Nation's Patience

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050629/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

"The only way our enemies can succeed is if we forget the lessons of Sept. 11 â?? if we abandon the Iraqi people to men like Zarqawi and if we yield the future of the Middle East to men like bin Laden." He referred to fugitive terror leaders Osama bin Laden, whom the United States holds responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks; and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian responsible for scores of attacks in Iraq.

I'm amazed! Bush speaks on TV and the bashers haven't responded? Why? Hasn't prisonplanet had a chance to think for you yet?? :confused:

It's hard to criticize someone who doesn't say anything.

Tonight's "speech" was nothing more than a collection of soundbites used for a couple years now to try and shore up support for the war. When W. says something new and specific, there may be something worth commenting on.

Should have followed the lead and waited for the "Alex Jones" rebuttle. Original thought.....have we lost the concept? :eek:

I also like how he didn't mention anything on the WMDs which was our main reason for going to "Spread Democracy". I also like how said Timetables are dangerous. This comes from the same guy who called out Clinton, for him not having time tables for Kosovo. Hypocrits. IMO, as stated earlier on another thread, also by many political analysis the Iraqi situation could last well into a decade. If Bush told that to the American Public, his approval ratings would drop even lower. Not like it would matter.. Check out this poll from CNN

http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/result...3.exclude.html

It's funny. Before the war, the Bush Adminstration clearly stated time and time again, Iraq would not be a long deal. Hmmmmm. Liars.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

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"The only way our enemies can succeed is if we forget the lessons of Sept. 11 â?? if we abandon the Iraqi people to men like Zarqawi and if we yield the future of the Middle East to men like bin Laden." He referred to fugitive terror leaders Osama bin Laden, whom the United States holds responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks; and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian responsible for scores of attacks in Iraq.

I'm amazed! Bush speaks on TV and the bashers haven't responded? Why? Hasn't prisonplanet had a chance to think for you yet?? :confused:

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haha

man i picture u with ya finger in the hornets nest
soon as u move it
the gonna buzz ya head and sting ya ass

run forest run :eek: comes to mind

bush is a fucking liar,like all poloticians
they are VOTE WHORES

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Originally Posted by bhallg2k

It's hard to criticize someone who doesn't say anything.

Tonight's "speech" was nothing more than a collection of soundbites used for a couple years now to try and shore up support for the war. When W. says something new and specific, there may be something worth commenting on.

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i know, he basically repeated the same things over and over and over, and was nothing new.

you're not living in a free country when your supreme court says you have no property rights and can your house bulldozed and not be justly compensated for your house and land, as is happening all over the country.

sounds like something saddam would have done.

freedom!

i don't get the not being to have a timetable thing either...are we just supposed to tip-toe out of there and hope no one notices?

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you're not living in a free country when your supreme court says you have no property rights and can your house bulldozed and not be justly compensated for your house and land, as is happening all over the country.QUOTE]

Now where does it state that the land owners will not be justly compensated for the house and land? Dude........show a link for this propaganda! AND NOT PRISONPLANET!!!

The speech offered no new policies or course corrections, and for the most part was a restatement of the ideas and language that he has been employing for two and a half years...

It was, in essence, a repeat of a speech he delivered 13 months ago, when he assured the nation during an appearance at the Army War College that while the job of achieving stability in Iraq would be hard, he had a plan......he is right there it is called PNAC..

Bottom line is he was willing to manipulate intelligence to promote his own agenda and He failed to send our troops in with what they needed to fight and he failed to plan adequately for what would happen once Saddam Hussein was deposed....He did not listen to his generals and he is the worst CNC that we have ever had.
It is amazing that on the same day Bush used the soldiers at Fort Bragg as a backdrop for his address on Iraq, conservatives in the House have voted to underfund veteransâ?? health care by at least $1 billion.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...062301888.html

ABC's Terry Moran reported that the only time Bush got applause was in the middle of his speech when a White House advance team member started clapping all on their own in order to cajole the soldiers into clapping, which they dutifully did.

So even the applause was fake....

Bush wasted his opportunity giving a speech that only answered questions no one was asking....surprise surprise :eek:

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

ABC's Terry Moran reported that the only time Bush got applause was in the middle of his speech when a White House advance team member started clapping all on their own in order to cajole the soldiers into clapping, which they dutifully did.

So even the applause was fake....

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Must have missed the part where they stated that the soldiers were told no applause or hooohaaas. OOOOPS, sorry! Just noticed that you watched the ABC version! :D

hmmm they must have missed that statement in THE COMPLETE TRANSCRIPTS as well, maybe you have a link to the source?

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

hmmm they must have missed that statement in THE COMPLETE TRANSCRIPTS as well, maybe you have a link to the source?

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Sorry. No transcripts and I watched it on the dreaded Fox News where that was stated. Maybe Alex Jones has another take on the situation...ooops, Nics gone. It's all up to Pissant now! :D

Does it really matter if there were cheers or who did the cheering? W. could say that he ate a Big Mac for dinner and there would be people who applaud that.

The point is that the man said absolutely nothing new. This "major address" was simply a rehashing of the same misguided rhetoric this administration has been handing out since the lead up to the war.

He was full of shit then and he's full of shit now.

That's true....bhall :)

I should have known that was something foxlews said.... :rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050629/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Al-Jaafari, who met Bush in Washington last week, was quoted in Wednesday's edition of the London-based Arab newspaper Asharq al-Awsat as saying that while the Iraqi government wanted foreign troops to leave as soon as possible, a withdrawal before Iraqi security forces were ready could only benefit "terrorists."

In a bid to end the violence, U.S. and Iraqi forces have launched military operations and made arrests as politicians work to include Sunni Arabs in the political process, seen as key to taking the steam out of the insurgency.

That's why some Iraqis were reassured by Bush's speech.

"This determination not to let Iraq be plunged into civil war, chaos and instability is important for Iraqis," said Shiite lawmaker Abbas al-Bayati. "To set a timetable for the withdrawal is to give in to terrorism and to reward fanatics."


:D

My problem with the administration has nothing to do with the timetable for withdrawal. I wouldn't believe them even if they announced that U.S., sorry "coalition," forces are leaving tomorrow.

From February of 2003 when Rumsfeld said he doubted things would last six months until last week when Cheney said the insurgency was in "its last throes," (to which the administration sent surrogates everywhere to pull off a Clintonesque "depends-on-your-definition-of-throes" PR blitz) this administration has either been completely clueless about the situation or lying their asses off. Either way, I have zero confidence in damn near everything they say.

Bush said that when a new government in Iraq is in place, then and only then will
U.S. armed forces will leave if asked too. Well there is a new government in place
and they told Bush to leave Iraq. What was the responce of Bush?.
FUCK YOU IRAQ. The U.S. will not be leaving untill all the terrorism in Iraq are smashed. Well 68% plus of the Iraq people want all U.S. forces out now!
Why George Bush jr will not leave Iraq. Bush may lose control of all that sweet oil
No more oil. No more power and control of the middle east.
Then the Iraqies can then sell all that oil to China and cut off the U.S. totally
Game over for George Bush jr, and the U.S.
This may be one of the reason's George Bush jr, rumfeld and others that are with him refuse to get out of Iraq.
Who in Iraq need's the U.S. when they can sell all the oil they pump out the earth to China. China told the Iraq government they will buy every drop of oil in Iraq.
Remember their is only one real terrorist in Iraq. And his name is GEORGE BUSH JR!
Just ask that mother or farther who's son was killed in Iraq so some rich asshole can drive that 8mpg suv they may agree!