question about bucket ebb and flow
With a bucket ebb and flow system, with air lines to each bucket and to main resevoir(55 gallon drum)what is the purpose of flooding the buckets and draining them three or four times during hours of light? Why not just flood them for the day? wouldn't that be the same concept as a bubbler or water culture grow? You don't drain the water in a bubbler except to change the water do you? And what level should you fill either the bucket ebb and flow or the bubbler?
plants took a real slow start I'm pretty sure because water level was too low , I've corrected that but want to make sure it isn't too high now either. which raised my question to the necessity of drain and fill, drain and fill? Also am dabbling in the bubbler method since they seem to be quite similar?
Any input would be appreciated
Thanks
Bill
question about bucket ebb and flow
The roots still need air. If you keep them flooded they will not get oxygen to the roots. That's why you fill and drain for oxygen to get to the roots.
question about bucket ebb and flow
How come the bubblers remain flooded or do they?
question about bucket ebb and flow
Bubblers only keep water in the bottom of the bucket. There is an air gap between the water level and the bottom of the net pot. Ebb & Flow cover the whole net pot for a time then drain back into the reservoir. They get to take their breath of air in between fillings.
question about bucket ebb and flow
wouldn't the buckets be the same as the bubbler if you kept the water level lower? Now I fully understand the advantage of the drip bucket system ! continuous oxygen and continous water (and nutes).
question about bucket ebb and flow
Well a bubbler you keep water in the bucket and refill it from a reservoir when the level drops. Air stones oxygenate the water to the point the bubbles raise, pop soaking everything. Ebb & flow fill a bucket from a central reservoir then after a time they drain back into the reservoir and leave almost nothing in the bucket.
Now you know why I like drip systems.
question about bucket ebb and flow
Oh and Hi bill how is your Brother doing?
question about bucket ebb and flow
Hi Zandor I wish I could say he is doing better but he is not. he has to realize that its not going to get better. geez they want a couple grand for a wheel chair (he's a very large man ) another couple for a hoyer lift he has to have 24/7 care so I alone will not suffice. It's a difficult situation. All I can do is try and he , natureally is impatient. I'll find a way somehow giving it my best shot thats all I can do.
thanks for asking Zandor
Bill
question about bucket ebb and flow
I feel your pain Bill, Iā??m sure your brother knows how special you are for taking on the task. You have my email let me know if there is anything I can do. I have some clones you can have if you need some my friend.
I am trying to get my wife a motorized wheel chair now. After the car accident she can no longer work or even walk with out assistance. Thatā??s not in the same league as you brother but I am just getting over stomach cancer my self so Iā??m not up to par either.
Anyway how is that room going? Did you get the buckets worked out yet?
question about bucket ebb and flow
If you could post some pictures of your plants and your setup it would have possibly helped unless you did flood the roots =[. Sorry to hear man.
question about bucket ebb and flow
Thanks fore the concern and the offers of help Zandor , and you as well Joel, I do appreciate that. Give your wife my best regards Zandor and I hope the cancer problem is getting better my friend. Guess we're just all gettin along in the years. Just an old Hippy myself, lol. Hell I can remember staying on tin can beach up that way in 1967, wearing tire tread sandals, leather ankle bracelet, gettin married with a comic book page and gettin single burnin it in the bonfire a couple nights later , LMAO. Every body would give , nobody took more than what they needed and doin for otheres was better than doing for oneself. Those were the days my friend. A long time ago.
hard to explain how the grow room is going , pretty good considering how green I am finding out I really am ,lol. All I can say is just about everything you told me has been right. I'll try to get some pics but I went to soil on about a third , hydro on a third and 1/3 are bubbler. workin alot of the bucket thing manually but have 10 buckets hydro 6" are the best they are a little over three weeks. struggled a lil with over fert on a couple , right now I am struggling with heat but my friend hung me up on my bakearounds but they should be here this week. Need them bad. Got five more bubbler style started out slow but they are in veg room and doing real well. The soil ones also a lil over three weeks are just past the 4th node. went ahead and germinated the rest of the seeds a couple days ago figured may as well I will be cloning soon as I get a mom anyway. Most of the problems have just been live and learn stuff but I have found the time I spent studying and the advice I got from others like yourself in particularly is making it possible to recognize the problems and remedy them. Just don't think I will growing trees right off the bat . lol. I'll try and get some pics here shortly. Like to take ya up on those clones just don't know how I would go about gettin them I think I have a line on some hollywood kush X white russian clones down here so I'll see how that pans out. But Hey Zandor , Thank you man, your old school and I appreciate it.
Well I have rambled on enough for now, be well and take care
Bill