WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THESE CHILD M0LETERS/KILLERS

I started this thread becuz of the recent issues regarding children in the news being kidnapped/raped/murdered. i'm a 40yr father of 4 boys ages 6-17 & would like to hear from people who are 1.parents 2.victims of sexual abuse either present or past. i spent 7yrs of my life in prison for a drug related offense that opened my eyes to alot of injustice in this soceity. i used to think that rapests & molesters got beat up/killed in prison, this is not so & anyone who has done time please comment, but soon learned that they are coveted in prison. in michigan they have some 72 correctional facilities. i've been in 3 of the nastiest most violent ones & learned alot, but there are 12 of them with CSC(criminal sexual conduct) populations exceeding the 87%. does the public really know how bad this is getting? how about you guys? i was sexually assaulted as a young boy by a catholic preist, but have taken on the attitude of disgust/hatred towards anyone who would harm children. unfortunately child molesters breed child molesters(92% were victims as kids) so i was a minority, but do the math; if a tree-jumper(CSC) assaulted 10 kids, lets say only 1/2 went on to do the same how long is it going to take in order for them to spread like malaria & start taking over public offices/legislation/a.m.a./BAR/teaching? got to love texas in this regard, repeat offenders must have chemical castration, personally this is way too lenient, but it's still the only state that even considers this a growing epidemic that needs to be dealt with. i have personally hurt as many as i could while incarcerated, but now i learned that this is not my place on this planet, these people WILL meet their maker one day & will pay for it then, BUT we need not turn our backs on our countrys' future(children) by just letting God take care of it. we must be proactive & provide a safe enviroment for the children if this means everyone should be calling their state rep. & screaming so be it. i personally would be the first person to bond out the guy who molested my children(if you know what i mean) i also know the system enuff to follow one to his death in that system. sorry for rambling but i feel this is worse than fighting terrorism outside our borders, DAMN IT! we're talking our kids here! r

Howdy trippruss,

My daughter,was molested by a bisexual pedophile,when she was only 5 years old. For a very long time,I wanted to hunt em down and kill him slow..sadly,he's my adopted sister's brother,which complicated everything. I had him thrown in jail for 3 years,and it's sad,that our justice system,couldn't have put him away longer. I was very fortunate that the court allowed my daughter to give a video-taped statement,rather than face her accuser in court and being traumatized even more. I'm very sad that you went through what you did,and I share your pain,anger and frustration.

I believe that there needs to be a national registry for sex-offenders and that they should be dealt with severely and that they should not ever be allowed to git bail..or at least set the bail so high,that they can't git out and do what that feller did in Idaho. I think that those judges and prosecutors who do not treat this problem seriously and who actually allow the monsters back into society,should lose their jobs and if anyone is harmed by their decisions,that they should be prosecuted for it.

The night that I came home from work and found out what happened to my daughter,was the single most horrible night of my life..and I can't imagine how my daughter felt..thank God-that the cops there,talked me out of doing something terrible to him..they said that I couldn't keep my daughter safe..if they had to put me in jail..so I crumpled the tupperware tea glass I had in my hands instead..which ain't no easy feat..unless you're mad as Hell...like I was.

Dang...I gotta stop for now..I'm gittin all upset again...it's been 20 years..and I still git all choked up over it...my daughter,thank God..is pretty much over it..she was very young and I reckon that time has healed her wounds better than I would have expected.

Have a good one ....

force them into the armed services.
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I am sorry to hear about your situation Trippruss and Torog. I was raped repeatedly when I was 3 years old and again at 5 years of age, by different people (babysitters). People are quite surprised when I share this information, which I rarely do, because there are no obvious or typical sign that I was a victim of such a horrible, humiliating experience. My mother didn't even know about it until I was 25 years old. I guess at the time, I felt shame. I felt guilty. I felt like somehow, it was my fault that this happened. Now, I am doing everything I can to make sure my kids don't ever experience anything like that and so far, things are going well.

It's sad that so many child molesters go unpunished and if punished, it's like a slap on their wrist and they are released after short amount of time only to do it again and again. It's also difficult to "catch" most of the abusers because victims are in fear of turning them in and sharing (re-living) the experience. Yes, I believe the abusers should be put away for life!

I think the most important thing to do right now is to educate your kids about these sort of things...not to a point where they will grow up fearing the world, but to trust gut instincts and have trusted adults (parents) that they can communicate with comfortably and openly.

this thread is puttin me on a downer,in cases of child molestation i believe that takin the law into your own hands is the only way,if i had any kids then id be happy to shoot somebody for doing that to them,i couldnt give a fuck if i end up doin life for it either,u cant let people get away with shit like that and most times wen they go to court they get light sentences and u have to put ur kid through the whole court case.

fuck that shit,id actually tie up and torture the dirty bastard before i shot him,rape the bastard with a snooker cue

I think if they commit the crime once, they should be locked away for good. No question about it. Just because they go to jail does NOT mean they won't do it again. Odds are in fact, that once they get out of jail, they'll go and commit the same crime, or worse.

yes, but some make mistakes, or something that isn't even with a kid, or really hurting anyone (get caught pissing in public you can be labled as a sex offender, and be labled as a child molester too) how can you decipher the true pedophiles, from the rest?

Very true Slipknotpyscho.

the true pedophiles are the ones who stick their things in kids or have kids touch them innapropiatley or take naked photos of kids,ive often pissed in the street on the way home from a good nights drinking and lots of other people have,only wen drunk,i dont see that as any kind of child abuse especially as there are no children around

but yet, you can still be labled as a sex offender should you get caught by a cop or someone files a report. so by what so meone said, you should be locked away never to be set free becasue you pissed infront of the wrong cop on the wrong day and got sent the wrong judge.

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I think if they commit the crime once, they should be locked away for good.

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if they did do that, it would be with all sexual violators, not just the ones that use force or prey on kids.

Verytrue Slipknotpyscho.

Sorry slipknot, there's a huge difference though. If they make a change, we'll just force the law to recognize the difference. I'm with professor evil on this one, sadly. I would destroy any fucker who touched my offspring. I could get very violent with that I imagine. Probably far sicker then they were. I would be vomitting on them all the whiiiiilllleeee. I just noticed the sun was shining, Ill be right back I want to look at it for a while.

the only thing i can say so far is that it is better to error on the safe side.

I was molested by a cousin some 30 years ago. Never told my parents about it, cause I figured they'd never believe me anyway. Now that I have kids I worry about that everyday. I have no idea how I'm going to be should something happen to my lil girls who are now 2 and 3. Everyday you see kids being molested, kidnapped, even killed. At first I wanted to know what would make a grown man (yes-even women) be sexually interested in a child, but I really don't think I want to know.

And instant vigilance is not the answer. I understand for those who don't have kids to say what they say, but until you really have your own...you don't know that for sure. You don't know that if your son or daughter is hurt in anyway that you'll want to hurt that person in return. Then, you'll have to think of this too. What if you do get vigilance? What next? Then you'll wind up in jail too and who's your child going to run to when they need you the most.

Yeah...the justice system sucks, but I think it's up to us to raise a bit of hell of our own to straighten up this screwed up country of ours so we can protect our children and one day stop this viscious cycle.

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Originally Posted by looseends

I was molested by a cousin some 30 years ago. Never told my parents about it, cause I figured they'd never believe me anyway. Now that I have kids I worry about that everyday. I have no idea how I'm going to be should something happen to my lil girls who are now 2 and 3. Everyday you see kids being molested, kidnapped, even killed. At first I wanted to know what would make a grown man (yes-even women) be sexually interested in a child, but I really don't think I want to know.

And instant vigilance is not the answer. I understand for those who don't have kids to say what they say, but until you really have your own...you don't know that for sure. You don't know that if your son or daughter is hurt in anyway that you'll want to hurt that person in return. Then, you'll have to think of this too. What if you do get vigilance? What next? Then you'll wind up in jail too and who's your child going to run to when they need you the most.

Yeah...the justice system sucks, but I think it's up to us to raise a bit of hell of our own to straighten up this screwed up country of ours so we can protect our children and one day stop this viscious cycle.

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did you mean "vengeance"? im not being a smart ass but i was just wondering if i was reading the context wrong.

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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko

did you mean "vengeance"? im not being a smart ass but i was just wondering if i was reading the context wrong.

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i think she was using vilgilance [vigilante] meaning taking the law into your own hands

This may seem a bit extreme but I think we should issue hunting permits for child molesters if you can prove that a person is a sexual preator you should be able to dispose of societyâ??s garbage. If you think about it this would improve society because most people don't lead a normal happy life after they are molested, I know some do but most don't and worse is that a % become one them selfâ??s.
Yeah I'm a lil high, but still they problem be killed in prison anyway so whats the diff.

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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho

i think she was using vilgilance [vigilante] meaning taking the law into your own hands

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Probably meant "Vigilanteism".

She wrote, "And instant vigilance is not the answer.", which is perfectly understandable and correct in the context of the posting.

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Originally Posted by Durden

If you can prove that a person is a sexual predator you should be able to dispose of societyâ??s garbage.

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This is how I feel. I recognize that if I took the law into my own hands and destroyed them personally, I would not be able to raise my child as I wished I could. But I like to look at the bigger picture. I would hopefully have a wife who COULD take care of my child, and by destroying the man who I know molested my child, I would be ensuring that no future children would be molested by that person. If he molests one child, odds are he'd have no problem molesting another.

My feeling is that in cases of child molestation, if it is a "smoking gun" -100% guilty-no if's and's or but's about it case, kill 'em. Make it permanent and do it fast, no sitting around in a cushy jail for years being paid for by taxpayers. People say they have a right to rehabilitation, fuck that. A little child has the right not to be raped by some sicko, they can't ever "rehabilitate" that right.

Rehabilitation for these sick fuckers is a joke in itself. Their was a recent high profile case out here in California involving Kenneth Parnell. He had kidnapped a young boy, Steven Staynor( you may have heard about his brother,his Cary Staynor who had gone nuts and killed several women in Yosemite a few years back), and kept him as a sexual slave for 7 years before the kid escaped with another 5 year old boy who the guy had just abducted. Seems he liked them young. . Although the guy was 100% guilty with out any doubt what so ever, he only served 5 years in prison. Two years less than the amount of time he kept the boy hostage, raping him repeatedly! Well, just recently, 10 or so years (not sure exactly how long) after his release, he was convicted of trying to buy another boy as a new sex slave. He had also been convicted of raping an 8 year old boy back in 1950. Seems several attempts at rehabilitation didn't work. If he was just executed back in 1950 at least two boys, if not more, would never had to endured the horrors this monster committed.

A while back I lived in a country that the U.S. likes to make a big deal about their lack of human rights and the harsh way they deal with criminals.In this country murderers, rapist, child molesters, are executed and it is done immediately after sentencing. Those convicted of lesser crimes are sentenced to jail and it is quite harsh manual labor type of jail time. While it may seem harsh, I lived in an incredibly crowded city of 12 million people and could walk down any street, any back alley, in any neighborhood, at any time of the day, and never once feel threatened. Violent crime there is almost non-existant. Why? Easy, those accused of capital crimes are done away with permanently and the harsh penalties make others give it a long hard thought before committing the crimes.

People who commit crimes against children are monsters. They are the worst of the scum sucking bottom dwellers in our society. Their actions have brought themselves down to the level of an animal, or worse, and like a vicious dog that attacks a child, they should be put down before they can do it again.

dont molest people , that's mean.

don't kill... toke and be nice.

Our correctional system doesn't work, and everyone knows it. It's crap. Lets rehabilitate or get rid of them. Not just get them out of our hair untill a couple years later.

well the way i see it, you give them their chance to turn their life around (not saying that they dont' need harsher punishments as it stands now) but don't lock them up and throw away the key on them....maybe i'm just more sympathetic then most, i dunno what it is i just don't see the logic in it. if i could make changes it would be longer terms for first time violators and massive treatment, then upon release should they do it again THEN you lock them away for good or do away with them. guess no one see's my point of view on this

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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko

did you mean "vengeance"? im not being a smart ass but i was just wondering if i was reading the context wrong.

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you're right. sorry about that.

thnx guys especially Fengzi, slipknotpyscho; we are ALL labeled anyhow, anyone who thinks differently is alittle off. the problem being that this segment of our society IS given the chance to turn their life around. they repeatedly recommite their crimes, actually start killing their victims instead of molesting, so they wont get caught. meanwhile i have buddies searving life for having over 650gr of cocaine that the u.s. govermnet actually allowed in this country. he will never get out but the laws for csc, @ least in this state, they all carry 15 yr maximums. WTF? :eek: i could molest a child in a school & get probation, but sling some coke within 500yards=never get out? :mad: prison doesn't do shit for pedophiles, they crowd them together for the pysch services so all you get is several prisons with saturations of CSC offenders. usuually middle aged white guys with the "twinkle" in their eye. i've also learned that the easiest way to locate a tree-jumper in the system is look to the bible groups. real bad! usually they feel their crimes are unforgivable by man so they turn to God. i'm sorry for physically taking out "revenge" on molesters, would have allowed me to come home several yrs earlier if i had not hurt em, but i did have sense of "just" while watching the brueblow(sp?) flyfrom their skulls! violence in of itself is wrong, most people would rather just BE let alone & not seek out fights/altercations w/neighbors, etc.,,molesters are constantly seeking prey, it occupies every bit of their existence & they need to fullfill a type of addiction worse than drugs, these process addictions when coupled with sexual needs, urges are compeling these monsters to the point of blackouts. any alcoholics here? you know the next day when you try to remember what quite happened the night before? imagine walking around 24/7 like that but being able to function & think? f*$# scary if ya ask me. i am not really an opponet of the death penalty but some pople are str8 up monsters and lets face it, we as a society have let our kids down big time when it comes to protecting them. parents should be drilling into their kids heads that the only real monsters are the ones who live at such & such address, on such & such street, & so & so who works in the dry cleaner or wherever, it might even come to teaching our children lethal force when in a comprimising position, that is if our lawmakers dont start getting on the bandwagon

mandatory 25 year first time offender law,life for the second offence.

the 25 years should be served as if an aggravated case so the people must do 85% of that 25 years then upon release the person must wear a tracking device for the rest of their life.

then execution.

but the execution should be a good hour long beating administered by the victims family with steel pipes.it would never happen,but i think its a good start.

i'm liking you more & more amsterdam!

thats not the right way to deal with convicted child abusers

strip them and tie them up naked thenhave a horse fuck them,that would bust their ass right open and the horse would fill them with spunk,after you heal the ass and remove t6he stitches do it all over again with the horse for the rest of their lives

the victims have to live their life after theyve bee abused so why kill the molester???keep them alive and dont let them off easily,make them fuck their own kids or something

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Originally Posted by professer evil

thats not the right way to deal with convicted child abusers

strip them and tie them up naked thenhave a horse fuck them,that would bust their ass right open and the horse would fill them with spunk,after you heal the ass and remove t6he stitches do it all over again with the horse for the rest of their lives

the victims have to live their life after theyve bee abused so why kill the molester???keep them alive and dont let them off easily,make them fuck their own kids or something

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Huh, I had thought execution was the way to go but I like your solution better. Not sure if it's fair to the horse though.

florida is on the right track.

I'm against excecution in general. It's an easy way out for people. Let Bubba, Vern and Paco have at 'em.

im sorry that that happend to you two

thing is that even while in prison nobody even gets to these guys. they are put in prison that are full of nothing but pedophiles, all they do is talk to each other, learn better ways of not getting caught, tell the prison guards on others(they have become a very useful tool for the dept. of corr. due to their inability not to tell on others) and they usually parole due to their (spotless) institutional records. so our prison system doesn't teach them anything other than how to recommit w/o getting caught,ie; killing the kids they used to let go!

One good thing about living in Maine is that we have a mandatory sex offender registry, which allows people to find previously convicted sex offenders/pedophiles living in your area.

yea... ive had lots of friends and family that were molested... like i have 5 cousians that were raped... and just came out about it... then i have another 4 friends... and i have another friend that was living with some one that was being acused of molesting them... and i dont know if it was true or not... but i almost took my gun out and shoot every1 of those ppls that molested my friends and family... and i know i will worie even more when i have kids... i probly wont even keep my guns in my house...(wouldnt do a hole lot of good... since i know how to kill ppls like 100 dif ways with my bare hands)

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Originally Posted by ZigZagZeppelin

force them into the armed services.
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Being someone who served i wouldn't want some fuckup whos too busy jerking off to mental kiddie porn in the foxhole with me.

I always thought child rapists and the like would make a much more interesting day at the grenade range than those green foam dummies we throw the grenades at.

kill every fuckng rapeist and child molester with a red hot hanger and some foreceps, add some bleach to cause there fucking inbreed shit fucks

Oh my someone check the thermostat in hell im actually more "right wing" then amsterdam on this one. I say those convicted without a doubt (open and shut case)

Easy solution, Medical Experimentation......And, if its successful yay we cured aids cancer etc (or any number of horrible afflictions) and guess what prisoner! you get another one! NEXT!......