Should those who loudly support the war, shut up and go fight it?

Or continue to be cowardly hypocrites?

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I said no. The less people dying for greed, the better.

i think those public servants we elect so we can call them officials and authorities should have to...

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Originally Posted by Sinsemilla Jones

Or continue to be cowardly hypocrites?

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Volunteer services....sorry butt munch! :D

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Originally Posted by Sinsemilla Jones

Or continue to be cowardly hypocrites?

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Howdy SJ,

There are folks joining to fight..instead of whining like the anti-wars do..I joined when I was 17..back in '76..were you in diapers back then..or just a gleam in yore daddy's eyes ? I tried to git back in,when DS1 went down,but I was still recovering from back surgery and they wouldn't let me back in..have you ever had the desire to fight for other folk's freedom ? Or do you just cling to your freedom and say to heck with those who do not have freedom ? That we should not interfere with their culture of brutal oppression ?

The only cowards here,are those who selfishly cling to their freedom and refuse to fight for other's freedom..the cowards are those who believe that if we appease the terrorists..that they will just fade back into the woodwork and give up their diabolical plans to destroy the Free World. Did you appease the school-yard bully,by givin him yer lunch money everyday ? Did he stop asking for your lunch money..? I doubt it .

Have a good one ...

I helped you out once, but it didn't mean a damn thing to you.
:(

If you paid attention to the things I've written, you'd know what I'm really about.
;)

But you're too self-absorbed to notice.
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Next time, I'll just let everyone find the name, workplace, and e-mail of the mom of the guy who thinks he knows soooooooo much about protecting his family and keeping them secure.
:eek:

Hell, since you think I'm a stupid young commie thug no matter what I've written over the years, I might just go ahead and live down to your expectations.
:p

You're not only an asshole, you're an idiot.
:)

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Volunteer services....sorry butt munch! :D

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You a candy stripe girl or something?

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Originally Posted by Sinsemilla Jones

You a candy stripe girl or something?

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You wish bitch! :D

Like to candy stripe some Red, White, and Blue on that yellow on your back. :D

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Originally Posted by pisshead

i think those public servants we elect so we can call them officials and authorities should have to...

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And to be fair, Chelsia should go, too.
;)

For that matter, both Senators Edwards and Santorum look young and fit.
:)

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

You wish bitch! :D

Like to candy stripe some Red, White, and Blue on that yellow on your back. :D

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Yep, I'm right.

You are a pussy hawk.

:)

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Originally Posted by Sinsemilla Jones

And to be fair, Chelsia should go, too.
;)

For that matter, both Senators Edwards and Santorum look young and fit.
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Edwards???

BWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! :D

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Originally Posted by Sinsemilla Jones

Yep, I'm right.

You are a pussy hawk.

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Same thing your momma told me last night! :D

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Same thing your momma told me last night! :D

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"Take this remark from Richard, poor and lame,
Whate'er's begun in anger ends in shame."

-Benjamin Franklin

I dont quite see the point in posting a poll where the only avaliable options support your view. Kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it...

Besides, this country is based on dissent and debate. You have the right to be a liberal idealist, and others have the right to be gun-toting conservative war-supporting barbarians. Simple as that, if anyone doesn't like it they are free to go live in some 3rd world shithole.

Because we all know except for "This" country every other one is a 3rd world shithole, Especially that Dastardly nest full of terrorists The Netherlands. Damn them and their decrimined Cannibus and their liberal attitudes towards self government. After all it's not like they have pretty much the #1 country overall , pretty much according to any other country. But meh what do a bunch of people in 3rd world shitholes know ;) .

(sorry Toko I know you didnt mean it that way but im feeling devilish and baked tonight)

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Originally Posted by Sinsemilla Jones

I helped you out once, but it didn't mean a damn thing to you.
:(

If you paid attention to the things I've written, you'd know what I'm really about.
;)

But you're too self-absorbed to notice.
:mad:

Next time, I'll just let everyone find the name, workplace, and e-mail of the mom of the guy who thinks he knows soooooooo much about protecting his family and keeping them secure.
:eek:

Hell, since you think I'm a stupid young commie thug no matter what I've written over the years, I might just go ahead and live down to your expectations.
:p

You're not only an asshole, you're an idiot.
:)

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Howdy SJ,

Please remind me how you helped me once..I appreciate whatever ya did.

I thought that I did pay attention..but I have forgotten...

Maybe I am too self-absorbed..I apologize for that...

I appreciate you keeping my mother's info private..

Actually..I don't think of you as a stupid, young communist thug ...

As for being an asshole and an idiot..I may very well be...

Just how old are you ?

Have a good one ....

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Because we all know except for "This" country every other one is a 3rd world shithole, Especially that Dastardly nest full of terrorists The Netherlands. Damn them and their decrimined Cannibus and their liberal attitudes towards self government. After all it's not like they have pretty much the #1 country overall , pretty much according to any other country. But meh what do a bunch of people in 3rd world shitholes know ;) .

(sorry Toko I know you didnt mean it that way but im feeling devilish and baked tonight)

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Amsterdam the city is very liberal,Holland as a whole is not.Amsterdam is but a tiny piece of HOLLAND.DUH.

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Originally Posted by weirdo79

Because we all know except for "This" country every other one is a 3rd world shithole, Especially that Dastardly nest full of terrorists The Netherlands. Damn them and their decrimined Cannibus and their liberal attitudes towards self government. After all it's not like they have pretty much the #1 country overall , pretty much according to any other country. But meh what do a bunch of people in 3rd world shitholes know ;) .

(sorry Toko I know you didnt mean it that way but im feeling devilish and baked tonight)

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LOL, did I say that the netherlands, or any of western europe for that matter, was a 3rd world country? No, I meant pretty much all the rest of the world. Why does "every other country" think the netherlands are the best? Because you can smoke there? Ya know, not everyone bases thier opinion of a country on whether or not weed has been decriminalized. Ignorance. It's what fuels the world's shittiness.

It's ironic that you would think so. But outside of the United states would be the Netherlands my friend so yeah you did infer it(also alot more than western europe and the netherlands isnt 3rd world....). (as I pointed out it was a joke). Exactly! not everyone bases their opinion of a country on whether you can smoke there or not. However you seem to think this is what they based it on?You question "Because you can smoke there?" and then proceed to tell me how the majority doesnt base their opinions on smoking weed....(duh..next time maybe i'll look up some stats instead of using my magical crystal ball bong..."thats sarcasm"..) OHHHH wait I get it international statistics are directly based on the stoner population my mistake......yep ignorance truly does fuel the worlds shittiness. Perhaps if you didnt ASS+U+ME that world opinion was fed to me off some pro cannabis site you wouldnt have jumped the gun ;).

After all I was just teasing you for a typical slip up that many americans make.

Also Amsterdam.....Once again your wonderful jet setting worldy opinion shows forth. However the majority of the Netherlands laws disagree with you. I go by the law(not my personal experience which would be biased although it would colour it a bit) which is a lot more liberal then over on this side of the atlantic. Also how they care for their own citizens....But hey I've been there and thought it was liberal you've been and thought it was conservative. Technically speaking im only going on a comparison of governance and social responsibility what are you basing yours on? Also the "Duh" comment exceptionally "amsterdamish" enforcing your opinion with "duh" really drives it home......

How about we send the capitalist elites responsible for the wars to fight them, not the innocent masses? Why does Bush urge us all go to do his fighting, while he and his daughters live it up in luxury? Maybe then he would be able to see first-hand the suffering he is causing and might feel, I don't know, remorse or sympathy or those other emotions he should be able to feel.

http://struggle.ws/pdfs/war.pdf

WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR?
WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR?
WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR?
THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR.
THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR!

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy SJ,

There are folks joining to fight..instead of whining like the anti-wars do..I joined when I was 17..back in '76..were you in diapers back then..or just a gleam in yore daddy's eyes ? I tried to git back in,when DS1 went down,but I was still recovering from back surgery and they wouldn't let me back in..have you ever had the desire to fight for other folk's freedom ? Or do you just cling to your freedom and say to heck with those who do not have freedom ? That we should not interfere with their culture of brutal oppression ?

The only cowards here,are those who selfishly cling to their freedom and refuse to fight for other's freedom..the cowards are those who believe that if we appease the terrorists..that they will just fade back into the woodwork and give up their diabolical plans to destroy the Free World. Did you appease the school-yard bully,by givin him yer lunch money everyday ? Did he stop asking for your lunch money..? I doubt it .

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That was truly disgusting to read. Torog, I've read enough of your posts to know that what drives your desire for war is hatred for Islam, and I doubt your fooling many people trying to veil it as a desire to free the oppressed. You know, you might be more convincing if you could actually find a consistent argument for these wars. One second it's because the country isn't cooperating with the U.S.'s demands to get rid of their WMD's, the next it's because they might attack within 45 minutes, next it's to rid the world of terrorism in response to 9/11, and next it's to free the people of that country. Whenever one gets disproved or someone convinces you that you're wrong you just turn to another excuse.

If people could just realize who's really responsible for 9/11. That's the root of this whole thing and the official version as we know it is a lie... and there's tons of evidence to show it but most people don't care about the truth.

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WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR?
WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR?
WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR?
THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR.
THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR!

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THEY JOINED THE SERVICE
THEY JOINED THE SERVICE
THEY JOINED THE SERVICE
THEY JOINED THE SERVICE

LIBERALS DON'T USE REASON
LIBERALS DON'T USE REASON
LIBERALS DON'T USE REASON
LIBERALS DON'T USE REASON
LIBERALS DON'T USE REASON
LIBERALS DON'T USE REASON
LIBERALS DON'T USE REASON

It's always nice to see respectful openminded political debate that doesn't spiral into juvenile name calling and flag waving. Many people, liberal and conservative, don't use reason. Also, fighting in bullshit wars do not protect our freedoms, usually these wars just end up costing innocent lives on both sides and seriously curtailing our civil liberties (just look at the fucking mess we are in now) In my opinion, anyone who thinks the war in Iraq is a humanitarian crusade or meant to protect American values is naive and seriously mistaken. But, I also understand that my opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. Very few things in this world are as cut and dry, black and white, right or wrong as people make them out to be. It's easier to blindly support a political party and it's platform than to use one's own mind and think for herself. That's why we only have 2 candidates in most elections with any chance in hell of being elected. Too many people believe they must fit into either the dumbass Republican or dumbass Democratic mindset and blindly follow whatever their respective party proposes. More free thought and respect to others would also lead to a more rational voting base that could actually vote some 3rd party candidates into office. It's a damn shame that we only have 2 legitimate choices for our President. I think Bush is really horrible, but I also thought Kerry sucked equally badly. This is just one person's opinion.
P.S. If you don't agree with me, then you are a poo-poo head.

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Originally Posted by papaw

It's always nice to see respectful openminded political debate that doesn't spiral into juvenile name calling and flag waving. Many people, liberal and conservative, don't use reason. Also, fighting in bullshit wars do not protect our freedoms, usually these wars just end up costing innocent lives on both sides and seriously curtailing our civil liberties (just look at the fucking mess we are in now) In my opinion, anyone who thinks the war in Iraq is a humanitarian crusade or meant to protect American values is naive and seriously mistaken. But, I also understand that my opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. Very few things in this world are as cut and dry, black and white, right or wrong as people make them out to be. It's easier to blindly support a political party and it's platform than to use one's own mind and think for herself. That's why we only have 2 candidates in most elections with any chance in hell of being elected. Too many people believe they must fit into either the dumbass Republican or dumbass Democratic mindset and blindly follow whatever their respective party proposes. More free thought and respect to others would also lead to a more rational voting base that could actually vote some 3rd party candidates into office. It's a damn shame that we only have 2 legitimate choices for our President. I think Bush is really horrible, but I also thought Kerry sucked equally badly. This is just one person's opinion.
P.S. If you don't agree with me, then you are a poo-poo head.

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Wow. A reasonable, moderate, non-partisan, non-ideologically-based point of view. Who'd have thought that would ever happen here?

Nice one, papaw :D

hahaha,the chicken hawk smear.desperation stinks huh.

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

hahaha,the chicken hawk smear.desperation stinks huh.

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That didn't even make any sense. What the hell are you trying to say dude?

Barrels of OIL the US has gotten from Iraq to this date = 0..so greed takes a backseat

the oil argument is for simpletons.those who are unable to see a bigger picture beyond their nice dining rooms.(or basements of their moms house)

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the oil argument is for simpletons.those who are unable to see a bigger picture beyond their nice dining rooms.(or basements of their moms house)

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The oil argument is actually for anyone who isn't blindly following our nation's current regime. But hey, it seems like half of the nation are sheep anyway so we won't hold that against you. Peace.
P.S.: I'm out of grass so I've switched to the Jimmy Beam so don't take anything I say too seriously.