I've read that you can take them up to 2nd week of bloom, but I,m 3 weeks in and I have females everywhere! whatdayathink?
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I've read that you can take them up to 2nd week of bloom, but I,m 3 weeks in and I have females everywhere! whatdayathink?
Zandor, are you out there
You can clone at 3 weeks it may take a little longer and your success rate may not be as high but its better then letting a good female get away. You don't need to pinch the flowers off if there are any. Make sure you use anti-wilt to keep them from drying out. One thing about cloning with flowers is if you use a humidity dome you run a big risk or mold or rot on the flowers from too much moisture. Anti-wilt spray eliminates the need for the humidity dome and will save you temperature and humidity problems. Donâ??t forget about using a good rooting gel or powder. Only use Ph adjusted RO water and keep the root zone warm (not the water. Water should be room temperature. Warm water may cook the roots) How are going to root your clones?
Good luck
I put 2 (OK, I know you hate rockwool)...let's see if I get this right...cut-off with exacto knife @ 45%...Put in warm water...dipped in Schultz takeroot(wally's)I took 1/4 RW cube wrapped it around the stem/in a container 6"x6"x12"water in bottom then set 5" netpot on top of hydroton/RO'd water ph'd...a drop of liquid karma/ or I have superthrive...up to the top of the hydroton/bottom of RW/filled in hydroton around shaft...added a pint cup of water with 2 wallys .88 stones and called for you! I have a
loose clear top over the whole thing...not airtight...look forward to hearing back from you and thanks for your attention...latewood
Hmm thats odd, I cloned my 2 others before 3 weeks but the turnout varied into 2 dead clones =[. Thats the result of cloning before 3 weeks though, I learned that the hardway but w/e.
Warm water? Thatâ??s good if you want to eat your plants or make tea. First you really just take the cutting then you cut the angle when the clone is away from the plant. Make sure you soak the Rockwool the day before in Ph 5.2 water for a full 24 hours before you use it. That may help stabilize the Ph of the Rockwool. (that what the makes sayâ??s, lol)
You should root the clone before you try to use grow rocks. What about anit-wilt? Or are you going to use a humidity dome? What light are you using again for cloning?
Zander...OK, I read that warm water was a bad idea before I cut them, so thanks, 2nd I have had no problem with my rockwool, and yes I presoak it...I haven,t been able to get anti-wilt, went wally's tonight, going to home depot or a local hydro store(1 hour away tomorrow. At Wally's I did find a small mister setup even though I home depot has some great aqua products now...I am planning on doing something similar to your
cloner...Ironically the pool noodles were right next to where I was looking for anti-wilt
so I may redesign...I was going to set 4-5 cuttings in each 5" netpot with just enough rock around the cubes for everything to stand up in a bubbler with the water right up to the medium...
by the way did you make your little plugs or buy them? got some more things to ask you, keep coming back...Peace back to ya...latewood
Nope I make just about everything. I found a source for the waterproof rubber foam stuff (I can't remember what it's called at the moment). HD sells a product for like 5 bucks (I have not tried it yet) I can't remember the name either but it's with the B-1 and other food products for Orchids and specialty plants. It's marketed as a spray for indoor plants to keep them clean from dust and shiny. I did spray some on my arm and it felt about the same as the anit-wilt spray. It's just a food grade wax spray and that's all the anti-wilt is.
If you can't fine a source email me at........imzandor at yahoo.com......
(the cool one at pot.com is still not working)
I have some on the shelf, as well as misters, sprinklers and some other parts that are hard to find.
I saw it ten times today and I could not remember the specifics you mentioned in a thread I read days ago about this topic...it was probably your cloning 101 type thread.
I am going to email you about your shelf...You did not mention what you thought of my explanation for using the rocks and do you think the swimming pool noodles will work in place of the soft rubber you use...boy, I sure could of used this info at hd, lo's.truvaland wall's...I believe they all had that spray...I'm sure I held it in my hand and dusted it off...oh well...come on, Peace ...latewood
â??pool noodlesâ? you got me on this one. The idea is to be waterproof and have a hold small enough to hold the cutting with out falling through. You need a slice in ½ of the plug too to get the rooted clone out. I have not tried to root cuttings in the manor you are talking about. I hang the roots in the air under the lid and they are hit with a spray of water. I would think what you are describing will not have a very high success rate to start a clone from. Once the roots are established then that would work but with out roots first it may be too stressful on the clone and it will just dry out and die.
Hmm zandor, I havent used wilt cream and I cloned my motherplant after 3 weeks and it turned out pretty well, Ill try and get some photos.
pool noodles are poly foam 6 foot long tubes used by people in swimming pools to just hangover and float...I saw a thread where a guy was using them in place of pots and medium...a mediumless grow he called it...anyway he used it exactly like you use your little plugs for clones...the difference being that the noodles are 3-4" wide...he slit up the side after he cut one down to 3" length...it immediately reminded me of your cloning method,only he was growing with it...latewood...I have to get my camera setup and working
Wilt Spray.. once you use it, you will never go back. You can clone at anytime with this stuff. ANYTIME week 5 - 6 - 7 whatever....
The hole in the middle of those is too big arenâ??t they?Quote:
Originally Posted by latewood
You can grow pot and even clones I would guess 100 ways or more. Some people throw a bunch of cuttings in a glass and place it in a widow. In a few weeks they have a few showing roots, they call that success. I call it lucky. It's a matter of opinion and expectation of the outcome that vary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel
Me: I'll stick with what I know works.
Peace
your right Zandor the middle is too big for clones...by the way I have found some soft
rubber material 1" thick to use like you do in your cloner, cut them down and trimmed them to fit in holes I drilled with my largest paddle bit...I took a 8 gallon tub and cut 2 5" holes in the top; the round pieces I cut out is where I drilled my 1" holes...the rubber fits perfect...now I filled up the res and put 5" netpots in the lid withairstones attached to the bottom of the netpots...after foiling the round clone holders I set them in the netpots, they fit perfectly, now they are bubbling away and the bottom of the clones stick out in order to take advantage of the oxygen...I think this will work...
I wanted to use a sprinkler, but I haven't found one I can use, yet...later, latewood
I say the latest you can clone is 11:59 pm :-)
: )
ingredients
1. WILT SPRAY,
2. RAZOR BLADE,
3. 6 - 4 foot flors,
4. rock wool,
5. cloning powder or gel whatever is cheaper
= 100% success - 406 rooted clones!!! every time. And some of these cuttings are pathetic.
most of the time the rockwool isn't even ph balanced for more than a few minutes... doesn't even matter... just soak for 10 minutes in ph - 5.0 ... water as needed with 6.0 - 6.5 ph and in 7 days you will have more plants then you know what to do with.
So putting seeds or clones in rockwool that was soaked a few minutes prior with 6.0 water is bad?
Holy necroposting Batman!
I soak my rockwoolQuote:
Originally Posted by stickygreenlightsabr
at least 24 hours in ph5.4 and I don't have any problems...If you want to soak it a few minutes and use it, well that is up to you...as Zandor says, I go with what I know works!
Pool Noodles material works when they're the type without the hole.
Use a reciprocating saw with a long metal cutting blade or use an electric carving knife.
Saw off a few slices 1.125" thick.
Lay them down and mark out circles just over the diameter of your lid holes.
Carve out your little cylinders.
In each cylinder high speed Drill a 1/8" to 3/16" diameter hole for clone
Insert Scissors into clone hole and snip once.
Remind wife she'll look way less goofy using a shorter pool noodle.
Done.