sharing and helping others.
It's usually only the poster who can make a call if their safety is at risk and for some freak reason they need to have items deleted.
Fine example is today, my pc crashed last night I returned today to find I'm still logged in. Now if a not so friendly user such a tech guy to fix my pc hit history and found I was Fet on this site , Id atleast like the option to remove any info that might risk my safety, such as pictures etc
Whos to say , a canna hater of such sorts might decide to inform LEO of my activities online and there is no possible way I could remove any info from this site...very risky.
It could be a picture as harmless as my pet dog that has me linked and busted.
If you want credible informative posts with pictures the site needs to look out for the safety of its members.
If one is super concerned about their personal security/privacy, they shouldn't be posting messages they don't want others to see on any publicly viewable message board; this is just basic common sense ... isn't it? ... anyways, will add building a board support faq to the to-do list.
With that said, one's message postings (text, pictures, etc) alone most often do NOT constitute anywhere near enough evidence to obtain a conviction, let alone even filing charges in many instances - it most often requires much more ... if one is being investigated, the authorities (often using informants first to troll/establish contact) will seek an in-depth one-on-one dialogue via email, IM, phone, post, in-person, etc over a period of time (can be upwards of years in some instances; months more typical) with the person(s) being investigated.
Finally, in a nutshell, nowhereman hit it right on ... blunt, but right to the point :)
Ron
Ron in my travels I have not found one board apart from his one that does not allow you to edit your posts...example www.overgrow.com one of the biggest allows such simple edits. Yes not hard deletion but it does allow it for the safety of it's members.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Bennett
Peoples circumstances change and not every one lives in a cannabis friendly area so what was once a free public post can quickly turn nasty on a member at a time that is not expected.
I guess you have never witnessed another grow busted then NARC to leo in a last effort to buy themselves some freedom?. It happens all the time and quickly what was once friendly sharing on such a community board has some helpful member pinned by LEO.
Another true example was a bust of a member from a certain site , evidence pictures were taken of his grow set up like any bust and held by leo.
During his wait for trial LEO was doing studies on water culture at this forum and matched his evidence pictures to pictures posted on the site.
While he claimed he had only been growing a few months his online display had him pinned for years of growing. The poor guy was only helping med users and was given a few extra years jail time.
We currently have Marc Emery in hot water and witnessing how far they will go to bust some smokers from tracking mail to sending fake notes to customers
So in a nut shell I have given CREDIBLE reasons why users should be able to edit but you have given NONE!
What happen to safety or others , just stating "I'm right jack "who cares about you attitude is terrible.
So why not allow members to edit their posts what is the reason for not allowing this ?
I would of liked to add this to my post but cannot edit..lol
I found this in FAQ top header bar..
Quote:
Can I edit my own posts?
If you have registered, you will be able to edit and delete your posts. Note that the administrator can disable this ability as he desires. Your ability to edit your posts may also be time-limited, depending on how the administrator has set up the forum.
To edit or delete your posts, click the button by the post you want to edit. If your post was the first in the thread, then deleting the post may result in the removal of the entire thread.
After you have made your modifications, a note may appear, which notifies other users that you have edited your post. Administrators and moderators may also edit your messages but this note may not appear when they do so.
Looks to be very misleading "may also be time limited" to late if 10 minutes later I realized my picture posted was not edited correctly and my finger prints are displayed in the picture..ouch or I find I uploaded the wrong pictures and my PC crashes while doing it and it takes time to get back online or if at all?
Major safety issues to consider on NO valid reason why editing should not be enabled to users..
ok pal just go read this .Quote:
Originally Posted by Fet
http://www.marihemp.com/privacy/
and i quote
"Bottom line, it is ultimately up to visitors to protect their privacy and understand that there is no such thing as 100% privacy on the internet nor in the real world for that matter. It all comes down to managing risk and how much one is willing to accept.
actually im not luaghing at anyone ? untill now
and in fact thought i was being helpfull if not short about responding.
so if i waisted your time just think how i felt about it,
u took my words as some insult>?or smart ass remark?
i guess we think differently,
you were wrong becuase ya just dont know me when i want to insult or be a smart ass i sure can.but i want to make myself clear now
and if you think im being a smartass then UNCLINCH your cheecks and think about it agian.
was giving advise.
and i will repeat the most important part
dont post anything ya dont want to last forever,
or could ever get u in trouble.
here or anywhere.
peace
Clearly credible suggestions are being posted that will help the safety of others and they are being ignored .Quote:
NOTE: This is the Feedback and Suggestions area
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This is the Feedback and Suggestions area - your feedback helps make this service better.
Why add to the risk of members when it can be lowered?
Instead of quoting a privacy policy why not work in a positve way to help lesson the chances of some one being busted?
Why not we all just give up on trying to free the weed and just start quoting the law....every time some one asks a question?..lol..lame!
We listen and do respond to suggestions / feedback when we can ... ie. there's a 5 minute edit window; originally there was going to be none.
The only way to be totally private is not to post on the internet anywhere; disconnect completely - editing / deleting a message (similar goes for email, webpage, chat, IM, etc too) after the fact doesn't automatically make it disappear...
Information is often retained in ways that are not obvious - ie. for persons running on Windows XP and similar, some of their browsing activity is logged in multiple undocumented index.dat files, which are hidden; clearing browser history, etc doesn't erase the content of such files.
Nowhereman aptly quoted the portion of the Privacy policy that puts this whole privacy issue into layman's terms ...
Again to reiterate, privacy / risk management is the responsibility of the poster not us - when one posts a message on any publicly accessible message board, they should rightly assume the public, potentially including law enforcement, is going to view their message; save/archive it.Quote:
Bottom line, it is ultimately up to visitors to protect their privacy and understand that there is no such thing as 100% privacy on the internet nor in the real world for that matter. It all comes down to managing risk and how much one is willing to accept.
Such risks can in all honestly only be reduced by the poster ... once one posts, what happens to their message is out of their hands, and out of our control - deleting, editing, etc after the fact won't make the message disappear for those folks who have already viewed it; archived it.
On a related topic, when one publishes (the boards is a publishing medium) their thoughts intended for others in the public (even if only limited to a sub-set) to read, it become part of the collective commons; no longer completely theirs...
To put this in layman's terms - how would you like to read a thread, especially one you had taken time to post in, and then later find much of the thread missing because of deleted posts - that's not fair to those seeking information, and especially not to those who took the time to respond; del has already hit upon this issue before.
Finally, again to reiterate for the zillionth time, privacy is ultimately the responsibility of the poster - as the old saying goes "loose lips sink ships" ... if one doesn't want others to know about something, don't tell them; don't post about it on public message boards, etc.
Ron
That's why they created programs such as Evidence Eliminator and many others to help the average user clear such information.Quote:
Information is often retained in ways that are not obvious - ie. for persons running on Windows XP and similar, some of their browsing activity is logged in multiple undocumented index.dat files, which are hidden; clearing browser history, etc doesn't erase the content of such files.
What I also noticed is dozens of users online with no movement on the site is it because people fail to log out when leaving?
I looked about and I see no options to set for auto time/log out for users like other sites that are concerned about their members safety.
8yrs this site has been running and still problems here.
The last thing I want is some nosey person on my pc tracking my every movement because I failed to log out. Just maybe it might be Leo who has taken my pc and now has a free run "Danger"
Ron if parts of the post were missing and it saved another brother or family from going through hell I wouldnt care...Quote:
To put this in layman's terms - how would you like to read a thread, especially one you had taken time to post in, and then later find much of the thread missing because of deleted posts - that's not fair to those seeking information, and especially not to those who took the time to respond; del has already hit upon this issue before.
A little bit of txt /images is nothing compared to years in jail that some one might have to suffer...clearly you are missing the point!
So you would trade a brother to leo just so you can have a thread that will bury itself into your data base and lucky to be viewed again.
To put this in layman's terms safety should be more important to this site then some missing posts!
But I will state I would very annoyed to read a post that gave misleading info risking grows, safety,methods and the health of members on this board.
How often does a person search to read only the first part of thread that they felt answered their question. But to later find the info was incorrect and the poster had NO option to edit it correctly.
Yeh sure they could post another message 5 pages later stating an error but the damage is already done.
And I know for a fact I post info and later come back and add more to the original post to save members sifting through piles of rubbish.
Clearly it seems it seems you are more intent on filling the board with any information right or wrong and care nothing about the safety of others.
Now I understand why I left here 6-7 yrs ago along with many others such as Vic High, Chimera, Uncle Ben, Mr xx Cees etc etc Sadly since those days this site has always been referred to as cannaforkids..sad but true.
NFM
well said,Quote:
Originally Posted by NowhereMan
always think b4 u post ;)
couldnt of said it better NWM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fet
misleading would be to tell you its safe to post anything anywhere and expect it to be secure at all times,cant be done,if they want the info they can get it,AND IF THAT AINT CLEAR,put it this way
how would you like to be thinking ITS SAFE and its not.
how can you expect editing ya post or deleting it to protect you if your dum enough to post something that COULD be used somehow to arrest ya ?
ron is telling ya plain,it aint safe to post sensitve info
dont do it,here or anywhere,honest would be tell ya ITS NEVER a good idea to put up a post with something you can be busted for.
"Clearly it seems it seems you are more intent on filling the board with any information right or wrong and care nothing about the safety of others. "
clearly you dont see he is .
Clearly it seems you cant comprehend that premoting the idea of a non secure site as secure is BULLSHIT first class and would in fact do just what you say you dont want to happen,
cuase people to post things and get them busted thinking its SO SAFE and all,afterall the average poster knows what a cop would use and what not?now wouldnt he?
aint it better that everyone knows its not,and no one think it is safe
i know for a fact ron wants us all safe but he cant hold your hand while u post,(your pics of your grow,and pic of your house and street,ect)that is up to the poster and nobody else.
not to give you a hard time but dam dude what ya want the man to do fix this place to suit you personally?
use it,or dont jeesh
I have listed a number of CREDIBLE reasons to turn this 5 minute feature off example: incorrect info posted,updates and risking peoples safety all because you don't want to see some shitty posts deleted...(sad and selfish)
You would rather give LEO an extra hand to jail or ruin a members life just so you can have your board full of possible incorrect posts.
I guess as long as your safe who gives to shits about some one who might slip up.
Stuff that member if he makes a mistake he should of read "the site policy"..!
Or could it be let's display to our sponsors how much turn over we have "right or wrong "and the more we can charge for our advertising....lol
This thread and actually suggestion forum is a complete waste of time as clearly other issues out weigh the one poor reason for not allowing to edit
This is the only site that I know of that has no consideration for it's members safety.
...shame shame..
the only reason any time was wasted here ...FET...is because YOU don't get it!
It would be a bigger security risk to let any idiot that got a wild hair up their ass to run amuck and screw up the continuity of threads....5 minutes is more than enough,
other sites I belong to, don't even allow that...I assure you this is the last second I will waste on this BS
one poor reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fet
to you only.
here is the reason i will right it big
RON CANNOT GUARANTEE YOUR SAFETY SO HE SAYS SO UP FRONT
AND DOES NOT MISLEAD YOU ABOUT IT,
stop whining over a edit feature,like it or dont,thats how it is
so stay here posting or not,your chioce and quiet frankly
i dont care at this piont if ya ever belong anywhere
whats sad and selfish is you want shit to fit your way
and you been here what 4 days>?
dude get ya own site and run it how ya like
leave us alone here if ya DONT like it Leave it.
shit is it not simple ?
why make such a production out of your paraniod dillusions
the shame is u dont seem smart enough to see it anyway but yours.
and of course then your never wrong are you
he does consider your suggestions,if its a good one, will be used if not,NOT.
Peace
well fet...sorry if we don't drop everything and and change the board programs to suit someone who has been a member here for all of one week now, but that is simply not done here...or anywhere else for that matter!
perhaps you should start your own forum and run it the way you suggest/demand here! you've been around long enough to know how these message boards operate...eh?
That sums it up perfectly. As a webmaster dealing with copyright photos, once I post one of our photos into a newsgroup, I lose exclusive rights. The photo enters the public domain and I have lost control of any use of the picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Bennett
When any of us post to a MB, we no longer control what we've shared. And trying to is a little like Alysa Milano's crazy mother threatening to sue every celeb website for posting her daughter's tit pics.
If you don't want your tits on the internet, then don't show them in public; if you don't want cops to see your grow, then don't post them on a MB. Simple.
What I want to know is, how the hell did this get so many posts???
Fet, Goddamn man some of your comments are WAY out there.
Worrying that youll go to jail because s tech guy sees that you post a picture of your dog on a cannabis forum ?!?!
What country do you live in where doing that is illegal?
That comment alone reduces your posts to uneducated paranoid ramblings in the minds of most members . You are bordering on the edge of hysteria pal.
Calm down, take a deep breath, smoke a bowl, and read your own posts.
Being so abbrasive is not the way to communicate any intelloigent ideas in a way for people to listen...but LOOK!.....admin and mods are listening anyway!
Doesnt this show you they are interested in your feedback and to help you understand the policy. They are not the closed minded communists you paint them to be. Listen to what they say because they are not going to keep taking you by the hand and walking you through it step by step.
It is expected and appreciated that you familliarise yourself with policy BEFORE agreeing to it my friend. Once you agree its childish to whine about it then.
If you are not adult enough to censor your own words then dont come and join in the aduly conversations.
How do you function in social situations? You cant keep telling your friends "hey whipe my last comment from your memory I have decided it wasnt the right thing to say"
Once you say something you own it.You cant erase it, you cant hide it or hide from it. That is a reality of life you neeed to adjust to because it will never change. Censor yourself BEFore you speak. Thats what the rest of us adults do. If you regret a post, the best you can do is repost a better explaination or an apology. You cannot rewrit the past.
If your lips are too loose to keep you from blabbing shit that will get you in trouble then you shouldnt be left unsupervised at the computer and need a babysitter.
May I suggest you use the following forum until you get the hang of it. Im sure it will be a little more your pace for the time being.
http://www.kelloggs-alarabi.com/engl...ids/index.html
Please come back once youve got a grip on reality and how to carry on a conversation. Im sure you could contribute positively once youve mastered that.
http://www.kelloggs-alarabi.com/engl...ids/index.html
Peace.
oops I made a few typos ^^^ but dont worry Ron, I can live with it.
:)
My thoughts exactly....Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkyMonkey
You have to own what you say.
Once (just once) in the 5th grade I said something really fucking stupid and I was wondering if Ron or someone could just go back and take care of that for me....thanks.
and Fet...take your hostility out somewhere else.
DUH they need more specifics. A link would be helpful!Quote:
Originally Posted by likemclever
LOL!
Wow a pissing competition who has been here longer..lol if you must know I've been a member here for many years and I already run two small forums and stock a number of seedbanks.....YAWN!Quote:
Originally Posted by del...
If you don't want to listen to what I say and brush it off with read the policy blah blah thats cool your loss. Many years ago this site use to be bubbling with quality growers and breeders...but as time went on they moved out to better sites that were more understanding of their needs and safety.. (unlike here) And since that day this site has always been referred to as kiddie.com ..sad but true!
I just thought I'd give some light onto some of the problems here..your loss not mine!
FEt - I take personal offense at your statement. I yield over 2+ pounds from each plant every harvest and I consider myself to be a very experienced grower. I must grow indoors and I don't have the room to breed seeds and yes you are a very skilled breeder (I have grown and I will grow your strains still in the future) I like your crosses they are very stable and that important but please don't disrespect my growing skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fet
There are many great growers around here and in the cultivation area we have more adults then most other sites. I do my best to not allow the problems that plague OG to occur here and kiddies are kept to a mild challenge. Kiddies are everywhere worse at some places better at others.
I understand some of what you are saying but Ron is the boss he makes the decisions. If Leo wants you he will get you and this forum or any forum will not make that hit happen. Common sense is a must and we can't be responsible for all the dumb people.
I do respect you and your right to speak you voice and have your say, but if you spend enough time here you will see just how good the people are around here. Del is one of the most helpful people around this forum as well as many others.
I guess if you can get enough members to join your voice things may change I think if there is a large enough movement Ron will respond in kind.
You can catch more flies with honey then you can with vinegar.
very well said.in my opinion,(which we are all intitled to)sometimes you can say the nicest stuff,yet still get smart ass remarks or negativaty.it is mostly a young ppl site.so theory is kids dont think fast enough.there mind has not taken it to the limit.so when they post they should be ware 5 minuts is a chicken S==t time limit.use mind a little harder and think before speak is best bet maybe.but yes is this one of only site(not for sure ) where editing is a limit.you post a pic and a saying that maybe wasnt said rite.well you are still screwed,crying shame that a little thing like edit post time is such a big prob to make atleast 24 hrs.i think the honchos are sitting on there duff and reading and saying to them selves.look at all ppl who post way to much infoQuote:
Originally Posted by Fet
My opinion...
You don't people seeing it? Don't post it.
Don't wanna deal with the consequences of being caught growing?
DON'T GROW.
Nobody else is responsible for your privacy or lack there of, except you.
no pissing being done on my end...just giving you a short, direct answer.
>>>your loss not mine<<<
whatever...
Fet: Could you please tell me how to get into the links above. It kept telling me that I had invalid name/password. I want to read your stuff, and GdDmn female grapefruit. For real? My mouth is watering.
Del: I wanted to put up a heart icon, but there is none,so: grateful heart saying thank you for your energy and concern
The moderators are volunteers? Very cool. I didn't think anyone volunteered for anyhting any more. Thks to you all. One love.