Im Mainly interested in your opinions if you have seen bowling for columbine and farenhieight 911..
what are your veiws on this guy and his acusations against the US president.?.
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Im Mainly interested in your opinions if you have seen bowling for columbine and farenhieight 911..
what are your veiws on this guy and his acusations against the US president.?.
Howdy NoosaHeads,Quote:
Originally Posted by NoosaHeads
My honest opinion,is that Moore is a traitor and seditous,his actions and propaganda,have probably resulted in the loss of American and Coalition, soldiers and other civilians.
Also,anyone against gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment,is a fool and against the in-alienable right to self-defense. Moore is a shame-less hatetriot and should be shipped off to France.
Have a good one...
I'm not a big fan of Moore, he spins a lot of stuff, but I don't think Moore causes American soldiers lives. That is more of the American Foriegn Policy's fault.
Howdy XTC,Quote:
Originally Posted by XTC
Moore made the terrorists understand,or believe,that Left-wing Americans view the terrorists as 'freedom fighters'..not the cold-blooded,murderous bastards that terrorists really are..that implied support,has lead to more terrorists joining the jihad and as such,led to more murder and abductions. Blaming American foreign policy,means that you do not hold the terrorists accountable and are seeking a means to appease them.
If ya dance with the Devil...you'll git burnt..
Have a good one ....
I don't support the Terrorists, but our Foriegn Policy and furthermore, the Patriot Act(more like Un-Patriot like) are FAR from being perfect.
I loved both films. They encouraged many people to think. We have grown so accustomed to believing whatever the TV News says... There was a few areas of hype...but then thats with any film.
I found it strange that Canada has guns and the same video games etc...but not the violence we have....what is your theory on the cause of that, Noos,and XTC?
America needs More Gun Control, The statics speak for themselves. I don't believe in an out-right ban on firearms, but we need WAY STRICTER Gun control.I say, if you're convicted on a violent crime, No gun for you, sorry you lost your privledge. It is clear that Americans are not very responsible people when it comes to guns.
I agree XTC...I think they need to lock up the parents that leave guns in their house where kids can find them...so many of our handgun deaths are children. I read about a new type of lock for hand guns that reads your finger print and will only work for the finger print that registers it. I thought that was a great idea but it fell to the side when Bush got in.
I have to say I naively thought Micheal Moore was 100% legit when I first saw his films. Any American brave enough to contradict the brainless patriotism with hard facts through the media deserved my respect back then.
I still respect the fact he's no sheep, but i've been convinced he's hardly much more then another distributor of propoganda. Why is this fat guy in a baseball cap following congressman around like a dog asking them to sign their kids into battle?
I can understand why a lot of Americans dislike him. In the end, his films do spread consent for the US but twisted or not, most of the points he makes are true. Does any other Army in the world hook death metal up to an in-tank CD player when they're blowing civilians up? Fair enough his films are pretty biased but if you ignore the actual VIDEO footage then your hardly much better yourself.
He's a great film maker and his hearts in the right place but don't talk about the propoganda-dependant government when your MAKING a piece of propoganda yourself.
I watched both films. I dont agre with his stance on gun control. No way do i want to be disarmed if a riot breaks out or arnold runs for president. i also agree on stricter penalties. i also believe in the death penalty. but of course those judo-chritians wont allow it. SURE lets pay more taxes keeping these guys well-fed and with a place to sleep. He raped and murdered a four year old but that's okay. we'll let him live a nice quiet life in prison. i hate judo-christian ideaology
i think he make his money off your fears
the bastard
and if IT comes to my town i'd probly get my ass kicked by some gun carrying thug protecting him.cuase id tell the fat fucker he is useles piece of shit
bowling for columbine was the most RACIST shit i ever seen
that lil cartoon in it only makes non whites mad with grains of truth and lots of hot air
he is A cuase of prejudice and folks thinks he is a hero
fuck him he wants ya box office reciepts and thats it
he dont care about america or its people
just the money like any other dickhead fucker making MOVIES
and he aint even good at it so i cant see why anyone but america haters enjoying his propoganda bullshit
and F/911 is part too of scare the population ,make more money
so what do i think
i think the fucker needs to go on a diet and shut the fucking lies up
peace
Don't you think your being a little extreme nowhere? He's a film maker, not a child killer.
bowling for columbine was the most RACIST shit i ever seen
that lil cartoon in it only makes non whites mad with grains of truth and lots of hot air
could you elaborate on this a little more? What exactly are you talking about?
I thought he was cool until he literally started calling Ralph Nader crazy during the second presidential election. For a guy who voted for Nader in 2000, and talked about how both parties are one and the same, he was awfully gung ho about Kerry in 2004, and before then Gen. Wesley Clark. I understand he hates Bush with a passion, but at least he should live up to the principles he preached, and not bad mouth Nader.
no he is a parasite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Button Basher
period
you must see it to know what i meanQuote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat
but its the history of america cartoon part,
fucking racist as all hell and only makes non whites feel anger towards all whites which will only make more racism,
I agree that even though it was deliberately biased, you cant dispute the claim man. All that stuff happened. it's fact. i do think though that people have a lot of generational maturing to do so i kinda understandQuote:
Originally Posted by NowhereMan
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Originally Posted by Torog
Thanks Torog..
Thats what I gathered from wathching him I think he's spreading fear and division..
although I dont know enough on the subjet to Judge thats why I sterted this thread..
thanks everyone for your input i have learned alot from your replys...
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
Its hard for me to say bluecat because i beleive in hands on experiance.
I do know that after the Massacre we had here in Tasmainia wich forced the amnesty of all auto and semiauto weapons that there hasnt really been violence of that kind since..
Howdy XTC,
Moore made the terrorists understand,or believe,that Left-wing Americans view the terrorists as 'freedom fighters'..not the cold-blooded,murderous bastards that terrorists really are..that implied support,has lead to more terrorists joining the jihad and as such,led to more murder and abductions. Blaming American foreign policy,means that you do not hold the terrorists accountable and are seeking a means to appease them.
If ya dance with the Devil...you'll git burnt..
ok dont take this the wrong way i dont approve of terrorist killing thousands of people.....I knew people killed in those attacts..... but i do agree in there reasoning to a certain extent..what they did was cripple our economy, not some much for the average joe. yes its hard to earn a living but it could be harder and bush and cheany havent done much for it except make alot of money for themselves... they hurt the fealthy rich that have been hourding all of americas money, why do you think its hard to get a good paying job?? i am not justifing their acts at all! and am not an AMERICA hater, im a fealthy rich hourding dont give a damn about anyone else fuck yall hater
I'm also extremely stoned right now
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wow im going to lose all respect now if i havent already
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Howdy XTC,
Moore made the terrorists understand,or believe,that Left-wing Americans view the terrorists as 'freedom fighters'..not the cold-blooded,murderous bastards that terrorists really are..that implied support,has lead to more terrorists joining the jihad and as such,led to more murder and abductions. Blaming American foreign policy,means that you do not hold the terrorists accountable and are seeking a means to appease them.
If ya dance with the Devil...you'll git burnt..
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Originally Posted by nomadherbman
Up untill the last sentence I guess thats a valid statement...:(
fact america was not biult on slaveryit had it yes ,took alot of years to do away with it.did slaves do alot of work ,yes all,,,,,HELL NOQuote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
but that cartoon wasnt saying a dam thing about how the tribes in africa
sold their enemies to the ships..passing by did it?
i mean THEY enslaved themself at first and then yes white people just said fuck trading lets just take what we want,greed does shit like that.
slavery was a common thing way way back then,
wrong as it was ,in those days slaves where global commodities and most of them were sold to the slavers,not just kidnapped as they have ya think
so it pisses me of to have some fat fuckin prick get piad to spread racism
like he some hero,of the oppressed
im proud that america has overcome such evil enterprises
but agian i say america wasnt biuldt on slavery
ask all those irish and chineese and countless other nationalities of laborers that came here to work and BIULD it
that movie is no documentary
its half assed and all one sided
anti american is all it is
so mr moore(on) can go fuck a 240 volt socket
Yeah, African Elitists had a lot to do with the slave trade. I still think America's involvement in slavery was atrocious, but no country (even Canada) is free from some history of violence and awful practices.Quote:
Originally Posted by NowhereMan
As for Mr Moore, I think he is misunderstood. He is intelligent and frankly I disagree with many of his opinions, but I respect his patriotism and his will to stand up and say something is wrong in his country.
But thats just me.
As an individual, he has a right to state his opinions and views in public and private forums. I don't like his films personally, because I feel like I'm being manipulated with the "facts", as he pesents them.
Farenheit 911 was supposed to be a film that defeated George Bush, and that objective failed. That film turned out to be a 2 hour commercial against Bush, and probably should have been considered a 200 million campaign comtribution to Kerry.
FUCK THAT ASSHOLE thats all i have to say!
Howdy Blue Cat,Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat
I know that you won't reply,because I'm beneath your lofty status as a liberal elitist,but I just have to say..that we already have enough gun-control laws on the books,they just need to be enforced better.
As for trigger locks,they put one in a vulnerable position,if faced with an intruder..they are about as useful as caling 911,they both git ya killed. There wouldn't be as many gun accidents,if the parents would just educate their children about guns and gun safety,it would take away the 'mystery' of guns and children would be responsible in their handling and use. The NRA's Eddie Eagle program,is excellent for teaching children about guns,that and similar programs,should be more widely taught.
Guns aren't the problem,it's the folks pulling the trigger..that are the problem,to be un-armed,means no defense against criminals or tyrannical goverments..the politicians,should always be fearful of an armed populace,take away that fear..and there's nothing to stop tyranny.
I have a frontier mentality,to me,a gun is a tool for gathering food and defending my family from those who would wish them harm..especially for us folks living in the country,where calling 911,means no help for at least a half-hour or more.
Have a good one...
but you are a liberal torog...at least you vote for them...
I think Michael Moore ought to be shot.
hydrizzle whats up your ass today.?.
your sulking arond these forums like a big sook.....