In need of some FEEDBACK! Help a girl out??

Hi friends!
Recently have been 'observing' the grow cycle of 3 seeds that were planted 3 weeks ago from today..
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Lighting: 12/12 (due to some location restrictions) iPower400 watt MH and good air circulation.
Here are the babies..
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how do they look??
They are currently in doubled solo cups..
not sure of the strain or anything.. Not even sure if they are females.. But I figured it was worth a try.
I also heard once the starter leaves die off -which they are- to start fertilizing. Not sure how much to give, or when to give? They are 3 weeks old.
SUGGESTIONS please!!!!! Thank you ;)

12/12 will induce weak growth and flowering sooner than you want...unless they are autos. otherwise they need 18 on 6 off. no need for ferts for a while since the soil already has it. may never need to give them ferts til the near the end just before flush if at all. they look fine so far and they dont know if they are females yet either they wont know until it gets closer to flowering time.

I hope the soil is more than the peat moss. Yes?

Read, Read & then Read some more..... Tons of info out there

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Not bad. You might consider that when time to transplant, to put them into potting soil. 5 gallon buckets each full of soil. You could probably continue with just the sphagnum, but you'd have to use fertilizer. Be careful how much you use. Make sure it has trace elements like boron, sulphur, etc. Miracle Grow fert has this stuff but the NPK seems to be too much for this kind of plant. I usually recommend Dynagro and I'm sure people here are tired of hearing it. But it works good for soil grows. Just follow the direction on the back. There are small 8 or 9 ounce bottles available out there. Schultz brand seems to be good too. There are almost too many ferts to choose from. You'll have to decide what to do.

I figured with the light times :( location will be changing in about 3 wks.. Think they can wait till then without being stunted ??
& so far yes for that being the only soil I use .. I would love to hear about some good mixtures to use before I transplant them :D
Thanks for the advice guys, your the best!

Three weeks, they will but on some size, if you treat them right and are patient. Going to need more than cups, transplant at least as soon as roots are emerging from holes in bottom of cup. Might also work your way up to the five fall bucket in stages.

5 gallon buckets will be great. Soil I have found differs with growers. Personally use 1 part Canadian peat, 1 part cow manure & 1 part Perlite with a little vermiculite for extra added drainage but can amend to your needs! Shovel may be able to help with that. When you say location are you implying an inside/outdoor thingy? Sounds cool bro! Peace be upon you.


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Yeah I plan on putting them into a big planter, then after that permantely into 5gal planters.. They will be strictly indoor; I was starting them off for a friend who will permantely house them once she gets back into town (which is in about 2 1/2 weeks or so) .. There, they can keep the lighting 18/6; instead if 12/12 by my place.

Another Q: how far should the light be from the babies? Right now their about a foot and a half from the leaves.. Seems like they are loving it? Their starting to get more and more sets of leaves by the day...

Thanks again loves!! :hippy:

a foot and a half unless plants show stress, then more.

You mean the sun, right?

This plan is getting complicated.

It's about a foot and half now..
The plan will be less complicated once their where they are supposed to be with adequate lighting lol

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Well it has most definitely been a while since I have updated on these plants.. Lighting has been a difficult thing for their location but they look better than ever (in my opinion) They must be at least 6+weeks now?? Probably more. They are getting part natural light part MH light.. Watering every other day. The tips of the plant don't seem to be getting burned or crispy as they were before. They are a bit stringy now, but I see many leaves growing around it slowly but surely. And suggestions??

Confused on why you can't go to a 18/6 lighting schedule?...where do live that has restrictions like that?

Just not able to, don't have a tent, lights too bright.. :mad:

your plants are stretching because they need stronger light more consistantly. until you can fix that itll keep slowly chugging along and stay wispy. no way to toss up a tarp or something to make it so you can keep it under the light 18/6?

Hi guys! So it's been about 2 months since I updated... Out of the 3 plants two ended up being female! One is about 2ft, the other a little over a foot? Very stringy.. But managed to see some life in them (not to their full potential though :( ) their lighting was inconsistent and I did not use any fert either. Kinda was just wingin' it! Here they are.... ALSO their leaves seem to be dying off :( is the plant dying.. Ready to harvest? Should I keep it going till everything begins to die off? So inexperienced hahah

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These were from the biggest and tallest one .. Here is the runt of the liter :/....

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Maybe try again starting with and staying with a 3 gallon container. Use ocean forest potting soil. Won't have to transplant and the soil will feed them for at least a month. Looks like you need more/longer lighting. The tarp idea was a good one.best

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Maybe try again starting with and staying with a 3 gallon container. Use ocean forest potting soil. Won't have to transplant and the soil will feed them for at least a month. Looks like you need more/longer lighting. The tarp idea was a good one.best

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Thanks for the input, we are definitely gonna try new things.. It was our first run. Lighting and all..
When should I harvest these little things or what? Lol thanks guys! :thumbsup:

looks like they have a ways yo go yet. when did flower start.. add 60 days to that number and your starting to get a ballpark number on the finish.. need info to tell harvest time. Keep an eye on the pistils once they start to turn a reddish brown harvest is near. May want to get yourself something to look at the tricombs with like A jewelers loop or mini microscope. Radioshack sells one for under $15

not sure on timing as i am winging it too ! lol.. but i do have the good good seeds ready to go just want to work out any kinks i may have ( which at this point is alot, just was under a tight budget at first.. pumping more money into my budget first of the month so hopefully can save what i got now ) ... but cant wait . mine are not quiet lanky as your are because i have been prunning/topping ( done once to each plant ) and it is sprouting new limbs as i type this lol.. reading this will help me out some. i hope everything works out when you harvested? you aught to post a picture of the harvest :rastasmoke:

So... A little update on the girls; the tallest one has grown a bit since the last time I was on here.. & the small girl is still pretty tiny. But her top bud is getting fatter by the week lol I guess that's fine with me. - Someone was telling me that if you pinch the tip of the females early they bush out and stop from getting stringy? Well their pistils are getting reddish brown and smelling amazing. But the big girl seems to still be flowering... I guess I'll wait it out, still can't hardly wait such a newb.:D here's some pics c :

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And the baby..
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Fortunately - The only things it needs to grow is water, and light. The reason we use nutrients is so we can increase harvest size. Has nothing to do with quality, only quantity. Now, even in the wild these plants would have looked much healthier - But hey, on her first attempt she was successfully able to finish the bloom cycle.

Not all of us can say that.

Just my opinion - Good work, but lots of space for improvement

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By no means were these trophy plants, at all lol.. But I'll try again soon. Thanks for the encouragement guys :-) I'm just happy ill have something to smoke lol ill keep you guys updated... So you can help me out harvest time :jointsmile:

congrats,

now that wasnt so bad.

Cheers!

The reason we use nutrients is so we can increase harvest size. Has nothing to do with quality, only quantity.

I have to disagree on that one, low. Using no nutrients will not grow a quality product. Go cheap, harvest cheap. I know a few people that do that every year, they are still waiting for that 'magic bean' that will grow the killer smoke. I've given them breeder seeds and they get pretty much the same meh results.

Congrats to Arijuana for finishing a first grow and thanks for posting the log. Every experience is good experience.

We'll have to stay in our own corners on that one then. I've grown plenty out with no nutes I even accidentally once grew out a WW (no idea how, but somehow a WW seed dropped down into one of my soil grows during flower... Only got 3 grams, but it was some tasty shit) Now, granted, there were some nutes in the bucket it dropped into. I have however had accidental grows under windows from tossing seeds out of baggies that still produced quality smoke.

Test the theory out. Two plants, same medium, feed one, and only water the other. Taste will be similar, its just yield that won't be.

A big fan of the "agree to disagree" school of thought. Anarchy rules the day! Peace


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Fortunately - The only things it needs to grow is water, and light. The reason we use nutrients is so we can increase harvest size. Has nothing to do with quality, only quantity.

Why don't you grow out a plant using just a vessel of water and light and show us how that works. No soil, (nutrients are in soil) no dirt either. Post photos, maybe we can play guess the deficiencies.

Peace.

Lemme get setup again (remember just moved) and we'll play that. Red solo cup time :D

Let the games begin!


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@AriJuana Congratulations, you made it through a full cycle. Bet you have learned a lot and will do much better the second time around. You also managed to inadvertently set off a interesting debate.

I would bet the house that well conditioned soil, with no added nutes, will perform just as well as inferior soil that is heavily fertilized. The old saying "feed the soil, not the plant" works best for the long haul. In good soil, light and water is all that is needed to grow a quality harvest. If the soil has all the nutes a plant needs then adding nutes may actually have an adverse effect.

A plant grown on straight water will die. Lack of nitrogen will prevent the plant from growing more that a couple of nodes before it begins to consume itself. Take a clone and stick it in water. How long does it take for the lower leaves to start to yellow? Once the plant cannibalizes all the nitrogen from the lower leaves there is nothing left for new growth and the plant dies. There is really no other end result to this scenario without adding nutes.

I would like to see a side by side grow where the medium is a quality, organic/ compost soil. One plant gets only water and light and the other the same with added nutes. Maybe even do 4 nute plants at 1/4 strength, 1/2, 3/4, and full. In this scenario I would bet on the straight soil outperforming the full strength and the 3/4. Not so sure on the other two plants.