Myers: Release Of Abu Ghraib Prison Photos Could Cause Riots

well, not a very good sounding self analysis...i wonder what's so bad that would cause riots...let's not forget this:

[align=left]Editor and Publisher/Greg Mitchell | July 26 2005[/align]

[align=left]NEW YORK So what is shown on the 87 photographs and four videos from Abu Ghraib prison that the Pentagon, in an eleventh hour move, blocked from release this weekend? One clue: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Congress last year, after viewing a large cache of unreleased images: "I mean, I looked at them last night, and they're hard to believe.â?� They show acts "that can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel and inhumane," he added.[/align]




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Myers: Release Of Abu Ghraib Prison Photos Could Cause Riots


POSTED: 10:35 pm EDT August 12, 2005
UPDATED: 10:44 pm EDT August 12, 2005


NEW YORK -- The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff warns that releasing photos and videotapes of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison could have serious consequences.

Gen. Richard Myers contends in recently unsealed court documents that the release of such information would aid al-Qaida recruitment, weaken governments in Iraq and Afghanistan, and incite riots against U.S. troops.

The American Civil Liberties Union wants 87 photographs and four videotapes taken at the prison released as part of a lawsuit it filed in 2003.

The group is seeking information on the treatment of detainees in U.S. custody and about the transfer of prisoners to countries known to use torture.

"I mean, I looked at them last night, and they're hard to believe.â?� They show acts "that can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel and inhumane," he added.

grrr that is disgusting....

This is the kind of crap that gets our soldiers killed in revenge! I would think THAT would concern you more Blue!

I find it all revolting...I find the fact that we do not adhere to the geneva conventions anymore one of the greatest dangers to our troops!

and tapes that Seymour Hersh has of child rape are horrifying...why don't we hear anyomre about them?

It is all disgraceful.

Hell, let them release the tapes, pics the whole shot. When yours comes home in a body bag maybe you'll have a lil' change in heart!! There are somethings left unsaid until the game is done.

Why is it the release of the photos that would cause the riots and not the abuse itself?

That's a logic I don't understand.

good question bhallgh2!

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Originally Posted by bhallg2k

Why is it the release of the photos that would cause the riots and not the abuse itself?

That's a logic I don't understand.

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The release of the abuse caused insurgent uprisings...now why in the hell would a "sound minded person" want to remind these folk of what happened in the past AGAIN? Didn't piss em' off enough the first time? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

good question bhallgh2!

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Wasn't really that hard to figure out! :rolleyes:

The fact that their were humans being tortured like animals just escapes you...You can not possibly condone the sodomy of a child?

The administration tried to sell us on the â??few rotten applesâ?� theory. Soon we were hearing about the fact that Bush had actually asked for a legal justification for avoiding the Geneva Conventions. This means that our President planned of course, the very torture he would have us believe was the actions of a few rotten apples. During the initial days of this controversy, we had the comparison of these acts to a â??fraternity hazingâ?� by noted right wing radio personality Rush Limbaugh. Considering how much drugs Mr. Limbaugh has done, I guess we can excuse such stupidity. However, at that same time we had some prominent republicans downplaying the torture. Tom Delay suggested folks were overreacting. Senator James Inhofe, was more â??outraged about the outrageâ?�, dismissing the barbaric tactics.

I want to make sure we do not lose sight of this scandal. This is a lot more than we have seen. This is more than Lynndie England. This is more than piling up naked prisoners and smiling for the cameras. Reports now are that US troops and translators sodomized and raped Iraqi prisoners. Not just adults either, reports are that teenage boys were also sodomized. Prisoners were urinated on. Handcuffed prisoners were tossed from moving cars. Prisoners were made to eat food that was infested with bugs. Some prisoners died as a result of the torture. One such death was the result of a man being forced to jump off a bridge into the Tigris River.

I wish the story ends there, as bad as this is, but it does not. This is because the allegations now, are that children were involved. Between January and May of this year, the Red Cross says that 107 children were registered as detainees. One story is that an interrogation of a 15-year-old girl had to be broken up, even though at that point she was half undressed. Another one says that a 16-year-old boy was doused with cold water, driven through the cold, smeared with mud and presented to his father, who immediately broke down. Reporter Seymour Hersh, who broke the initial scandal, has seen the sodomy of these young children on videotape and he recalls vividly, the shrieking of these boys as they were being violated.

This story is out there and is being reported in every country except ours. It takes a periodical like Rolling Stone to have the guts to print it in the US. Can you imagine the clamor there would be if this had happened under Clinton? There would be congressional hearings, daily press conferences, and of course, impeachment proceedings. It is the middle of an election year, three months before the election and what do we hear, silence. Where is our media? Why is this not the lead story on every channel until we get some answers to the allegations that we TORTURED, RAPED AND SODOMIZED CHILDREN! Where is the outrage! Where are the talking heads! Isnâ??t this an important enough story to get to the bottom of before we go to the polls? Is this what we have come to in America? That the rape of children is not newsworthy if it may shine negatively upon our President. Do we care anymore about who we are as a people and what we are supposed to stand for? It is bad enough that some would believe that democracy is a concept that must be forced upon people, reducing it to figurative and political rape. Do we really need to add physical rape on top of it, look the other way, and ignore the shrieks of these children?

http://www.opednews.com/wade_080704_silence_torture.htm

Did I say it was right..HELL NO! They got the tapes and pics..let them convict the fucks that did it but DON'T release this shit while INNOCENT troops are still in harms way. How would you like your kid looking down the barrel of an AK with a mullah bitching about what happened. HE had nothing to do with it but it would cost his life! EXPOSING everything to the world while we have innocents in harms way is just ignorant!!!
What about Saddams torture chambers, YOU never post about them!

What about it? they are both wrong and bad for an election year.
Why do you always want to compare wrongs as if one is any better than the other?

it's doublethink.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

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What about it? they are both wrong and bad for an election year.
Why do you always want to compare wrongs as if one is any better than the other?

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Why do you always have to post about Americas wrong doings? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by pisshead

it's doublethink.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

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Damn, and I'll bet you found that one on pissplanet....

BWWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! :D

nope, nineteen eighty-four by george orwell...aka eric arthur blair.

http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell

but i really hope you were kidding...

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

The release of the abuse caused insurgent uprisings

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Only a fool would think that.

It wasn't the release of photos that caused any uprisings. It was the abuse they depicted.

Furthermore, everyone has a right to know the truth, regardless of the consequences. If you, or anyone else, doesn't like the consequences, maybe more should be done to make the truth more just.

I don't only post about US wrong doings I have posted about all G8...you are only offended by the US ones.

BTW both sides of this war should be reported including the torture. We live by rules and values, the rules are "no sadistic rape and torture" by any civilized nation and by trying to keep it quiet, you only allow it to continue...It has to be reported and the ones involved brought to trial.

Keeping it quiet for National security is just a bullshit line to get away with murder.

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Furthermore, everyone has a right to know the truth, regardless of the consequences. QUOTE]

Tell that to the kid that comes home without a leg because somebody got pissed off due to your right to see a fuckin picture!!

Pissed off due to my rights?

You idiot; they're pissed off about their countrymen BEING TORTURED!

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Originally Posted by bhallg2k

Pissed off due to my rights?

You idiot; they're pissed off about their countrymen BEING TORTURED!

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I'm the idiot? If you dig up old issues causing new hard feelings there can be additional attacks....your the one that needs to see the pics, right idiot! :D

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

I'm the idiot?

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Yes, you are.

You're supporting the false notion that the release of photos is going to incite violence. Well, I say if there was no abuse, there would be no pictures. It's that simple. Why not fight to stop the abuse rather than fight to supress the pictures? Or do you just not care that we, a "just and fair" nation, are doing such things? Aren't we supposed to be better than that?

You're so misguided.

And don't tell me that the terrorists will use this as a justification to attack U.S. troops. That's patently untrue. They'll use a fucking breeze as justification for their religious lunacy. They don't need the pictures. They don't need anything.

The government, excuse me, the administration just doesn't want its own ridiculous hypocrisy to be exposed.

I'm sure it could cause a riot I mean seriously how many more of these photo's are we going to cop! I mean it is totally outrages humane mother fuckers that obiviously don't have a flaming clue or any feeling of remorse! :eek: I'm sure this could cause a riot I just hope these people a brought to justice .... but it won't happen :mad: And I don't want to hear that they had to follow orders..that is certainly a bullshit excuse! :mad:

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And don't tell me that the terrorists will use this as a justification to attack U.S. troops. That's patently untrue. They'll use a fucking breeze as justification for their religious lunacy. They don't need the pictures. They don't need anything. .[/QUOTE]

They'll use a fucking breeze as justification but NOT the pics? Do me a favor, reach around and pull your head out of your ass!

[QUOTE=Psycho4Bud]

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And don't tell me that the terrorists will use this as a justification to attack U.S. troops. That's patently untrue. They'll use a f*cking breeze as justification for their religious lunacy. They don't need the pictures. They don't need anything. .[/QUOTE

They'll use a f*cking breeze as justification but NOT the pics? Do me a favor, reach around and pull your head out of your ass!

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Howdy Psycho4Bud,

Yeeehhhaaww !!! That's a big 10-4 ! Git em !

The true extent of the death and damage,when Pearl Harbor was attacked by the japs..was withheld from the public,because of the fear of an emotional over-reaction,until nearly the war's end. It's just plain common-sense to not rile up folks against our troops..their job and mission,is hard enuff already.

Releasing the pics is not about the truth..it's all about attacking Bush in complete disregard for our troop's safety. Al-Jazzera would take the photo's and videos and make a huge propaganda piece out of it,to turn those whom we are liberating,against our troops. Why these liberals can't understand that..is just another facet of the insanity of the liberal-mindset. In other words..they ain't got enuff sense..to pour warm piss out of a boot..lol.

Have a good one !

hearing ther left talk is disturbing,seeing bluecat type she wishes defeat upon our troops(including her son),and discussing assasination of the president(i think she is like 50 years old) is some of the most disturbing things i have seen so far.then when a person has a different opinion,they are attacked with nothing more than childish personal insults and vague threats of calling the police because i have violated some sort of international law.

how long is it until that 60's san francisco generation dies?god speed!

Lets see Hamster you were a juvenile deliguent that got busted for having a gun among other things...You are still A FELON and evidently did not learn a thing.

You can't even fucking vote.... You never will be able to vote. You are useless to society.

I have asked you many times what you do for a living Hamster...You are 25 and still a student? :rolleyes:


I am not going to bicker with you slack jaws all day today...it is a waste of time.

Don't talk about my kid....You lazy ass worthless cowards.

as if people over there don't already know about the torture and abuse at the prison camps...abu ghraib isn't the only one...

they just don't want people here to see these videos and pictures...then people might have to face something they don't want to.

the biggest lefty here is the fake conservative neo-con amsterdam.

who cant vote?hahaha?after serving my time and finishing my probation my record was exponged FOREVER!god bless good lawyers!

I work in the advertising department of a major hardware company.

stop disrespecting your kid moonbat.and yourself.

PH Hamster is not smart enough to understand the concept of "NeoCon"

He just keeps running in his little wheel and smiling at his perfect imaginary world.
Ignorance is bliss.

Really he even insults the wonderful town of Amsterdam.....Hamster fits so much better, don't you think?

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who cant vote?hahaha?after serving my time and finishing my probation my record was exponged FOREVER!god bless good lawyers!

I work in the advertising department of a major hardware company.

stop disrespecting your kid moonbat.and yourself.

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HAHAHA then JOIN the FUCKING service if your record was "esponged." FOREVER :rolleyes:

You are so full of shit.

perhaps to a person that knows nothing of the law and how it works.so sorry.

perhaps because i am nowhere near a neo-con,never said i was a neo-con,never will be a neo-con.HELLO.

sure thing,but listening to a women who lives off disability and works at home as an "artist" tell me i am worthless brings a smile to my face.leach.

you should join sheehan down in crawford or be quiet ,thats the line of attack you prefer.or keep talking with 14 year olds about killing the president(wich is a violation of international law).its a noble cause,and a losing one.

i really enjoy all the attention i get from the loony left on this site,i must be doing something right.its my opinion that if i talk to a lefty and they dont leave mad or disgusted,i have failed.

he's not a neo-con, he just votes for them and supports them...amsterdam is the loony left.

sure thing pissy,i am the loony left,keep telling yourself that.thanx for all the attention anyway(even though i am on your ignore list).

spoken like a true neo-con.

sure thing,but listening to a women who lives off disability and works at home as an "artist" tell me i am worthless brings a smile to my face.leach.

sorry you are wrong. No disability check here. I have MS but I make it on my own.
I do work from home doing research for Mössbauer so you are wrong again but you should be use to this by now...

You seem to have a problem with art teachers...it is art history BTW.
Could it be you are having a hard time in school?
Maybe you don't get in enough "Volenteer" time. :rolleyes

Bottom line: You just got caught up in another lie... if you can vote you can serve.
I really don't want to spend my day debating whether or not your record was erased or if you are a lying felon.....oh yeah I'll lose sleep over it. :rolleyes:

Go play roulette with your little gun collection and do the world a favor.

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spoken like a true neo-con.

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Anybody that doesn't follow your fucked up Pissplanet is a neo-con. I personally would be honored to be in that catagory from you!! :D

nope, wrong again. perhaps you should read ron paul's speech entitled "neo-conned"...