Why Med MJ is opposed by Federal Govt.

I recently saw an episode of Montel Williams wherein he descirbes his personal use of medical MJ and at the end of the show he expressed his disbelief and lack of undestanding of why the federal govt will not or can not legalize medical pot use for pain and suffering.

The answer is really quite clear and as usual is best explained via the "follow the money" approach. The US drug industry (big Pharma in stock market terms) is one of the biggest lobbying groups in the world. Notice the effect they have on any attemtps to lower the costs of the drugs they manufacture.(they regularly lie about Canadian drugs being possibly unsafe to re-import even though they themselves produced the drugs in the same factory and machines that the overpriced US available drugs came from) They contribute vast amounts of money to the relection campiagns of federal legislators and supply these same legislators with misleading and indeed outright false information regarding marijuana. They do this to protect their own monopoly on what is the biggest business today and certainly in the near future, the pain med business.

The Alcohol production industry also plays this game to protect their own business interests. After all they are in the "intoxicant" business, are they not? The availability of an alternative intoxicant (that they do not control the manufaturs and distibution of) is their worst nightmare.

If (and only if) the feds and Big Pharma and/or Big Alcohol can find a way for MJ to be controlled and monopolized by Big Business will MJ become legal in any form. This is highly unlikely because MJ is so easily produced by regular citizens at home. Just try to make your own Vicodin or morphine derivitives. For that matter it is even difficult (and dangerous) to make your own alcohol at home. (although not illegal)

The day after someone figures out how to give big industry interests the ability to have a monopoly over MJ production and distribution is the day MJ will be on the way to becoming legal. (and it will happen with amazing speed)

think about it,
Max Blast

in georgia once a month,14 people receive their own govt. grown nugs.

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Originally Posted by Max Blast

I recently saw an episode of Montel Williams wherein he descirbes his personal use of medical MJ and at the end of the show he expressed his disbelief and lack of undestanding of why the federal govt will not or can not legalize medical pot use for pain and suffering.

The answer is really quite clear and as usual is best explained via the "follow the money" approach. The US drug industry (big Pharma in stock market terms) is one of the biggest lobbying groups in the world. Notice the effect they have on any attemtps to lower the costs of the drugs they manufacture.(they regularly lie about Canadian drugs being possibly unsafe to re-import even though they themselves produced the drugs in the same factory and machines that the overpriced US available drugs came from) They contribute vast amounts of money to the relection campiagns of federal legislators and supply these same legislators with misleading and indeed outright false information regarding marijuana. They do this to protect their own monopoly on what is the biggest business today and certainly in the near future, the pain med business.

The Alcohol production industry also plays this game to protect their own business interests. After all they are in the "intoxicant" business, are they not? The availability of an alternative intoxicant (that they do not control the manufaturs and distibution of) is their worst nightmare.

If (and only if) the feds and Big Pharma and/or Big Alcohol can find a way for MJ to be controlled and monopolized by Big Business will MJ become legal in any form. This is highly unlikely because MJ is so easily produced by regular citizens at home. Just try to make your own Vicodin or morphine derivitives. For that matter it is even difficult (and dangerous) to make your own alcohol at home. (although not illegal)

The day after someone figures out how to give big industry interests the ability to have a monopoly over MJ production and distribution is the day MJ will be on the way to becoming legal. (and it will happen with amazing speed)

think about it,
Max Blast

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good post and i agree with that ,it is big bussiness that does not want it
if people where educated to the facts and not the bullshit lies the goverment puts out to get funds for their backers agenda's
we would have no stupid laws against medical use,and probly not agianst adult consumption,who knows what the next elections DEAL will be
we will see
peace

This is what happens when your society is structured so that those who are most persistent about pursuing money are the ones who end up with the most power.

Down with capitalism!

ermitonto,

The fact is that capitalism is the very worst system ever ... that is until you compare it to all the others! It then becomes clear that it is by far the very best system.

Even in the communist system it was those in the persuit of money that ended up with all the power. It is just the human condition. Best to accept the reality and do your best to have a good, productive and happy life regardless of the system in place at the time.

regards,
Max Blast

The "communism" you speak of is not what I am advocating. I refuse to idly accept the status quo when there are other systems which have been shown to work better. In the Spanish Civil War, there were hundreds of communes which had achieved real socialism, that is, nobody was subordinate to anyone else in the workplace, and production was geared toward meeting the needs of the community rather than the needs of the dollar (money had even been abolished in many areas). See http://www.anarchistfaq.de/secA5.html and http://www.anarchistfaq.de/secCcon.html for more info.

It is not the "human condition" to pursue money. For 99% of humanity's existence, money didn't even exist. In fact, society was based on cooperation, not competition. If you hunted food and your other tribe members didn't, you would share your food with them. You wouldn't hoard the food up and use it to get others to do your bidding.

capitalism isn't too bad.... i am blazed right now

Ermitonto,

Even in societies which, on the surface, appear to not have the use of "Money" the persuit of "wealth" is indeed the human condition.

Take for example the case of African tribal societies in which marraiges are negotiated to the extent that the groom "pays" for the hand of his bride by giving her family a certain number of cattle or goats. While proponents of anti-capitalism will point to those particular societies as "having no money at all" the fact is that the cattle and/or goats "are" money. In fact the persons who persue the increase of their herds population end up being the persons in that society who have the most influence or "power". They do not just "share" their wealth with those who choose not to work.

The fact that a few very small communities have "appeared" to get along without money is not proof that that system will work for very large groups over a very long period of time. (where are those Spanish communes now?) That has NEVER been the case at any time during human existance no matter how romantic the concept may seem. Indeed capitalism in the US demonstrates far more compasionate use of wealth than any of the anrachistic or "communal" economic systems ever have.

Supporters of "anarchistic views" are at best very naive and at worst just downright ignorant and distructive to the progress of any society. Just proclaiming "I'm anti-everything" is not a productive stance but intstead just an excuse not to participate in improving the status quo.


just my views from a liftime of observation,

Max Blast

im surprised at how even grow adults can be so naive. they believe everything the government and tv ads tell them. they even use children. can you believe it? children as krutch. "make sure yours kids don't use pot" that shit makes me sick. government corruption si a fucking sad thing in society. i wish someone would bring it to the public's attention someway, somehow. good post though. i agree totally with you. matter of fact, i had to do a debate on legalizing marijuana and i brought something about this up. we need to change this now. if marijuana wer legalized, it would end alot of povery in 3rd world countries. think about it. jamaica, mexico. if it were legalized, it could be exported here and families would be making money. it's so stupid. i wish america would wisen up. until then, i've always got my weedman. tokesup

tupac

very nice essay there MAX BLAST!

I think it makes a really nice one page handout.

I suggest that kind stoners make copies, and look for little old ladies at the grocery store to give em to.

maybe you'll meet a really nice little old lady who loves to garden, and needs some help and some medical marijuana.

go over to her house, and mow the lawn, and then after you've shared a joint or two, ask her if she'd like to grow her own medicine
that way you both win, she gets her medicine, and you made a new friend.

I'm telling ya, little old ladies make the best gardeners!

WE use to buy cannabis in mexico back in the 1940 and 1956/7 till the U S gov. started to spary it with bad shit and it was FOOD for them and every one... and they U S Gov. killed off a lot of people back then!!!! Just because it was Food... and THEY called it DOPE...

well max, I'm no expert on government but can't the feds just issue a law that states regular citizens can not grow Marijuana in their own homes? Doing this would would rid the world of all the controversy about MJ at the very least: it's legal, as long as it's certified to be in pure innocuous form.

Laws already exist that prohibit cultivation in one's own home. You can see how well that works. :smokin:

Micro-grows are virtually undetectable if done correctly.

BTW .. it is not illegal to make your own booze as long as you do not sell it to anyone or give it away to minors. (it is even legal to sell homemade alcohol as motor fuel if you first contaminate it in such a way as to make it not fit for human consumption) You will run into problems with the smells if you operate your own still. Have any of you ever heard of "Bathtub Gin"?

regards,
Max Blast

Its not dangerous to make your own Alchohol at home, Can you say Microbrewers? And Moonshine isnt dangerous at all, its only dangerous when idiots use Radiators to condensate the alchohol, this is where people get lead poisoning which makes people blind. And not all moonshine is illega. There are several US Moonshiners that have a legal business selling moonshine.

Bathtub Gin isnt making alchohol, its just Diluting Alchohol already made with stuff people shouldnt be ingesting

your a very smart man Max Blast. soemtime when im not blazed outa my head, we should have a conversation about something. peace man.

I agree entirely. There's also one other thing to consider: people hate changing the status quo. The American public is afraid of change in general; no matter how good or bad things are right now, people at least know how they work, and with change, you lose even that.

You see it in all areas of law and business. So, you're right. Big business is and always has been the big anti-marijuana force, but the people aren't doing much to change things either-- they're just to easily manipulated by fear of change.