Beeblebrox proved my point...its about politics

Hey guys you may have noticed that i recently posted a thread where i stated that i thought "christianity" was bullshit.

If you notice how i encased the word in parenthesis i assumed most would get that i dont think the idealism was bullshit...just our current method of implementing.

My thread was closed because it had nothing to do with politics? ummm....WHAT?

I dont want to fight or annoy mods but how can you say that? Politics and religion has NOTHING to do with each other in america? So pastors all over the country arent rallying support to get troops to fight in bloody greedy selfish wars?

This is turning into a modern day crusades. just like back then, christians are rallied to fight against the muslim godless enemies and vice versa. and people dont have a problem because "they're good christian boys". hate to break it to ya folks but the muslims love and respect their children and culture just as much. with all our knowledge and education we still have the audacity to call THEM savages. torog mentioned in another post that they're nowhere near modernising themselves so they rely on religion to guide them. we're so "superior" but look what we do....we resort to torture and defend torture? wtf happened?

I was trying to get people to express their views but i was silenced when the topic was "too taboo" and "not relevant". I say we have no right to bitch and complain about how the government tries to keep us quiet when we're all part of a message board that advocates the same practices. that's my two cents.

I'm not a satan worshipper. i love what God has given us especially a great abundance of weed. but if being a christian means shutting down those that want to speak out then forget it. i'll stay an antitheist.

"nicholasstanko" is bullshit. Now since its in quotes Im not insulting you, you see.

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torog mentioned in another post that they're nowhere near modernising themselves so they rely on religion to guide them.

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Torog never said they relied on religion to guide them i was adding on my opinion after his.

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Originally Posted by yocass

"nicholasstanko" is bullshit. Now since its in quotes Im not insulting you, you see.

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I noticed your weak attempt at sarcastic humor but sorry yocass...you're not pushing the right buttons anymore.

Instead of being insulted an intelligent person might actually question the motives behind the claims. if you immediately lash out then you're pre-emptively being ignorant to an opposing view.

Why do you think that i'm bullshit, yocass? I'd like to hear your thoughts.

I was pointing out your weak argument actually. My quotes didn't mean much, and seeing as how you obviously felt as id I'm attacking and lashing out at you, they didn't mean much to you either. You post a thread called Christianity is bullshit, and call me ignorant? your more backwards than a trailer part yokel.

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Originally Posted by yocass

I was pointing out your weak argument actually. My quotes didn't mean much, and seeing as how you obviously felt as id I'm attacking and lashing out at you, they didn't mean much to you either. You post a thread called Christianity is bullshit, and call me ignorant? your more backwards than a trailer part yokel.

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ummm....whaaaaaat? :confused:

Yep, Beeble shouldn't have locked your thread. I wonder how many of the threads in the Politics forum he even reads. If he read enough he would certainly know that discussions of the religious right, and its influence on politics, is quite common here. My guess is that he just skims over the titles and saw one he didn't like. Amazing how quickly power corrupts. What's Beeble doing here anyway, he really deserves to be working for good ol GW.

Uh oh, maybe I shouldn't have said that. If I'm banned tomorrow you'll know why.

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Originally Posted by yocass

I was pointing out your weak argument actually. My quotes didn't mean much, and seeing as how you obviously felt as id I'm attacking and lashing out at you, they didn't mean much to you either. You post a thread called Christianity is bullshit, and call me ignorant? your more backwards than a trailer part yokel.

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Wow...i was so blown away with confusion i had to use a secondary post. I was responding to your post. i did it without being sarcastic or mean-spirited at all. i calmly and clearly explained what an intelligent person (in general) might do. i made no reference to what YOU might do. in fact i asked why you think im bullshit. that's all. no "fuck off's" no "screw you".

I posted that said: I think "christianity" is bullshit and asked for other opinions. i'm not being ignorant if you didn't even bother to ask me to elaborate. Now, whenever you're ready we'd like you to sit with the big kids.

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

Yep, Beeble shouldn't have locked your thread. I wonder how many of the threads in the Politics forum he even reads. If he read enough he would certainly know that discussions of the religious right, and its influence on politics, is quite common here. My guess is that he just skims over the titles and saw one he didn't like. Amazing how quickly power corrupts. What's Beeble doing here anyway, he really deserves to be working for good ol GW.

Uh oh, maybe I shouldn't have said that. If I'm banned tomorrow you'll know why.

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i agree, it shouldn't have been locked. who gives a shit...he's been here all of what...2 weeks now....

So where's the right? see...unless it's about an issue where it's vague and broad noone will want to touch it for fear of being on the weaker side of the arguement.

what arguement though? all i wanted were opinions. i didnt post my opinions first because that's how it starts. i formulate an opinion and then i'm to be attacked. then it'll all boil down to dems vs. reps. and noone will leave contemplating an opposite view.

after the alex jones show i'll be back and i'll post what i think and i dont give a fuck who replies or who has a differing opinion because if you dont stand up you dont value your own opinion.

Umm, guys, there's a forum called "Spirituality". Had you posted your topic there, since it was about religion and not politics primarily, I'm sure it would have been just fine.

Here's what I think: Basically, I'm somewhere between an athiest and an agnostic. Not to sound wishy-washy but to me an aethiest tends to be someone who makes a point out of stating there is no God. I don't beleive there is a God but, frankly, I don't think about it all that much. It's just a non-issue with me.

That said, I don't think Christianity is bullshit. I don't think any religion is bullshit. Religion provides the hope that many people need in their lives. It also helps to form a set of guide lines (don't steal, don't murder, etc) by which people live. So, religion can certainly be beneficial to millions/billions of people.

What is bullshit is what people do and say in the name of Christianity. People twist what is written in the Bible into their own interpretations. They then make the other "good Christians" feel that in order to stay "good Christians" they must go along with what has been said. Disagree and you'll burn in hell. That is bullshit.

Condeming others for not believing is bullshit. When I was in Catholic school (long story) we were taught that those who weren't baptized would never go to heaven. So, for example, a Buddhist or Hindu who has done nothing but good their entire life, someone who would be a saint if they were Catholic, wouldn't go to heaven because they weren't baptized in the name of the Lord. At least with the Catholics the non-belivers would get stuck in purgatory. Many of the evangelical Christian faiths would have them burning in hell for not being Christian, period.

Using Christian beliefs to control what others do is bullshit. "We believe homosexuality is a sin so you can't get married". "We beleive that abortion is a sin so it should be illegal" Etc. Etc. That's bullshit. What difference does it make to them if I want to "sin"? You can have your beliefs, don't force them on me.

So, Christianity itself is not bullshit but a lot of Christians are full of it.

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Originally Posted by F L E S H

Umm, guys, there's a forum called "Spirituality". Had you posted your topic there, since it was about religion and not politics primarily, I'm sure it would have been just fine.

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Yep, exactly.

C'mon, nick. Don't bullshit me. That thread was nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to bait people into an argument. You didn't even bother to support your assertion, you just took this steaming dump and left it sitting there. You might be able to fart in other people's faces and call it Chanel Number 5, but you're not fooling me.

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Originally Posted by Beeblebrox.420

Yep, exactly.

C'mon, nick. Don't bullshit me. That thread was nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to bait people into an argument. You didn't even bother to support your assertion, you just took this steaming dump and left it sitting there. You might be able to fart in other people's faces and call it Chanel Number 5, but you're not fooling me.

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luaghs and says man i can almsot smell something funny here

religion is a state of mind
and it does belong on another thread
wiat..is that attacking somebody?
(nowhereman pulls out a bloody spear and declares " soups done"

Until evangelicals recognize the Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution, I say any discussion of Christianity is ripe for political debate.

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Originally Posted by F L E S H

Umm, guys, there's a forum called "Spirituality". Had you posted your topic there, since it was about religion and not politics primarily, I'm sure it would have been just fine.

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Yes but these forums alot of people who i talk to use these primarily. and also fuck the spirituality forum. politics and religion are attempting to go hand in hand in the real world. to not talk about it in a politics forum is just plain dumb.

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Originally Posted by Beeblebrox.420

Yep, exactly.

C'mon, nick. Don't bullshit me. That thread was nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to bait people into an argument. You didn't even bother to support your assertion, you just took this steaming dump and left it sitting there. You might be able to fart in other people's faces and call it Chanel Number 5, but you're not fooling me.

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No beeblebrox dont bullshit ME. It wasnt an attempt to bait people in an arguement. I was trying to get people to give their opinions without having MINE to try and use for their arguement.

Why the fuck cant you guys understand that? Fengzi gave his views beautifully just now and that's all i was asking for. did i reply and give my opinion in relation to his own? NO.

what YOU did however, was skim through saw something you didnt like and you closed it down. THATS bullshit. you did exactly what alot of these God fearing "christians" would do. Something isnt kosher with YOU so everybody has to know about it. Don't ask me to elaborate or reply or even ask me why i would post something like that. "Just shut him down"

Ill just keeep quiet now...i dont wanna "bait" you into an arguement. I think that's just your subtle way of kicking out another view without having to much of a real reason besides "i felt like it".

Oh, man. You are such a martyr, aren't you? :rolleyes:

Look, your thread was pointless and inflamatory, I closed it so get over it.

it's the fake 'socialist' 'liberal' christians that are conned by lord bush...they think they're christians, but they aren't. they think they're conservative, but they're not.

like torog.

it's the real christians that are against bush, and see through his phony religion...

george bush is NOT a christian at all. not even close.

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Originally Posted by Beeblebrox.420

Oh, man. You are such a martyr, aren't you? :rolleyes:

Look, your thread was pointless and inflamatory, I closed it so get over it.

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I've seen many pointless and inflammatory threads on this board and on this forum. That was the first one I've seen locked.

A little something about christianity more specifically roman catholics.

Thomas Edison, a great inventor, While flying his kite in a thunder storm, came up with some great inventions from that experiment. The first was lightning rods. These rods connected to copper wire that ran to rods in the ground, prevented buildings from burning down when hit. The Pope issued a sanction against Mr Edison Saying he was interfering with gods work of strikeing down bad people and their families with his invention!!! How stupid was the pope in his thinking on that? That's just one of many reasons i'm not catholic anymore. It just proves religious zelots are usually misinformed, misguided people trying to spread "their" version of their beliefs on others. And to think the pope's followers believed him about mr edison. 'shaking my head in disbelief'.
peace
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Originally Posted by Beeblebrox.420

Oh, man. You are such a martyr, aren't you? :rolleyes:

Look, your thread was pointless and inflamatory, I closed it so get over it.

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Exactly. That's YOUR opinion How did you get to be a mod? I didn't notice anyone else who actually uses these message boards manage to voice what they believed. Why wouldnt you at least let someone respond? I know why. You're ignorant and biased. I wouldnt be surprised if your some bible thumper who got offended and used his "power" to get your way.


I think "christianity" is bullshit. You know why? because of the same fuckery you did to me. All it is based on is power and control. You have some kind of power and you seek to control others to stop them from having the same power or at least power enough to know you're full of it.

People are out dying right now. what does the vatican do about it? not a fucking thing. oh sure we'll see people smiling on camera and crying because the power of the spirit is in them. yeh it's bullshit (in my opinion). all ive seen in my christian background upbringing is some guy on a pulpit telling you aboout how horrible you are so what happens? you go and you give him your mind and in return for his "help" you fork over your money for tithes and offerings. and where does it go? a new mercedes or a new lexus? it doesnt go to the poor sick and the suffering it goes to some guy with a snappy business suit.

I didnt need Penn and Teller to tell me Mother Teresa was a twisted fuck who thought that by suffering people were being helped. She took money and used it to build nuneries with her name on it. And she's regarded as a saint. what's wrong with this picture? Ah but what the hell, i might be baiting her ghost and she'll rise up to get me right beeble? i mean anything's possible in a world where four planes can get hijacked and magically disintegrate on impact.

I refuse to let some fuck tell me to go to the spirituality forum. fuck you! i dont care who said it...whoever did then the previous statement stands. All over america the teachings of God are being manipulated and twisted for evil maniacal despotic and selfish reasons.

Support for the war. What kind of sicko goes to a church with army-issued weaponry to help the minister tell people to sign up and die in an unjust war. A war where "muslims" are the enemy. I almost cried last night when i saw the presidential address. The media reich had studios FULL of republican parents selfishly...no dont re-read what you thought you read...SELFISH republican parents who lost sons and daughters so far and who cant grip reality with what's going on. They lost their loved ones so they dont give a fuck and they tell other parents to send their kids in so later when there's a big memorial they wont feel so alone. i dont give a fuck what anyone thinks of that opinion.

I saw the entire studio basically sneer and put on looks of disgust and i even saw a few assholes TURN AWAY from the muslim girls stating that the muslim way of religion isnt about violence. "The nerve of that heathen...daring to say that we've been wrong in our right christian agenda". I felt sick. And someone had the audacity to tell me that religion and politics are seperate. Fuck them. I dont care.

That's what it's about now right on these boards hey beeble? A cursing match among partisans.

"I have an opinion"------- "Fuck you that opinion's stupid"

"I guess you win then"


To All: If by the end of this you dont like what you've read then all i can say with the sincerest regards is "fuck you". After all, that's what freedom is about right?

Oh, for fuck's sake. Next, you'll be nailing yourself to a cross for our sins, eh? Well, take a week off, courtesy of yours truly. If you don't like the rules, you can go someplace else. No one's saying you can't express your opinion, so stop the disingenuous bullshit. Good lord, you're acting like I erased the 18 minutes on the Nixon tape instead of closing a stupid thread.