Hey guys i found this great link with a video that automatically loads. Take it as you want.
BTW i didnt get this from alex jones.
http://www.ericblumrich.com/right.html
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Hey guys i found this great link with a video that automatically loads. Take it as you want.
BTW i didnt get this from alex jones.
http://www.ericblumrich.com/right.html
That was really good. I love that website!
LOL Damn glad of that!! Thanks for the laugh!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
Film was gooooood, watched the whole thing.....but....here's a little rebuttle. :D
Scientist unearths Iraq's n-plan papers
WASHINGTON JUNE 26. A former Iraqi nuclear scientist has provided American authorities parts and documents from Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons programme from over 12 years ago, a U.S. intelligence official said on Wednesday.
The scientist, Mahdi Shukur Obeidi, said he had kept the parts buried in his garden at his Baghdad home on the orders of Mr. Hussein's Government, according to the intelligence official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Once sanctions against Iraq ended, the material was to be dug up and used to reconstitute a programme to enrich uranium to make a nuclear weapon, Mr. Obeidi claimed.
U.S. authorities believe Mr. Obeidi's statements are credible, and they are regarded as evidence that Iraq made an effort to hide parts of its original programmes from U.N. inspectors.
Still, the intelligence official acknowledged the find was not the ``smoking gun'' that U.S. authorities are seeking to prove the Bush administration's claims that Iraq had an active programme to develop a nuclear weapon.
Before the 1991 Gulf War, Mr. Obeidi headed Iraq's programme to make centrifuges that would enrich uranium for nuclear weapons, the official said. Most or all of that programme was dismantled after U.N. inspections in the early 1990s. â?? AP
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/2003/0...2703261400.htm
Trying to use different sources...LOL...here's one for ya!
Online edition of India's National Newspaper :D
And Heeeeere's another. :D
WASHINGTON -- A suspected mobile biological weapons lab has been recovered in northern Iraq, a development that senior U.S. officials said Tuesday would lend support to Bush administration claims of a banned weapons program by the government of deposed Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.
A senior administration official said the Pentagon will announce today the results of a two-week investigation into a tractor-trailer truck stolen from a government depot in the northern Iraqi town of Mosul and later handed over to U.S. forces. He said equipment found on the truck included a fermenter bolted to the floor that could be used for the production of biological agents.
The official said the truck and the equipment inside it had been cleaned with bleach and therefore did not show any identifiable residue of biological agents. But intelligence analysts have concluded that "there doesn't seem to be any legitimate use for it, other than as a biolab."
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/trib.../s_133149.html
And another. :eek:
THIS PAST MARCH 25 in the packed Palestine Chamber of Commerce hall, those in attendance emitted a collective, audible gasp in response to this very special announcement: Iraqi president Saddam Hussein will henceforth pay $25,000 apiece to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. This represents a significant increase over the traditional "going rate" of $10,000 designed to help entice the rest of Yasser Arafatâ??s legendary "million martyrs" to volunteer for their own glorious suicidemurders. After the announcement was made, the men at the head table proceeded to call out the names of fortyseven recent "martyrs," whose surviving relatives then proudly stepped forward to sign for their checks. With these payments, Saddamâ??s cumulative intifadaera contributions to the families of Palestinian terrorists eclipsed the $10 million mark.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=1309
Here we go. The same folk that was found dirty as a pig in the "Food for Oil" program. Pay attention to what they were after. Dismantalling all resolutions. Keep in mind, he had the mobile labs and a nuclear scientist with a green thumb for nuclear prints.
The 75-member delegation of anti-sanctions activists set off with the blessing of the French government and was given a hero's welcome by Iraqi officials at the newly re-opened Saddam International Airport in Baghdad. Paris "notified" the United Nations committee overseeing sanctions on Thursday night, but pointedly did not request permission.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...23/wiraq23.xml
Let us not forget the Kurds:
Saddam Hussein is the first world leader in modern times to have brutally used chemical weapons against his own people. His goals were to systematically terrorize and exterminate the Kurdish population in northern Iraq, to silence his critics, and to test the effectiveness of his chemical and biological weapons. Hussein launched chemical attacks against 40 Kurdish villages and thousands of innocent civilians in 1987-88, using them as testing grounds. The worst of these attacks devastated the city of Halabja on March 16, 1988.
Halabja Casualties
5,000 civilians, many of them women, children, and the elderly, died within hours of the attack. 10,000 more were blinded, maimed, disfigured, or otherwise severely and irreversibly debilitated.
Thousands died of horrific complications, debilitating diseases, and birth defects in the years after.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/18714.htm
More Kurdish news:
In 1988 "Chemical Ali" was captured on a tape describing his plans for the Kurds to a group of senior Iraqi officials.
"I will kill them all with chemical weapons! Who is going to say anything? The international community? F*** them, the international community, and those who listen to them!
"I will not attack them with chemicals just one day, but I will continue to attack them with chemicals for 15 days."
http://old.krg.org/docs/articles/sco...lali-aug03.asp
Must take a break....to many sites....need weed!!!
And what about the Shi'ites?
On Thursday, volunteers said after 10 days of digging that about 3,100 sets of remains of people killed after the 1991 Shiite revolt had been found at Mahaweel, 60 miles south of Baghdad. Iraqis said some had apparently been buried alive at the site, the largest mass grave found since U.S. forces overthrew Saddam's Baath party government last month.
http://www.iraqfoundation.org/news/2...massgrave.html
And the list goes on:
Forensic investigators have been studying a mass grave in Iraq for clues to the occupants. They have concluded that those buried were Kurdish. The colorful garb was one hint, and some of the dead still carried their identification cards, which served as confirmation. 63% of the estimated 1500 victims were teenagers and children, according to investigators. They appear to have been killed by bursts of gunfire.
http://www.atsnn.com/story/137533.html
More on mass graves:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Saddam Hussein's government is believed to have buried as many as 300,000 opponents in 263 mass graves that dot the Iraqi landscape, the top human rights official in the U.S.-led civilian administration said Saturday.
Sandy Hodgkinson said the administration has been sending forensic teams to investigate those grave sites reported to U.S. officials. So far, the existence of about 40 graves has been confirmed.
"We have found mass graves with women and children with bullet holes in their heads," she said.
http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/680
My point to all this? It's pretty evident that Sadamm was complete evil and had to be removed. After reading all this, I don't see how anyone could feel any different! :rolleyes:
I easily feel different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Saddam was never the worst cat on the block (see: Osama bin Laden, Kim Jong Il, Umar Hassan Ahmad al-Bashir, etc). Nor was he ever the most threatening to the United States (see: Osama bin Laden, Kim Jong Il, etc).
This war was for U.S. economic and political gain, pure and simple.
I suppose...if you're not Kurdish, Shi'ite, or Jewish, why should we give a fuck? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by bhallg2k
When didn't care while they were being slaughtered. Only now, after the fact. We didn't care when Pinochet, Milosevic, et al were committing genocide. We don't care about the tens of thousands being killed in Darfur or the hundreds of thousands being killed in East Timor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
What makes Iraqis better than them?
It's not what we're doing that's totally wrong. It's our motivation and our hypocrisy. Not to mention the lies that got us there.
Pinochet: Arrested by the British on a case started in Spain.Quote:
Originally Posted by bhallg2k
Milosevic: Ousted by the U.N.
Darfar: Aren't the French suppose to be handling this one? Go figure!!! :mad:
East Timor: Islamic terrorists roving in gangs killing Christians....by the way, the Australians are signing new oil deals with East Timor... :confused:
Iraq: France, Germany, Russia, and China dirty palms from "Food for Oil"
WE'RE in it for the oil? The U.N. and associates took down other world leaders that have no oil but France, Russia, Germany, and China wanted Sadamm left alone for the OIL! THIER companies in Iraq, THIER dirty deals with Sadamm. Now the U.S. and Great Britian are the bad guys cause we take down Sadamm? Why? :confused:
I think you're missing my point.
The U.S. did nothing to stop any other acts of atrocity around the world, even if it meant going against the will of the larger global community like we did in Iraq. Meaning, if France/the U.N. is failing in Darfur/East Timor, why haven't we intervened? We intervened when it was said that sanctions failed in Iraq. And why didn't we stop Pinochet and Milosevic before they finished killing millions of people? What made them so special as to allow the outsourcing of their rescue? I mean, we couldn't just leave Iraq to the U.N.
Speaking of rescue, the U.S. actually did very, very little to stop the acts of atrocity Saddam committed against his own people; we came in way after the fact. And besides Iraq nowadays isn't exactly the bastion of freedom it was supposed to be after Saddam was toppled. We're told again and again that it's going to take time. But when? And why is it getting worse?
(Off the point, but still important: where's all that oil money that was supposed to finance Iraqi recontruction? Why are we still paying for it? And why do those expenditures not show up in the budgets submitted to Congress?)
Beyond that, the original rationale for invasion was that Saddam was a grave threat to our own national security. That has been proven false and moreover it has been shown that the Bush administration actively falsified the intelligence used to make that argument to the world and most importantly, to American citizens. I believe that if a Democrat had done the same thing, not only would he have been impeached, I would've wholeheartedly supported it. I will not abide lethal lying by any chief executive, regardless of their political affiliation. This isn't just Bush-bashing.
I said this was about politics and economics, not oil specifically. Do I think W. wants all the oil in Iraq? No. But he does want a large U.S. role in the region for so-called "stability?" Absolutely. Is it worth American lives? It's debatable. But I say no, it's not. There are far safer, better and more noble ways to decrease our dependency on foreign oil.
However, I must say that if any president truly decides he or she wants to spread democracy to oppressed peoples around the world - not just the places where American economic interests are at stake - I will be the first one the join the fight. That is just and noble and worth lives, including my own. It's also something that could bring back the greatness of America in the eyes of the world.