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ok dudes here is my little philisophical therory god can not exsist
thats it...
jk people just thought id have a little fun anyway god cant exsist because something cannot be created out of nothing so god would have always had too of existed even so god would have to be infinitely large to create the univers so he would destroy or change himself into the universe so god would no longer exist or every thing would be god
sorry if that was a little mixed up im kinda high
wow sometimes i amaze myself
dude what strain are ya smoking lol,who put the whole universe into play? not me not you,there is a god,even the big bang theory still leans towards a starting point! even the scientist believe something made the bang go boom... :) smoke as much weed as ya want you still won't grasp any of the answers lol
....OP (original poster incase someone doesn't know what OP is) is right god can't exist...
god as the bible tells of him definatly doesnt exist... why would he make everyone so different if he wanted them to be the same??? I do believe in a "god" but not a man up inthe clouds... God is what is, God is the energy that created this univers and everything in it.. and there definalty isnt any heaven or hell!! "Your not christian!!!! TO HELL WITH YOU!!!!! lol religous people make me laugh....
A flaw in humans is that EVERYTHING has to have a beginning AND end. There is stuff out there that the human mind just can't comprehend. You need to think outside the box with this sort of stuff. Nothing is impossible when theorizing about whether there is, was, will be, a god Or when the universe began or where we came from. The possibilities are endless. I give credit to those beings who created the bible, mythology, religions..ect.. they were thinking outside the box to try and explain. That's why i'm beginning to think that humans will NEVER know certain stuff. Thinking outside the box is what people today have trouble doing. And when they actually try to, they're labled insane.
this si why when your trying to figure out the answers to this shit you need to be trippin on acid lol...... screw religon too i dont belive any of that shit.
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Originally Posted by naturalmystic
Believe it or not brother! thinking outside of the Box is what brought me to my conclushion,Jesus is Lord...but it's good we can talk about it without the hate being thrown back and fourth......
Yesterday, whilst walking around downtown, a woman came up to me and handed me a religious pamphlet, I initially rejected it, and she responded "You haven't even read it." Just out of curiosity for those who purposely try to spread their religion. I ask you what you think it would be like if everyone were the same. How drastically different the world would be if everyone had the exact same values and morales. If you're spending a lot of time trying to convert people, you're obviously not spending enough time on yourself. And trying to make yourself a better person.
humans are just ignorant period, just know that you know absolutly nothing
The way I see it if everyone in the world had christian value's,the place would bea great place to live!,difference is what devides us..Quote:
Originally Posted by naturalmystic
Yeah!! If everyone's like ME, then everything's gonna be alright!Quote:
Originally Posted by bruiser
Come off it dude,all I am saying if people hold to the truth of Jesus Christ in their hearts,and actually lived by his truth,everything would be great!...I think you posting like that under me was just foolish,other words if we all love like christ did,then we would be united under one!........but you fail to see that right? of course..Quote:
Originally Posted by F L E S H
If you believe in Jesus or not, his teachings still stands as a perfect way to live with your fellow human...if he be god or not,isn't the point it's his truth!!!!
If the entire planet lived according to Muhammad, every one would get along too... Same thing if every believed in Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu. If every one believed in the Buddha, everyone would be enlightened... What makes believing in Jesus better than believing in these other things? Absolutely nothing.
You missed the whole point by a landslide sorry to see that your thoughts are your finale answer..
can't keep up with the debate so you say I'm off by a landslide? hmm... Denial will get you nowhere....Quote:
Originally Posted by bruiser
not that I can't keep up! just when your up against closed mind people whats the point of even trying :D ,either way brother good luck.
don't patronize me, buddy. I'm not the one with the closed mind. My point is that you seem to be certain that you and everyone who believes as you do is right, and everyoine else is wrong. How am I close minded?Quote:
Originally Posted by bruiser
I completely understand where FRESH is coming from. I don't believe it's being close-minded. He asked a significantly valid question....What makes believing in Jesus better than believing in these other things?
And that question, in my opinion, stems back to the woman who was so stubborn to convert me. Or at least read her little pamphlet. Who's to say I didn't already have a religion. I have a pretty big nose, I could've been jewish. Did she really think she could actually convert me from one religion to another. Her thinking that she could convert me from one religion to another also stems from her thinking that her religion is obviously the best. AND THAT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS WHAT ANNOYS ME.
That's all.
lol, thanks mystic! I totally agree with you.
Everyone's allowed to believe whatever religion they want, just don't be so arrogant as to say yours is the best and I'm lost unless I believe the same thing you do.
heyheyheyheyhey... if god created the universe, than what created god???
Chicken or the egg?
Religious people think they are right, and everyone else is wrong. If we choose not to follow Christ, we are wrong, you are judging us infairly, even though I remeber correctly, doesn't the bible teach you NOT to judge one another, even though you do it everyday thinking that we are wrong because we don't follow Christ. You're all hypocrites, most of you are, you follow these "rules", yet you break them everyday. I grew up in a very religious household, my father was religious, my mother, yet it is okay for them preach goodness in mankind while they beat the living shit out of me and my brother? Leave us alone, we are happy, stop trying to change that. Religion is what people are FIGHTING and KILLING about in the middle east. Thou shall love thy neighbor? Thou shall NOT kill?
"If you serve God for money, then you serve the Devil"
God can't create the universe because the universe is bigger? So you're saying i can't build a house because the house is bigger than me? You're thinking too small.
God isn't in this dimention, he isnt in the universe. He isnt outside the universe. He's on a completely different plane of existance, completely seperate from us besides for the links we have such as faith, love, marijuana, and miracles.
I'd have to say we're on the same page. I wouldn't say "all" one-god-religion people are like that, but a crap load are and should learn to use that funny little part of their brain that enables critical thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nochowderforyou
If God didn't exsist, based solely on the assumption that things must have a beggining, than what about time. Time never started, time will never end, so I guess time doesn't exsist. God is beyond us, he doesn't have to obey the laws of nature and logical thought that hold us, as humans, back. If God were contained to the laws of human's, then he wouldn't be much of a god at all.
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Originally Posted by Checkminus
exactly what i'm saying bro. if he created all this who says he had to follow his own rules? he's like a programmer, and we're his program. he has COMPLETE control. but wait, i can already hear the question...
"why doesn't he make the world peaceful and blah blah blah <insert bush mocking> <insert terrorist threats throughout the world> <insert random deaths>"
that's because he gave humanity, all of humanity, free will. thats what makes us very unique and special! we're his little creation, and he's letting us do whatever we want.
what i personally believe, is God being very lonely created the universe, earth and it's species in specifically to let it grow and evolve. he created us so he would have some friends, someone to speak with and talk to.... and thats what we do every day. although i dont pray, go to church, follow religion rules, etc etc i still know God's with me at all times and unknowingly i communicate with him through everything i do, think, and shit.
hopefully this helps point someone in the right direction :)
That's what's called anthropomorphism, taking something that's not human and giving it human qualities. How the fuck do you think a supposedly omnipotent, omniscient, spiritual being could possibly be 'lonely'? What does that even mean for 'God'? He has nothing to do on the weekends, so he creates the universe? Come on, man, grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by juggalotus17
If there is no God can you please explain where the afterlife comes from what it is?
Have you ever done a ouija board.What is this if not some form of afterlife cannot be one person mindset can it?I have done them with people and on my own and know it is not fake.(btw I will never do another).
Humans are always trying to understand and be everything to all things but they forget we are the creations not the creator and will never be able to understand such things.
Just go with the flow and accept what is..
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Originally Posted by mrdevious
I agree with you, I guess you could say im a "one-god-religion" person. It's true that most christians try very hard to impress their lifestyle onto people. And exactly as you said, many many people fail to use the logical thought that (at least in my, probably flawed, oppinion) God gave us. If we weren't meant to use it, we probably wouldn't have it.
damn, you guys write alot to answer simple questions on here. God always existed. There ya go.
Here's a question for everyone...
There are literally an infinity ways and reasons to explain stuff. So why single it down too just ONE. To me, there's just to many options, and to single it down to one is arrogant. I think when people have religions, they reduce their capabilities to interpret stuff around them. They become 'close-minded".
Howdy naturalmystic,Quote:
Originally Posted by naturalmystic
I agree,that some folks can be close-minded,if they are thoroughly 'steeped' in their religion,however,that's mostly true for the less educated person of Faith,for those that are more educated,they are in a constant process of reconciling new data versus accepted belief. But the data that they process,is not used for rejecting their Faith,but rather,to see the Hand of God in all things.
My Faith,has made me more spiritual,not less..being a father and a man of 46 years,I have seen much that can only be explained as the Hand of God being involved,in fact,I often have circular reaffirmations,on a daily basis,that God works in mysterious ways,indeed. The longer you live,the more that you will experience,that can only be explained as the influence of a Higher Power. Simply becoming a father,made me more spiritual and I realized that our children,are indeed a blessing from God, and I have been humbled many times,having to start over from scratch..sometimes from the street. I give all credit to God,for what seemed miraculous at times,the providing of what I and my family needed. Events have come together in such a way,as to defy any other explanation..and you have to be spiritually aware,to discern the mysterious workings of God,but you can grasp it to some degree,if you simply pay attention. However,we are warned not to go to far in this particular discerment..but rather,simply be grateful and humble and place our trust in God.
To me,Science merely reinforces my Faith,as we discover how the Universe works..it does not lead me away from God..but rather,leads me back to God.
Have a good one ....
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Originally Posted by naturalmystic
By refusing to even accept the notion that there may be one true religion, you could be considered close minded. But on a whole you're probably right.
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Originally Posted by Checkminus
That's very true. It could go both ways i suppose.
What did God do during that eternity before he created everything? If God was all that existed back then, what disturbed the eternal equilibrium and compelled him to create? Was he bored? Was he lonely? God is supposed to be perfect. If something is perfect, it is complete--it needs nothing else. We humans engage in activities because we are pursuing that elusive perfection, because there is disequilibrium caused by a difference between what we are and what we want to be. If God is perfect, there can be no disequilibrium. There is nothing he needs, nothing he desires, and nothing he must or will do. A God who is perfect does nothing except exist. A perfect creator God is impossible.
www.evilbible.com
that sounds like me euphoric
That makes good sense. Like I said before, as humans we cannot think of something beyond ourselves, nor can we form a mental image of something we have never seen. If there's life in the Universe other than on our little planet, can anyone truly say that they have an idea of how the extra-terrestrials would look like? It's the same with God. It makes no sense to give God human emotions like being bored, or angry, or vengeful, because he isn't human (if he exists at all)Quote:
Originally Posted by Euphoric
the answers will never be known as fact on either side of the debate.thats what makes it so fun.