My first notion that there is NO GOD

Growing up I was never one of those kids who would step on the catepillars during recess for fun. They would step on one side of the catepillar and work their way up the body until ALL their guts were outside the body. When I stepped on an Ant or when I smacked a fly, I had a minor feeling of guilt deep down inside. I'm a kind person to earth. I don't litter and I don't harm animals (bugs included). When I was around 10 I had ants in my room, so I would sprinkle some sugar or something for them to eat. I was never one of those kids who burned insects with a magnifying glass. I never taped worms or beetles to bottle rockets and set it off. I've never struck or kicked an animal.

This above material has nothing to do with God or Relgions. I was going to type something about God, but I didn't want to. So I typed this.

lol well thats nice man. respecting each living creatures. im kinda like this too, but if i see ants in my room ill kill em :o

but i like that way of acting :)

but u can also elaborate on your first notion that theres no god, id love sharing my opinions with you too


peace

Well i just wanna say that it pisses me off when people get offended when I say God or goddamnit

They'll say "dont use god's name in vain" and im just sitting there wondering what happened to people. Relgion is so important to people that someone who doesn't even believe in God can't use 'his' name in vain? It's pathetic.

After 14 years of doing the pledge of allegiance each morning, I finally realized how fucked up of a concept it is. Everday millinos of kids stand up, face a flag, put their hands to their hearts and recite a pledge of allegiance.It has a communistic feel to it. I stopped doing the pledge 2 years ago not only because it is a weird concept, but because it says "one nation under god" and frankly, i dont want to be a member of a nation who's "under god". Maybe i should stop using US currency, since it says "in god we trust" on every bit of it. I dont trust god. I dont believe in God, I can't trust someone/thing i dont believe in.

Anyways, the other day, some BITCH, TOLD me to stand up. I said: "NO! worry about yourself"

right on, naturalmystic, right on man :p

That does sound like a comunest thing, I agree there. Every time that one nation under god came, I've always replaced it with under the Gods. That is good that you are doing your own thing. That pleadge of alegence does sound like a sort of a litney, and many kids are following along because they're told to. I remember when I was going to the blind school in Austin Texas, many of my class mates got so tired of doing that every day. We had to listen to the teacher and what not, but one day, I didn't stand up or anything. I got chastized by the teacher, but I told her that if she ever says anything to me again, I'd tell the principal that what she's doing is violating my rights, and she never did that again. I know that many people will get mad because of that, or any other reason, but it isn't going to go away. I have two questions to ask though. Are we supposed to be lead by the hand? Just because some person who works in a school says to do something like the pledge of alligence, are we supposed to obay their commands in that situation?

thats nice natural mystic im with you. USA seems to impose its view of religion. can u actually beleive some hitories from bible are taught in schools?

Yeah, they call it "The bible as in literature"

They CLAIM they study it for the literature. What a crock of shit.

I have two questions to ask though. Are we supposed to be lead by the hand? Just because some person who works in a school says to do something like the pledge of alligence, are we supposed to obay their commands in that situation?






I think that a child is supposed to do what the teacher or higher authority tells them to do. up to a certain point. (depending). But at some point in a kid's life, they'll realize that teachers have absolutely no authority over them. The job of the teacher is to teach, NOT to discipline or anything along those lines. Once the student reaches the certain point when they can realize on their own that a teacher cannot tell a student what to do, then they don't have to do what the teach tells them too. I think the schooling system is becoming more corupt every year. The only reason we go to school is to learn and be taught. There is too much extra stuff added to that notion.

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Originally Posted by naturalmystic

Growing up I was never one of those kids who would step on the catepillars during recess for fun. They would step on one side of the catepillar and work their way up the body until ALL their guts were outside the body. When I stepped on an Ant or when I smacked a fly, I had a minor feeling of guilt deep down inside. I'm a kind person to earth. I don't litter and I don't harm animals (bugs included). When I was around 10 I had ants in my room, so I would sprinkle some sugar or something for them to eat. I was never one of those kids who burned insects with a magnifying glass. I never taped worms or beetles to bottle rockets and set it off. I've never struck or kicked an animal.

This above material has nothing to do with God or Relgions. I was going to type something about God, but I didn't want to. So I typed this.

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heh..i had similar experiences when i was tiny. i'd get bored, so i would try to figure out the best way to create elaborate poison mixtures and pour/sprinkle the evil stuff into colonies of wood ants.
later in life (around 10 also) i felt indebted to insects soceities everywhere, and i'd go outside with a pound of sugar and rain down enormous amounts of sugar on their colonies. Unfortunately, the massive amounts of sugar smothered them and turned out to be more effective at ant genocide than the direct application of bizarre poisons. Whoops :o
But it did teach me the value of life. Unlike the bible, which tried to teach me to kill babies, degrade women and regard all life as there just to exploit. www.evilbible.com

have you ever tried telling a religous person "god as told in the bible" isnt real. they dont even aknowledge it. I've found that it seems like people like us come to the realization on our own. relgious people are so closed minded they dont think for themselfs and it usualy takes some type of hardship to finally say hey "this religon shit is bullshit" "why would god make us all sooo different if he wanted us to be the same" qoute from the movie saved if you havent seen it i suggest it its a religous satire

our modern religion suppressed the true gateway to the other side a long time ago.
that gateway was through plants.
the churches are just money takers and just recite passages to get money
they dont even know what it means most of the time
how many preachers believe in ufo's? but yet its all there in the bible along with the consumtion of the holy grail "Amanita Muscara" to go to the heavens.

Whether God exists or not is irrelevant, because there are two kinds of people that believe and practice in invasion of privacy; Priests and Republicans. A Catholic Priest is the the kind of person who would sneek into your house while your not home and look through all your personal belongings, files and intimate possesions. Then he who quitely and quickly slip out and return to the fire station and report all of it in a detailed report to his Republican partner. They pose as friends when it is to their advantage, but they never stand by a man when he is in trouble.

Kind of like at the drivers license facility. But they wouldent know anything about that would they. Ohh no of course not, those under the table green-backs, they don't know anything about that do they Ben.

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Originally Posted by nomadherbman

have you ever tried telling a religous person "god as told in the bible" isnt real. they dont even aknowledge it.

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Hey, come on man.. If you flipped it around and somebody was trying to tell you that god is real than you probably wouldn't acknowledge it either. Don't get me wrong, i'm atheist also, but nobody really knows anything for sure so try and be a bit more open minded. :)

But then the preist looked at his accuser and said no I think you should look at yourself. And the accuser said Yea you right I am guilty, and the Priest but him in jail. Thas what Judas did too, when he kissed Jesus.

Yup they wrapped that case up.

ghostalker... i do aknowledge a higher power not a man sitting up in the clouds
and i am quite open minded
but i understand what you are saying.....

but the ones that need to be open minded more so are the strickly relgious that is all i was trying to point to

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Everday millinos of kids stand up, face a flag, put their hands to their hearts and recite a pledge of allegiance.It has a communistic feel to it.

wtf you are so right i am so disgusted by america. the other day i went to see war of the worlds and i was upset. upset almost to the point of tears. not because the graphics, the aliens, or anything like that but because the way people reacted in the movie and the hate in the world was a horrible thing for me to see on the big screen. i suppose i knew all the hate was there but to that in a crisis people would probly react like blood hungry savages was horrible thing to bear.

so i guess im saying is if the world ever comes to the end by a bunch of angry aliens, i hope that us stoners can unite and be peacful during our las days and smile at the aliens and the world and smoke a bowl.

Here's a story about god for you. A few years back i was over at a friends house
His grand farther came over from Germany for a visit.
Some were along the line we started talking about god and his grandson asked
do you beleive in god grand dad?
His face went stone cold, then rolled up his shirt sleve,there was a numbered
tatto on his arm. then he said it. GOD IS NOTHING BUT BULLSHIT! THERE IS NO GOD.
I knew what that tatto was, I saw one like it years before on another man's arm.
So i asked him what camp were you put in?
AUSCHWITZ! Death camp. Why I asked? Because I said that Adolph Hitler was a mad man who would get us all killed if Germany follow him. The next thing I knew the S.S
draged me off and in I went.
For four year i was their, putting bodies of the dead and the living into the ovens.
Not all of them died in the gas chambers some were still alive. Praying too a God that
never came Sleeping in piles of bodies fresh from the gas chambers.
Watching the jews screaming for God to save them from death as the S.S. smashed
their heads in. I saw a women having her unborn child cut out of her right in front of me, then tossing that new born into one of the oven's as her mother was scream for God too saver her and her child, then she went in still scream for god for help.
At that moment I said to my self ,their is no God!, God is nothing but bullshit.
If there is a God, why is this so called God letting this madens happen to me?
He told us of more horror's me saw, People scream for their God to save them.
Begging God, pledding to God to get them out. At the end of his story he told us
there was only one way out of AUSCHWITZ at the time and that was up the oven smoke stack.
I was told that he never talked about AUSCHWITZ CONCENTRATION CAMP AGAIN.
And he stills thinks GOD IS NOTHING BUT BULLSHIT! IF ANYONE ASK HIM!

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Originally Posted by naturalmystic

It has a communistic feel to it.

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no it dosent communism is an athiest government that condems religion
this is more like a facist concept

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Originally Posted by mellowyellow

no it dosent communism is an athiest government that condems religion
this is more like a facist concept

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communism...fascism,....regardless, you get the same feeling?

I live in the states and its like religion is just taking over. I donot belive in God. I do belive there was a Jesus but as for his mom being a virgin...Nay.....she just didnt want to get caught. I dont belive that crap. I belive in everything is beautiful and like nature and we should respect it but we dont look at our world. Religion has been the cause for many wars. Look whats happening right now. I guess its to each his own but I cant stand to be around most christians because most are nothing but hypocrites. They do preach and they do judge people everyday and try to push there ways on to the world and thats wrong.

^^^ actually there is a symtom where a women can become pregnant witohut have sex....IF one belives they are pregnant so strongly, they'll start showing signs of it.....very rare tho.....dont hold me to this either, i just saw it on CSI......lol

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Originally Posted by Deborah

I live in the states and its like religion is just taking over. I donot belive in God. I do belive there was a Jesus but as for his mom being a virgin...Nay.....she just didnt want to get caught. I dont belive that crap. I belive in everything is beautiful and like nature and we should respect it but we dont look at our world. Religion has been the cause for many wars. Look whats happening right now. I guess its to each his own but I cant stand to be around most christians because most are nothing but hypocrites. They do preach and they do judge people everyday and try to push there ways on to the world and thats wrong.

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thats because 86% of america are religous to one extent or another.you are part of a very small minority. :eek:

^^^^


I'm proud to be a part of the minority group.

no one is saying you shouldnt be.

as long as you know.