I'm a pretty light smoker; should I risk it? Need advice!!!

Ok, so I am very new and inexperienced with trying to beat a drug test and I have 1 week to become a master: I was notified that my job at a very large company had been eliminated on 8/16, so knowing that Iâ??d be looking for a job, I immediately stopped smoking. With my prior use, I was/am pretty much a lightweight. I normally smoke 1-2 puffs of schwag from a one-hitter 4-5x each week, with maybe one of those times each week a little more (4-5 hits). After my last day at my previous job â?? 8/28 â?? I caught a break and a team in another dept where I worked offered me a new role. I was also looking at other job opportunities, so I still (mostly) refrained from smoking anything regularly but did have two hits around 9/1 and then at a party just this past Sat nite had two more puffs. The bad thing is, this recent smoking was with more potent weed: my source was out of the cheap stuff so actually gave me a small qty of hydro, so thatâ??s what I puffed two hits of on 9/1, and based on its effects on me, I believe what I puffed this past Sat may have been some strong stuff as well.

Donâ??t have the exact date yet, but Iâ??m expecting to have to test early next week, around 9/17-18, which would be about a month since I last smoked regularly, butâ?¦ those 4 hits of hydro over the last week or so! Ugh. Since I was officially not an employee anymore when the offer was made, they are making me go through the drug screen (pretty sure itâ??s a urine test).

I did buy a home test kit last night and tested negative, but as thatâ??s just 72hrs since I last smoked, Iâ??m a little skeptical as to the accuracy and cannot afford to get a false sense of optimism. I also know those tests only test to 50ngs but I donâ??t know what my employer will be testing to.
My dilemma is that Iâ??m torn between relying on that test and going the more â??honestâ?� route, just cleansing by drinking a lot of water, exercising as much as I can, and anything else that is recommended and then hoping I pee clean. The downside of this obviously is that I know Iâ??ve smoked so a positive could come back and this is a high-paying gig at a VERY large employer. If I donâ??t get it, Iâ??m screwed for any other future roles there too after a 10 yr career earning nearly six digits.

The other route is to try one of the numerous products out there that promises to get me a clean test, but Iâ??m reading that many/most of those can be detected so that seems like far from a guarantee as wellâ?¦

My last option but one I really donâ??t want to gamble with is getting a buddyâ??s urine who doesnâ??t smoke. Pretty sure heâ??d do it but Iâ??m concerned about having the temp firmly between 90-100 degrees since if itâ??s not, theyâ??ll know somethingâ??s up.

FYI, Iâ??m male, 46 years old, 230lbs but overall in pretty good health with a reasonably good metabolism for someone my age who doesnâ??t exercise on any kind of regular basis.

Any advice is most appreciated!!!! I'm desperate and even have a medical appt this morning to see if I can convince my dr I have acid reflux so he'll prescribe me Protonix, which I've read can trigger false positives! (I wouldn't take it prior to the test, but if I come back positive I could possibly point to that and see if they'd retest....).

Theres really no false-positives anymore. False-positives are eliminated when the urine sample goes through the confirmation GC/MS test. The GC/MS can distinguish between illicit and non-illicit substances.

Drinking water does not rid the body of THC. For more info, do an Advanced Search with the terms "water soluble drinking water days THCA concentration".

Thanks for the reply, Burnt Toast. When did the GC/MS test come about? I ask because the maker of Protonix -- Pfizer -- lists it as potentially causing false positives, but i'm not sure how old that info is.



Regardless, having Protonix on hand is obviously a last resort: a potential defense anyway for having failed the test.

My goal though obviously is to PASS the test, so I'm trying to find out to what levels Quest tests to and how I can test myself to that same level at home beforehand to see how I'll do and take action in the week I have if necessary.

Any tips given my history?

Thanks in advance....

The link youve provided linked me to a damaged file, therefore it has been nuked. In the future, please be more careful when posting links (at the same time, make absolutely sure that any links posted are not links to sites selling goods and services) . In addition, please refrain from making further references to other types of drugs (legal or illegal). Only cannabis can be discussed in these forums.

The GC/MS is nothing new. Labs have been using the GC/MS as a confirmation test dating all the way back to the "Just Say No" era of the Reagan Eighties.

Burnt Toast: sorry, I do want to look at the info you're pointing me too, but want to be sure I'm doing it as quickly and efficiently as possibly since time is of the essence. Can you clarify what exactly you mean when you say "do an advanced search"? I'm pretty web savvy but typically just go to Google and punch in what i'm looking for. Will that get me to what you're wanting me to read? Or, can you just post a direct link? Thanks!!

Burnt Toast --

Apologies, i was reading over my post and saw my link missing and figured I'd forget to paste it in, so I did an edit to add it back in. Go ahead and nuke again if it's showing damaged on your end (it showed fine for me...).

And sorry about the violations. I'm a major newbie here but will play by the rules moving forward.

Up above where you see the advertising banner, you'll see a search bar below the banner. Click on the tab "Advanced Search" and you'll go from there.

Yep, got it; thx.

From reading some other post, it sounds like when you personally test you go with the subbing methodology and after reading all the different dilution (aka: "Cleansing") products and variability among them, I think subbing is the route I'm going.

What's best to sub though: synthetic or urine from another human? Assuming human, I believe I've read it can be male or female, but can you confirm? If Synthetic is better or just as good, what's the gold standard? I've heard mostly about Quick Fix and it seems solid. Have you used it?

Fyi, I've asked most of these questions on another thread so if you've answered there, no need to repeat!

Thanks for all the help so far....

Any human sample can be used as a sub as long as the sub donor is indeed drug-free and not overhydrated.

As far as synthetics used in the past, Ive used the QF, the Magnum, and Ingology Golden Shower Enhancer brands - all with success. Of the three, Ive used the QF the most frequently, having first used it 13 years ago (back when it was available in the 4 oz bottle).

Ok, I'm a master at this, I had 3 piss tests a week when I was in an outpatient rehab, people tell you about special drinks you can buy and yada yada but they don't work, what I would do is the night before the test I would try'to drink 2 gallons of water within 2 hours, and I would get in my jacket and pants, and run around tye block and sweat like a pig for 2 or 3 hours, and I would keep drinking water and try to pee, eventuallly...maybe around midnite, I would'crash and go to sleep, as soon as I would wake I would drink 4 huge cups'of black coffee, because'coffee it a dieuretic, and I would chug as much water as I could, after you've pissed 5 or 6 times, your piss is dilluted, but then comesanother problem, they can tell when your urine is dilluted because its to clear, so you need to take lots of vitamin b complex, chew 4 or 5 every 30-45 minuets, don't worry, it won't make u sick, then within an hour of your drugtest, go to the store and buy a monster energy drink, it just makes your piss'really dark, trust me, and when u go to take your drug test, see if you can bring a monster in with you, because if they say your piss is too dark now, you can blame it on the monster and just hope they don't send it to the lab.. here's a more dangerous tip I used a few times, supposedly, aspirin makes a false negative for thc on most panel drug tests, so at your own risk take 3 or 4 aspirins within 35 minuets of the test, I'm 5'8" and I weigh 165 lbs. And I took the aspirins and had no I'll effects, but for legal reasons, I do not codone injesting more than the reccomended dose on the aspirin bottle, so do it at your own risk, and good luck, I hope you pass, I've passed over 30 drug tests by this method so I assure you its reliable, but keep in mind to do all this accoording to your own height and weght. Good luck :-)

Thanks, Ben, BT and everyone else. I'll definitely return the favor by posting the rest of my experience and results (I expect to test early next week). As of now, I took my second home test this a.m. I used "First Check", the one only for THC since that's all I may potentially have in my system (which is a diff brand than I used for my first test 2 days ago).

I went to bed at 10:30 after not drinking any unusual amounts of any liquid, but I woke up a little after 2 a.m. and had to pee. No way was I gonna stay up and test and I knew I'd have to go again later anyway, so... back to sleep. I woke up a little before 6 and was able to go more than enough to pass the "minimum" line in the pee cup and after 5 min. the result showed negative (it was a faint line and a broken line, but the manual clearly states that this is a negative same as a darker line that is not broken).

So that's two tests this week -- one at night after a lot of liquids, one first thing in the a.m. with no liquids -- and both show negative. Which makes me think I should be ok without subbing as I was considering, but I will still use dilution for sure.

The ONLY thing that worries me still a bit -- and maybe you can comment BT -- is a couple of reviews I've read of these home testing kits. Can't find 'em now but I distinctly recall one where a reviewer said "Thanks for nothing. I took this and tested negative, so went into my drug screen with a false sense of confidence and FAILED." Someone else came behind that reviewer and said "The test didn't fail, it just isn't designed to test to lower levels of THC. The employer you tested for probably tested to lower levels than this home kit."

To me that makes sense but I know you BT (and others) have said that's not really so and that the home kits are pretty much equivalent to what is used at screens, but I guess hearing the contradictory info is keeping me from feeling really confident.

I will definitely dilute some and compensate with B2 and Creatine supplements from GNC because I figure the worst that SHOULD happen there is they tell me it's too clear and make me go again. Assuming these home kits are accurate I SHOULD be able to pass just by drinking a fair amount of water and being sure they don't get my first void of the day which of course is easy enough, but I'll dilute more than that just to be sure.

Anybody got any thoughts? I was initially thinking of subbing and only using dilution as a backup plan but these home tests make me think I should be ok just diluting.

As a reminder: I've had 4 hits since Aug 16: two around 9/1 and two more on 9/7. So I'll have been totally clean for 9 days come pee time and clean except for 4 hits for ~ 30 days; prior to that I smoked 3-5x week, usually 1-2 hits from a one-hitter and only occasionally (once a week or every other week) would I indulge in 5-6 hits to really bake.

Thanks everyone!

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Ok, I'm a master at this, I had 3 piss tests a week when I was in an outpatient rehab, people tell you about special drinks you can buy and yada yada but they don't work, what I would do is the night before the test I would try'to drink 2 gallons of water within 2 hours, and I would get in my jacket and pants, and run around tye block and sweat like a pig for 2 or 3 hours, and I would keep drinking water and try to pee, eventuallly...maybe around midnite, I would'crash and go to sleep, as soon as I would wake I would drink 4 huge cups'of black coffee, because'coffee it a dieuretic, and I would chug as much water as I could, after you've pissed 5 or 6 times, your piss is dilluted, but then comesanother problem, they can tell when your urine is dilluted because its to clear, so you need to take lots of vitamin b complex, chew 4 or 5 every 30-45 minuets, don't worry, it won't make u sick, then within an hour of your drugtest, go to the store and buy a monster energy drink, it just makes your piss'really dark, trust me, and when u go to take your drug test, see if you can bring a monster in with you, because if they say your piss is too dark now, you can blame it on the monster and just hope they don't send it to the lab.. here's a more dangerous tip I used a few times, supposedly, aspirin makes a false negative for thc on most panel drug tests, so at your own risk take 3 or 4 aspirins within 35 minuets of the test, I'm 5'8" and I weigh 165 lbs. And I took the aspirins and had no I'll effects, but for legal reasons, I do not codone injesting more than the reccomended dose on the aspirin bottle, so do it at your own risk, and good luck, I hope you pass, I've passed over 30 drug tests by this method so I assure you its reliable, but keep in mind to do all this accoording to your own height and weght. Good luck :-)

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If what youre stating is indeed true, then you mustve passed those 30 tests more than a decade ago. The tips youve provided above are dated at best and no longer apply to the situations in the drug testing world of today:

a) With creatinine and specific gravity checks being lab SOP in recent years (thanks mainly to the advent of "all-in-one" assays with built-in validity checks), color became the least aspect in determining an overly-diluted urine sample. Samples with a nice color to them can still exhibit an unsatisfactory S/G and creatinine level. Therefore, when utilizing dilution techniques it is now more important to focus on the creatinine and S/G.
N2's Dilution "sticky" has tips on what to do to help keep the S/G and creatinine cops at bay.

b) Aspirin was used in the old days as an interferant for only one type of test: The first-generation EMIT screen. Since then, a second-gen EMIT (aka EMIT II) had been introduced to counter the interference issues caused by aspirin. As a result, the first-gen EMIT is seldom used by the labs anymore (if, at all).
Mechanism and elimination of aspirin-induced interference in Emit II d.a.u. assays.

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The ONLY thing that worries me still a bit -- and maybe you can comment BT -- is a couple of reviews I've read of these home testing kits. Can't find 'em now but I distinctly recall one where a reviewer said "Thanks for nothing. I took this and tested negative, so went into my drug screen with a false sense of confidence and FAILED." Someone else came behind that reviewer and said "The test didn't fail, it just isn't designed to test to lower levels of THC. The employer you tested for probably tested to lower levels than this home kit."

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The reviewer and the follower exchange above is nothing more than a bunch of anecdotes that should be taken with a grain of salt. The "come-behinder" has no clue to the actual reason why the reviewer had failed the lab test. Who knows if the reviewer had taken his home test at night after drinking lots of fluids and took his lab screen the next day earlier in the morning?
One more reason why it is stressed that the first urination of the day should be used when taking home tests.

And who knows if the "come-behinder" is not just a defending shill with direct ties to the test kit manufacturer?

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I will definitely dilute some and compensate with B2 and Creatine supplements from GNC because I figure the worst that SHOULD happen there is they tell me it's too clear and make me go again.

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As stated previously, creatinine and S/G checks had been lab SOP in recent years, therefore, visual inspections of color is the least aspect in determing dilution. Color inspections were sufficient more than a decade ago, but that was then. The rules of the game had changed.

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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast

If what youre stating is indeed true, then you mustve passed those 30 tests more than a decade ago. The tips youve provided above are dated at best and no longer apply to the situations in the drug testing world of today:

a) With creatinine and specific gravity checks being lab SOP in recent years (thanks mainly to the advent of "all-in-one" assays with built-in validity checks), color became the least aspect in determining an overly-diluted urine sample. Samples with a nice color to them can still exhibit an unsatisfactory S/G and creatinine level. Therefore, when utilizing dilution techniques it is now more important to focus on the creatinine and S/G.
N2's Dilution "sticky" has tips on what to do to help keep the S/G and creatinine cops at bay.

b) Aspirin was used in the old days as an interferant for only one type of test: The first-generation EMIT screen. Since then, a second-gen EMIT (aka EMIT II) had been introduced to counter the interference issues caused by aspirin. As a result, the first-gen EMIT is seldom used by the labs anymore (if, at all).
Mechanism and elimination of aspirin-induced interference in Emit II d. a.u. assays.

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Oh wow, thank you for correcting me in time, but I did mention above to hope they don't send it to the lab, but huh, diudnt know they have a new for of "emit" but I'm not sure what that is, I haven't had to take a u/a in years :-) I never had to deal with the labs a few years ago haha, unless my sample looked dilluted, but good luck original poster, I'm sure these guys gave you what you needed :-). And also, correct me if I'm wrong though guys, but for me, when I was in my outpatient treatment years ago, I would slip up sometimes on a Friday night and smoke around .75 grams of decent mids throughout a weekend, and dillution would be easier, if you don't smoke everyday, 4 hits, of even dro, shouldn't be too big of a nightmare, after around 12 days I was clean but I did weigh aroumd 165 then, so it doesnt neccessarily take 30 days to leave your system, and "Burnt Toast" correct me if I'm wrong, but I hear that if you don't excersise much, then you can take omega-3 fatty acids'like fish oil to speed up your metabolism, which breaks down thc faster, but for the future, I would reccomend a daily dose'of fish oil to speed up your metabolism on a daily basis for future tests, I gained weight in my first rehab, leaving at 189 lbs and I was indeed on the chubby side, and whe I got out I started taking fish oil, and I've been around 165-170 lbs for the past few years, healthy as a horse :-). I hope I helped a bit, sorry if I wrote too much for you to read :-)

Also burnt toast, since your familiar with the new age drug tests, I had a friend that told me he would stick a small bottle of' visine in one of those lighter leashes and attach the clip to the inside of a jacket sleeve with a safety pin and he claims he would pull the lighter leash through his jacket sleeve and have the visine in his hand with the lid off, and he said he had it between s palm and his penis where the supervisers can't see, and he said he would squirt as much as he could in the cup and it would dilute the urine and give a false negative for all drugs, and then he would open his hand and the lighyter leash with the visine would retract back into his sleeve unseen, does that seem legitamit? If it works and gets past the lab then that could be a neat and easy trick for us innocent pot users :-)

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Also burnt toast, since your familiar with the new age drug tests, I had a friend that told me he would stick a small bottle of' visine in one of those lighter leashes and attach the clip to the inside of a jacket sleeve with a safety pin and he claims he would pull the lighter leash through his jacket sleeve and have the visine in his hand with the lid off, and he said he had it between s palm and his penis where the supervisers can't see, and he said he would squirt as much as he could in the cup and it would dilute the urine and give a false negative for all drugs, and then he would open his hand and the lighyter leash with the visine would retract back into his sleeve unseen, does that seem legitamit? If it works and gets past the lab then that could be a neat and easy trick for us innocent pot users :-)

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Since visine is essentially salt water with trace amounts of vasoconstrictors, I suppose it is possible that it could be used to dilute the urine unnoticed. However this would be very dangerous.
It is unknown to me whether the ingredients in artificial tears could cause interference in the assay tests. Even if we were sure that would not be the case, one would have to be very careful to not dilute your urine too much. As said before, the primary methods used to validate a urine specimen are creatinine levels, specific gravity, and pH. luckily artificial tears are pretty pH neutral so that's not much of a worry. What I'd be afraid of is diluting too much and causing the creatinine levels to go too low.
Seems like a possible last resort, but by no means would be my first choice, in my opinion.

Luckily, if the urine passes the assay tests and validity tests, GC/MS is not required.

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Burnt Toast" correct me if I'm wrong, but I hear that if you don't excersise much, then you can take omega-3 fatty acids'like fish oil to speed up your metabolism, which breaks down thc faster, but for the future, I would reccomend a daily dose'of fish oil to speed up your metabolism on a daily basis for future tests,

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The downside to this if if a person has 1 week or less before the scheduled U/A, the last thing that person needs is to have his/her metabolism in high gear - particularly if that person hasnt been passing home tests. Its a common misconception that THC breaks down in the body. Thats not how the human body processes THC. THC is stored in the fat cells. When fat cells burn, the THC metabolites are released back into the bloodstream - they dont "break down" or "burn away" when fat cells burn. The kidneys filter the THC metabolites from the bloodstream and are deposited into the bladder for the eventual exit. This is the main reason why THC carries a longer detection period than other types of drugs.
So if a person is failing home tests and the scheduled U/A is less than 3 days away, then that person needs to make every effort to bring his/her metabolic rate to a crawl - curtail all fat-burning activities and be as dormant as possible until after the U/A. That way the person wont be releasing a bunch of THCA back into the bloodstream, which will end up in the urine to be detected.

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As stated previously, creatinine and S/G checks had been lab SOP in recent years, therefore, visual inspections of color is the least aspect in determing dilution. Color inspections were sufficient more than a decade ago, but that was then. The rules of the game had changed.

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That makes sense, BT. I know when I void in normal life, sometimes it's just really clear w/o me having done anything unusual and sometimes it's darker.

So if color is not a concern, sounds like the B2 is not needed, but I'll take a multivitamin beforehand because that's what I normally do. If it makes my void more yellow, great, if not, I won't sweat it.

Two other questions though:

1. Should I eat anything before my test or just the liquid diet?

2. How do we know how much Creatine supplement to take to keep our diluted urine in the “normal” range for creatinine? In the “DILUTION Tips, tricks and guidelines” post there’s a link with more info but it takes me to a dead page… I do have the 2-3 days to use the supplements and want to boost my levels to hopefully get a "pass" instead of having to retake, but how much creatine supplement is enough or how much is TOO much? (I'm about 230lbs if that helps....)

Thx

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How do we know how much Creatine supplement to take to keep our diluted urine in the “normal” range for creatinine?

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Youre not going to know - not without knowing what your "baseline" creatinine level was prior to diluting. And you will not know what your baseline level is without testing your urine with a validity test kit.
(Do a Google search for "drug adulteration test kits"...these kits will also check the S/G)

Each persons baseline creatinine level is different. Therefore, what particular dose was sufficient for one person is not necessarily enough for another person.
In order for the urine sample to be not ruled "too-diluted", the creatinine level must be over 20 mg/dL. Creatinine levels between 2-20 mg/dL are ruled too-diluted. If the urine sample is between 2-5 mg/dL, the retest will be done under direct observation. A urine sample with a creatinine level between 0-2 mg/dL is ruled "not consistent with human urine" (aka "substituted specimen").

There are no upper limits established for creatinine. As long as the creatinine level is over 20 mg, its satisfactory. However, this doesnt mean you should go overboard with creatine supps. Too much creatine can result in long unwanted bathroom sessions, sitting on the toilet seat. :eek:

Ok, makes sense. I don't see stores really advertising these, mainly websites but if I order today with overnight I can have 'em in time. So that will give me by baseline. Let's say hypothetically it's 200-250 mg/dl. How will I know how much I need to have it boosted by come test day? In other words, how do I know what the effects of the all the dilution is beforehand? Do I do a dry run?

And sorry, but what about food? Does it matter if I eat or not beforehand and if it's best to have food in the system, is there any type(s) of food(s) recommended?

Thanks again for all the info!!

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Ok, makes sense. I don't see stores really advertising these, mainly websites but if I order today with overnight I can have 'em in time. So that will give me by baseline. Let's say hypothetically it's 200-250 mg/dl. How will I know how much I need to have it boosted by come test day? In other words, how do I know what the effects of the all the dilution is beforehand? Do I do a dry run?

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You would have to do some dry runs to see.
It must be understood though that it takes 2-3 days for the body to convert creatine into creatinine and be present in the urine. So any creatine-loading must be done at least 3 days prior to the scheduled U/A (as well as any at-home validity checks used during dilution dry runs).

Thx, BT. Figured as much but wanted to be sure there wasn't a quicker/easier way. I ordered an adulteration test kit and requested overnight but I guess it was late enough in the afternoon that it won't ship till tomorrow and will deliver on Monday and I *may* have to pee that day (am hoping to be able to stall to Tue or Wed, but we'll see). If I can do a dry run I of course will, but for now was thinking of this for my plan B in case I can't and am curious on your thoughts.

I tested negative with my home test the other night but I drank a lot of fluids beforehand (about 20 oz of Gatorade followed by 20 oz of water). But as mentioned after drinking almost nothing last night, I also did a first void test just this a.m. and it too came back negative. I have one test left so I'll do another first void tomorrow too and see how that comes out. Assuming that is my 3rd negative home test in 4 days -- 2 of them being first voids -- I would think I might even be ok doing nothing before my screen but I don't want to risk it, so was going to:

1. Start using creatine supplements tomorrow. Nothing crazy, but maybe a little more than the recommended amount.
2. Use some of the dilution tips, but in more moderation: maybe drink 32-48 oz of water or gatorade an hour or two before the test.
3. As mentioned, I'll take a multivitamin an hour before but am really not worried what this does or doesn't do for the color of my void since it doesn't sound like they focus on that as much as creatine level and S/G.
4. Be SURE I don't give them my first void of the day (which would be hard to do obviously if I drink 32-48 oz of ANYTHING before I leave for the test; I'll obviously have to pee at home before I leave).
5. In the test, I will be sure to catch my sample in the cup midstream so they don't get the first urine leaving my body.

What do you think? Obviously a more thorough means of dilution would be better in most cases, but assuming my 3rd test tomorrow morning (my 2nd using first void) is again negative, I would think I'm putting myself at unnecessary risk of needing a re-test if I go all out in diluting. Subbing is a sure fire thing assuming you don't get busted doing it and/or the temp of your sub specimen is ok, but that makes me really nervous and again, given my specific circumstances, seems a bit overkill-ish.

So what do you think of my plan and what would you do in my shoes?

Ok, so I did my third test this morning about 6 a.m., first void after having drunk nothing at all since last night around 7pm. The instructions with the test say a faint line or even a line with a break in the middle is still a negative and I've read enough to know that faint vs. darker doesn't matter. A line is a line. My initial test using first void produced a light but clearly visible line with a small break in the middle: __ __

Not concerned there though because there is a picture of that very thing in the instructions saying it still indicates negative. Only thing that concerns me is that my test this morning, the line was fainter (which doesn't really matter I know...), but also instead of a full line or a full line with a break in the middle, it was only half a line.

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So this was not as comforting as I hoped and I called the help # in the drug test instructions. The lady said what I described would also be considered a negative test, but then asked if I'd used marijuana and I told her yes, 4 puffs in the last 28 days with the most recent being 9/7. Her comments were: "That's not good. THC is released from your fat at different intervals depending on a lot of variables including exercise, etc., so just because you test negative one morning or even two with our test doesn't guarantee you will on another test by someone else later that day or on another day."

And that's nothing I didn't know, but it would SEEM with three negative tests in three days, 2 of them using first voids, that if I test here in a few days and use some mild dilution (32-48 oz of Gatorade and/or water) and start creatine supplements now to get that built up in my system, that I would most likely pass.

Or is this too risky? I *hate* the idea of subbing as it makes me nervous as all hell, but I simply *can't* fail this test!

Any thoughts, suggestions?