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That's the impeachment draft for ol' Bushy boy. I'm asking all of you...and yes even assterdam, are any of these allegations a lie? an outright bold-faced lie? if so, then do you support impeachment? do you believe the downing st. memo isnt incriminating?
http://www.downingstreetmemo.org
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=35872
Terrorists hate America and oppose George Bush. If you oppose George Bush then you must also hate America and are surely a terrorist. George Bush can do no wrong.
I thought I'd save Amsterdam some typing. No need to thank me.
"If you oppose bush, then you must also hate America"
I'de sure like to hear justification for that one.
Bush defeated the Taliban and Al Queada. He was our hero after 9/11. Damn it.....Bush is America. Being against Bush is like being against George Washington, baseball, Mom and apple pie. Why can't you Bush hating, America bashing, terrorists understand that.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Bush is a good Christian and is carrying out God's will. If you oppose George Bush you are also a devil worshiper or, even worse, a Muslim, and will surely burn in hell.
Couldnt have said it better fengzi, not any better at all...
lets put ourselves in Bush's shoes when he leaves office like 20 secret service police will be with him at all times thats ok for Bill Cliton but Bush needs a army he made some high profile enemies. That said if i was him i would use every trick i could come up with to stay in office. So your saying what kind of trick could this guy use right ? Me i would let the currency collaspe and declare a state of emergency the president stays in power until the emergency lifts. What would you do if you were him?
I've put myself in Bush's shoes but dumb and stupid didn't feel so good so I switched back to my own.
I'd like to say let's not give Bush any ideas but I'm pretty confident that he already has a whole gang of people dreaming up possible strategies for him to become overlord. It's not like they're busy worrying about domestic policy anyhow. Besides, like the point I was trying to make earlier, after 9/11 the republicans have put Bush up on a very high pedestal. Whatever Bush does he does to protect America so to be a good patriot you have to go along with Bush. In right leaning, conservative middle America that goes a long, long way. That's why he beat Kerry. I mean, do you really think Bush could have won a 2nd term if 9/11 never happened.
One other interesting thing, look at the states where Bush won and the states where Kerry won. Then look at which states are known for their educations of higher learning, high tech industries, finance industries, etc. In other words the places with high percentages of intelligent people. Guess who voted for who?
Yeh, everybody forgot about the redneck vote. There are way more rednecks than actual people with sense.
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Originally Posted by Fengzi
This is off topic, I know, but look at the Senate. Republicans hold a 55 to 44 edge, with one independent. But those 44 Democratic senators represent more people than do the 55 Republicans.
That can be the nature of the Senate, so I'm not proposing an overhaul of any kind. But I really wish that Frist and the GOP leadership would keep that in mind when they propose their agenda, at least in the Senate. They are a majority by seats only.
not everyone in those democrat states is a democrat.the republicans were the ones picking up votes in those states.
there are FAR MORE republicans in america than democrats.its all about getting them out to vote.if you do that ,you win.obviously.
if i were the dems i would stop fretting with the far left of the party,they dont help.the dems need the middle of the road voter and they lost that in the last election.the dems also must have the minorities wich they are slowly losing wether you choose to admit it or not.at this point in history,our P.R. and marketing is far more productive than the dems. I dont disagree with all the dems positions,but they shoot themselves in the foot with howard dean who keeps the far left loyal,while removing the middle of the road voter from the dem control.
is dean working for Rove?seems so.
as much as people might hate Rove,the guy is hardcore and tough to beat.good luck.i would be nervous going against him.he eats peoples lives for breakfast.
How? If they picked up votes, wouldn't they have won the seats, instead of losing? Democratic senators represent more people than do Republicans. You can't get around that.Quote:
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I'd like to see statistical evidence of that. Every poll or article I read on the subject, and I'm well-read on this, says that most people identify themselves as leaning Democratic when it comes to domestic policy and Republican when it comes to foreign policy (though, that is shifting). It's not so cut and dry as there are more of this party or more of the other.Quote:
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I used to feel that Dean was bad for Democrats for that very same point. But then I realized that it was Dean who energized the Democratic party by playing to the most liberal members. And that Kerry lost that momentum by moving to the center.Quote:
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The reason why Republicans are winning is because they cater to the far right. The most extreme part of any group's base is where the activism comes from. The far left is where Democratic activism comes from and Dean is doing the right thing, regardless of what you hear or read in the media.
Karl Rove dodged a bullet when the media fixated on Dean's Iowa concession speech in 2004.
dean sure isnt helping the party now.the guy cant even go in public without pissing on the washington dems.
dean was a loser pick in '04,just like hillary in '08.
so the dems lose '04 because they are to far left,they hire the farthest lefty to head the whole party.sounds good to me.
if i were you,i would pray for a low turnout in '08. obviously a high turnout does not work in your favor.i'd be pretty nervous if i were you.unless you have been living in a box,i know you can see that America hasnt made any steps to the left.
I fully agree with amsterdam on the hilary issue. Our world just isnt ready for a female president of the united states. everybody will be glossing so much over the historical significance and celebrity of it all that noone will remember about the fucked up shit going on now. HELLO, ANYONE REMEMBER NORTH KOREA?!?! the same n.korea that demanded the US to declare them a nuclear power in order to regain peace talks? i dont think the president is in the right state of mind to swallow his pride.
Now imagine hilary in this situation, would she be the first female president to blow north koreans the fuck up or will she make a testament to time of being the first female president to do as little fighting as possible? the international court would eat her alive and i can almost certainly see more bills getting drafted to grant the cia and fbi more powers in terms of military action.
im in to good a mood to argue about who will run and who will win cause my vacation starts tom,but i will say that my team has a few tricks up their sleeve and arent to worried about '08.
i think it has more to do with the fact that more people hate hillary than like her.
if you thought the swift boat guys were mean,JUST WAIT till hillary runs.ouch.
fenzi your are one misguided fuck you think gods gunna save you when you die hahahahahahahaha wake up and smell the coffee you as insinifficant and a the fly you squash on your wall
macho man randy savage this is going to kick you guy's asses!
uh uh...hulk hogan's gonna win!
macho man hit guy with chair, bad...hulk hogan hit guy with chair, good.
ooga booga, ooga booga...meanwhile we're all getting fucked, no matter who gets in.
Scarcely have our minds been able to emerge from the astonishment into which one stroke of parliamentary thunder has involved us, before another more heavy, and more alarming, is fallen on us. Single acts of tyranny may be
ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate and systematical plan of reducing us to slavery.
--Thomas Jefferson
http://unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=2872
Sept. 24-26, 2005: End the War on Iraq!
Massive Mobilization in Washington, D.C.
Of course God will save me. I'm a Christian and a Republican. You sir, obvioulsy are not, and, therefore, I would suggest an asbestos coffin cause it's gonna get real hot for you.Quote:
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Nomadherbman, wake up! My previous posts were all sarcasm. You know, making fun of folks like Amsterdam who actually believe this crap. It's ok, I'll forgive you because you're probably stoned.
ya i got a little carried away and didnt bother reading the whole thread
ya i got a little carried away and didnt bother reading the whole thread my apoligies
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people like me?i dont believe that shit.i havent been to church in years and years besides x-mas with the family.
super religous people make up a tiny part of the republican party.we are alot bigger than that.you should have learned that by now.
Ok Amsterdam, you got me on the religion part. I was referring to the whole "If your against Bush you are anti-American" and lumped the religion part, a small yet vocal minority, into it. I should have been more specific. I apologize.Quote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
So, here goes again:
Nomadherbman, wake up! My previous posts were all sarcasm. You know, making fun of folks like Amsterdam (who beleives that if your anti-Bush you're anti American, but not the religious part) who actually believe this crap. It's ok, I'll forgive you because you're probably stoned.
hahaha,thats more like it.
religion makes up a small part of the rupublican party.........ha.........i read in the newspaper yesterday that the united christian foundation will be helping in selecting the next republican canidate.......i guess thats just a small part huh?
not to mention the number one reason people voted for bush was on moral values such as gays marrying
i think we have bigger issues than that......but wait the all mighty book says gays are bad......why would god makes us all so different if he wanted us to be the same?
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that pretty much speaks for itself.
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Originally Posted by Fengzi
You are a monkey.
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LOL yer not the only one, but Fenzgi has a bit of a turn on his sense of humor.
I asure you he is kidding.
Peace.
George Bush is real godlike when he murdered all those unborn babies when he was the governer of texas. and wait how many are dying now because he wants more money for his oil company? how about save the environment for future people to live? thats not happening with him in charge. some of you need to stop fucking watching tv and start getting the real news from Jeff Rense. ya know some of the worlds smartest people and scientists are all dying wierd deaths. the rednecks that I see are the ones with the american flag in thier rear windows of thier pickup trucks. all they care about is beer and television.
what's it up to now...like a couple dozen mysterious deaths of top scientists and biologists of the world in the last few years...
he was run over, backed over, and then run over again...they think it was an accident...
he drowned in an inch of water...
he shot himself eight times in the head...yep, that's what happened.
how so amsterdam
who's like amsterdam? not pisshead by any chance? Amsterdam makes up his decisions in his head without looking at any kinds of coherent viewpoints. All those things actually happened with those people "mysteriously" dying. Do you want him to base a thesis on it every time he argues the same point to the dolts that dont get it the first time?
if you were responding to me i was talking about his response to what i said earlier
he said that relgious people only mad up a little little bit of bushs votes i was telling him wrong
Originally Posted by nomadherbman
religion makes up a small part of the rupublican party.........ha.........i read in the newspaper yesterday that the united christian foundation will be helping in selecting the next republican canidate.......i guess thats just a small part huh?
that pretty much speaks for itself.
anti bush means anti american? bullshit he is trying to change our american way of life. bush=nazi