SALVIA

ok the real deal....whos done it and actualy triped out? i have seen a perpetual couch of elderly people falling into emptyness and slowly faded back to reality... i wrote a deacent expanaiton of one salvia trip:I inhaled one breath full and held it in for about 20 seconds. I was lying on my bed on my side, and as soon as I exhaled, I felt pressure all around, as if I was under a hundred of feet of water. Then, suddenly, I popped into ground-zero reality, the right side of my body opened up and I connected down through the bed, through the floor and foundation of the house into some immense planetary network, teaming with a multitude of various types consciousness and intelligence. There was a definite sense of other beings around me. I noticed that I was a gravity well, sucking all sound and light around me into a vortex that had formed in the cusp of my curled body. I was channeling everything back into the nebulae that I had contacted, I was a receptor and realized that we all are. We as humans are mere sense organs for the planet. My consciousness then flattened and spread, like dough under a rolling pin. It then began to separate into 5 distinct autonomous portions, each one a completely separate and full version of myself. I experienced them all simultaneously. At this point I kind of freaked, not expecting such a drastic shift in perception. I thought, "this is way too much! I wasn't expecting to dissolve and break apart like this!". I opened my eyes and sat up. Optic ballets of light and various shapes danced everywhere around my room, it was alive. I noticed that all matter is conscious. I could hear my heart beating. I got up and almost fell over, which surprised me, I didn't realize it would have a physical affect as well. It seemed that I weighed 500lbs and my arms were 12 feet long. I made it to the kitchen and got a drink of water, then went and laid back down and entered a trance for what seemed like 20 minutes. My consciousness and physical body began twisting and stretching like some bizarre silly putty being pulled though a cosmic taffy machine. I had visions of lives playing out, representing the whole of human experience, love, war, riot and everything in between. I could clearly see my entire biological history, the chain of life. I had somehow accessed my genetic and cellular memory. All of my ancestors were present, then I realized that they always are, I just can't always perceive them. I saw how potentiality becomes reality by force of will, that thought IS matter. And I am dead serious when I say this, the actual physical world around us, meaning even the floor you are standing on, or the toilet you are pissing into, is created by a consensus of thought emanating from our multi-dimensional selves, vibrating at varying speeds, creating first the sub-atomic particles, which then combine and grow, and combine and grow, and on and on until we have atoms, molecules, proteins, single-celled organisms, complex organisms, and finally the human and it's large brain, which can re-access the cellular, molecular and sub-atomic memories, commune with the just-out-of-perception logos and realize it's place in the continuum of existence that we ourselves created in the first place. When I "woke up" from this lucid dream-like state, I saw that about an hour had passed. The time compression was pronounced, and was very strange, it really only seemed that twenty minutes at most had passed.I was surprised that I felt nearly 100% normal. It was an amazing and beautiful experience, despite the shock of it all.but all friends say salvia dosn't even effect them

ne one els have some expearinces they wana share or questions about salvia divinorum, please feel free to post :cool:

nubie420, just checked out the website about salvia that you recommended and found that not all people respond to salvia. Also, I don't think I could smoke as much as they recommend in 3-4 minutes. Besides those things, it said to hold the hits for 20-30 seconds and I think I would pass out after longer than 20 seconds. My questions are: How many times did you smoke before you tripped? How much do you smoke and how long does it take you? I think I'll give it another chance...where do you get yours?

I have smoked salvia before, but didnt get the full effect. The best way to get a trip off of salvia is to not smoke or drink anything the day you feel like tripping. Get an enormously HUGE bong bowl, and put that in a 1 gal. gravity bong. And since salvia activates under extreme heat, light the WHOLE bowl up with a couple of lighters, and try to get the WHOLE bowl cashed into the gravity bong. Take the FAT rip and hold it in for 30 seconds. THese steps are what get you the hallucinations at the Full potential. Ive never done it myslef but ive seen it, and its fuckin hilarious. My friend did exactly just what i said, and he got blown into an alternate dimension, so he says, and from my point of view, its very much so possible! If you dont do exactly this method, you wont get the full potential of Salvia.

what about hotknifing? u can get those pretty damn hot... blowtorch hehe

did you all use salvia extract or just the salvia. If so what potency did you use (5x, 10x, etc.)

When I smoked salvia the very second the pipe was pulled away from my lips I didn't know what had happened to me, and I started laughing and I got trapped in this laugh that would never end... Then it seemed like all my friends were houses and the coffee table was a street. I started calling the cat by my brother's name. It was pretty cool but a little scary too.

Salvia isn't a recreational drug, treat her as such and she'll either show you nothing, or take a big bite out of your psyche, just to let you know who's boss. Treat her as a shamanic tool, with respect, for seeking answers though, and she'll show you more than most other hallucinogens. There's a sense of 'contact' with salvia that I've only ever experienced with one other plant hallucinogen (DMT - the daddy), the trips can involve both travel to other realms and communication with other 'beings', not all of whom are benevolent.


I can't stress enough, it sounds attractive, but it's not a toy, not for recreation - the physical sensations can be VERY unpleasant, prickly skin, profuse sweating (I normally smoke it just wearing boxer shorts, cos coming out of a salvia trip into clothing literally soaked through with sweat isn't pleasant), you may move around while tripping (and when you trip on salvia you're in another reality, with no awareness of your actual surroundings) so you can injure yourself (you may also come out of it in wierd positions - I've come back to reality kneeling prostrate on the floor like some worshipper bowing at the feet of God - which given the nature of the experience is exactly what I had been doing, maybe not actually God, but definitely something resembling a deity). You may come out of the trip & recall absolutely nothing, or have memories you want to forget but can't. You may come out of it feeling more frightened than you ever have before, but with no idea why cos you can't remember the trip. Salvia is POWERFUL medicine - if you want a recreational trip, something that alters your perception & makes everything go wibbly wobbly or just plain daft, stick to cough mixture, salvia's for the big boys (& girls). Even if you consider yourself an experienced acid head, still treat salvia with care, it may only last ten minutes, but IMHO salvia makes acid look like childs play (and I reckon I've done enough acid in my time to make that judgement).

I smoked some 10x extract with some friends and hit me harder and more intensely that any drug I've ever done. This may change when i try DMT though.

What is Saliva I have never herd of it before??

http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml

The people who don't respond don't do enough. Salvia is weird-you can smoke and smoke and nothing happens... them whazzam. It is very powerful stuff. My friend lying on a bed watched his legs get up and walk all over the room-fllor, walls and ceilings. You also feel like you're in syrup-gravity feels stronger-it actually feels a lot like being very stoned-like when you haven't had any weed for a few weeks, your resistance has gone, and then you smoke loads.

where can i get a free sample at? i really wanna try this...
what about smoking the leaves, they sell them on ebay. what is the extract?

i tried it. its fuckin nutz man. no way to explain it. you gotta rip it outta a fat bong. thats what i did and i went crazy. it was intense. i started sweating a lot tho. but deffinately a DIFFERENT trip out session.

It is crazy stuff. Did you smoke the leaves? You should try some 10x or 15x stuff-its the most powerfully ive ever been effected by a drug, and I've done a fair few. Here in the UK you can order live Salvia plants from some guy in Scotland-definately going to try growing some, and completely legal as well.

Being as most of the dealers in my area are getting busted lately, I've been looking into alternative highs. Seeing as Salvia is legal, it got my attention. I've never really really tripped before and am extremely interested in trying this. Only I've read that if you are trying it for the first time you should use a 1X extract. From every site I've checked out, I've haven't found one that sells this. Anyone have any advice for a first timer? What should I start off with, what preparations should be made... etc.?

Saliva is one of the best highs I've ever had. I've been smoking it for a long time. A lot of people say they can't get high off it. Not true, just takes a little practice because you smoke it a little different then pot. Here's some tips:

1. It doesn't take much if you have at least 5x fortified leaves. One bowl or less.
2. Use a pipe or bong. Don't waste your time rolling it.
3. Take the smoke in fast and hold it for a REALLY long time. (the active ingredient has to get to your lungs fast and stay there a while)
4. Take three hits one after another. (Take a hit, breath, take another hit and so on)
5. You should be there after that.
6. Smoke it in a quiet secluded place (nighttime at the park for me) with few people. Donâ??t talk and just focus on some object.
7. Salvia has quick turnaround. Hits you in a couple of minutes and is done within a 1/2 hour.

That's all it takes. I never smoke plain leaves, only 5X, plain leaves are too weak. And I swear it's awesome. I've seen leaves melt, honestly felt like I was transcending space and time, hovered above my body, and swore once I morphed into a wolf and walked through the forest. Very cool, though expensive, but a little goes a long way with this stuff. :p

you really need the extract if you're gonna smoke it, but then you don't need much. Get one of those blowtorch lighters, and take the biggest, hottest bong hit you can muster, and hang on. I completely agree that it should not be treated as recreational, it should be treated with respect and strangth of mind. It helps to meditate before taking it- remind yourself that the things you are about to experience are just there to open your mind, and they will. haven't tried this yet, but for the brave among you, there's the option of chewing a quid of fresh leaves rolled up and thrown in your lip. that's how the real shamans do it, so i wouldn't try it till i reached that level of awareness.

peace

:( I'm not too big on quids. They can taste pretty bitter and take longer to work. Sometimes they're weaker too, but that may just have been the ones I had. On a side note, I smoked some last night with a friend and watched him walk around my yard holding the hand of some imaginary/invisible person. Turn out it was a leprechaun named Ralph. What can I say, my friend's got quite an imagination. :rolleyes:

WOW this sounds pretty damn crazy yet awesome, what's the average price / dose for it?

Pretty expensive compared to pot. $20 to $30 a gram. I buy 5X fortified leaves on the internet, 2 grams for around $36. You got to be careful, a lot of websites sell crap stuff or charge WAY too much. If you're paying $30+ for a single gram you're getting ripped off.

A word of warning; If you shopping for fortified leaves the initial shock of how small a bag you're getting for the price may turn you off. But it's well worth it because salvia has an afterglow that can last weeks sometimes. I usually smoke a bowl or less on a Friday night and ride the euphoric feeling till the next weekend rolls around.

Not much else I can say. I don't know the going rate for just plain leaves, I only smoke fortified leaves and I stick with 5X. They sell 7X, 10X, and even stronger, but to me 5X is more than strong enough. The other stuff is just a waste of money and the higher the X-factor, the crappier it burns.

My buddy is selling it at $12 a gram for 5x and its $40 for 5 grams. On his site he sells 5x, 10x and 15x extracts of Salvia as well as Salvia leaf and other herbs. It's the cheapest I've seen on the net and he's giving away 10 grams of leaf with every purchase of extract 4g and under and 30 grams for above that. Check out his site at http://www.salviadistrict.info and enter SP041016PC to get a $2.00 on extracts.

As for dose, it depends on the strength of the extract. But usually for 5x extract it's just 1/4g for a strong dose. As you get higher extracts the dose goes down considerably for strong effects.

Is it safe to order salvia ?

Just read on erowids that it is legal as of now.. how much should i get to get 2 people tripping and what's the best way of smoking it?

The best way of smoking Salvia is through a water pipe and using a torch lighter. Make sure you use a screen though, otherwise the salvia will pull through too early. If you use a torch lighter, make sure you use a water pipe as the smoke will be very hot.

For two people tripping, you can use about 1/4g each of 5x extract. 10x extract is about 1/8g. Hope this helps.

Water pipe is best or hand pipe too, just don't waste your time rolling it. You can order as much as you want over the web without any problems BUT do your research. I don't trust the erowid websites. Though, it could just be my conspiracy theory side or paranoia acting up.

Also don't trust anyone that sells salvia for way too cheap or way too expensive. It's been my experience that either way you're getting ripped off. No offense to anyone.

Like I said, just do your research and look for as many different sources and websites as possible.

I didn't but my thoughts where incredibley stupid. so in a way yes. but that was a while ago so i dont know if i would again. It was like an extreme cigarrette buzz for me. I thought i was the big black lady from i think the Jeffersons, on a game show. For about ten seconds. I came up with the whole situation while starring at the ground

I thought I made a new thread accidentily.

when i smoked that the first time i thought i was on an affrican saffari or in a dessert and the wall was talking to me. the second time i thought i was in the wizard of oz back home in kansas and i felt i was gripping something in my hand really tightly but could not figure out what it was for about 3 min then finally i relized it was just my ligher. that was all about 4/5 months ago and i still got about 2 more trips left from my half gram of 10x extract i bought, but i haven't felt up to it.

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I have a friend that did Heroin for maney years and he did SALVIA at lest that what he said one night he said that he Traveled some place and was talking to others beings for about 4-5 hours it scard him real bad then he when to sleep for about 8 hours got up that has been about 18 years ago and he has not had any herion from that day since and he has a new look on live.

He was in africa at the time he did it SALVIA a shaman give it to him it could have been
[ DMT ] I'm not up to speed on this and like it has been 18 years. as I recall he said they both smoked it.

wow thats a beauty.