God and Aliens

I wanted to start this thread because i wanted everybody's opinion. I believe that there is a superior being, not necessarily god. I also believe that we are not alone, If anybody in their right mind looked up at the sky they should say that "we are not alone". there are over 10 million galaxy's in the whole universe we have not explored, we haven't even explored our whole universe yet as we are still discovering planets in our milky way galaxy. Aliens and God are very similar, we have no substancial proof that either of them exist, the only proof is what we have heard. Since alot of us humans think and rely on the fact that there is only one god, and some of us believe in aliens, and even some believe in both. I wanted to end with a ?. Do you think that there is a god for aliens and humans or seperate god's or even if you think that they both dont exist. If so , where is god?, and where are the aliens?

God... non - existent (sorry if anyone believe in god, personal opinion) Aliens, they have to fucking exist! I mean what the hell. Billions upon billions of planets and nothing else on them but inert gasses and rocks. Not fucking likely. If there is life on other planets they may be more evolved or less evolved but i totally think there is something out there doing what we have done in the past or doing what we will develope in our future. We will eventually meet something...

http://skeptic.com
will open your eyes

yes man i beleive in aliens. thats almost a fact. i mean, universe is sooooooooooo big, almost infinite, how could we be alone? the probabilties that we are alone in the universe are lower then wining 10 times in a row 10 millions $ at loto.

and i dont beleive really in a god, but im still open minded as for an existent superior force, or anything. and it is nowhere, if theres a god, it cant be material, it cant be understood. god, if he exists, have to be everywhere. god is life, god is all what exist. he is all and nothing at the same time.

answer = there ARE aliens, liek the guy above stated about all the billions and billions of planets and the millions of universes, are we so fucking ignorant to think we are the ONLY living thing in it all? NO WAY BITCHES.

There are millions of different races spread throughout our universe. The reason some of them haven't just come out and revealed themselves...because it would cause so much war and contraversy on earth. Not to mention Bush would be so quick to Blow them out of the sky with our ever-so-republican idea of 'star wars'. Star Wars is just the stupidest idea a president could have. It was proposed by Reagen in the 70's and is still isnt in effect.

I believe in extra intelligence 100%. And i'm still waiting to be abducted. Take me away from this shit-hole for a planet. I'm not the one who trashed it, so why should I suffer.

If there is no God explain the way the world is at the moment.i do not mean politics etc i mean everything. people, animals, plants all cohabiting perfectly.
Aliens. more than likely probability alone suggests this.

If there is though what are the chances of two or more perfectly formed and run planets without a creator???

think on..

The same entity that spoke to moses in the bible (the burning bush) who is Kryon (www.kryon.com) said thier are aliens thier space ships are made out of a material that has negative mass like if a pencil had negative mass it would shoot through the cieling and fly away. I believe the government has an alien corpse and spaceship peieces from 1 or more that crashed here on earth. God is the same for every being God is love if you dont believe in god then you dont believe in love. I understand why people dont believe in God, because it is construed as an actual being when in fact we are all peices of God there is no person named "God" that sits up in heaven(which exists but is fake, formed from belief).Also Twoshots there was no "creater" the universe always just was here humans have a hard time believing there was no beginning and there will be no end the universe just IS.

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Originally Posted by Twoshots

If there is no God explain the way the world is at the moment.i do not mean politics etc i mean everything. people, animals, plants all cohabiting perfectly.
Aliens. more than likely probability alone suggests this.

If there is though what are the chances of two or more perfectly formed and run planets without a creator???

think on..

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There's a good deal of explanation for all life-forms and matter through gradual physical processes over billions of years. and even if there wasn't, that only means we've yet to explain it. Every argument I've ever heard for the existence of god is "we can't explain it, so the credit goes to god by default".

Every argument I've ever heard for the existence of god is "we can't explain it, so the credit goes to god by default".




Exactly! That's the downfall in human religions.

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no god in my opinion. aliens proberly exist but i doubt strongly they ever came to the earth on ufo's.

I just wonder if aliens have the concept of god.

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"If there is no God explain the way the world is at the moment.i do not mean politics etc i mean everything. people, animals, plants all cohabiting perfectly."

What else would there be?

Well the 'UFO' craze was obviously sparked by government devolopement and testing of special weapons, aircrafts ect.. during the coldwar. That's my speculation. But I do believe that aliens have reached earth and have contacted people. If they have the technology to reach earth, i'm sure they have the technology to remain undercover.

This quotation, unfortunatly, does not prove or disprove anything. The old saying "The burden of proof is on the believer" is very much true. Additionally, your statement that, "everything. people, animals, plants all cohabiting perfectly", is entirely false. There is nothing at all "perfect" in anything we know. If there was an intelligent supreme being, capable of anything, then there probably would be complete harmony and peace in the world. We've never had, and probably never will have, such a situation.

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Originally Posted by Dick Justice

I just wonder if aliens have the concept of god.

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"If there is no God explain the way the world is at the moment.i do not mean politics etc i mean everything. people, animals, plants all cohabiting perfectly."

What else would there be?

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Well I was just quoting somebody else and adding my response, I don't think the world is perfect. I actually read a really good thing in the New Yorker that disproves the idea of Intelligent Design. One of the examples used was a bacteria that has a bunch of different proteins involved in operating its flagellate, and if it lacks any one of those proteins it can't move and it will die. ID advocates point to that sort of thing as a perfect balance in the world, but they neglect the possibility that the bacteria began with only one protein and as it grew more complex, became dependent on the others it added. The metaphor they used was a shop on a street attracting different businesses, which in turn complement each other and bolster each other's business (ie, internet club does well because it opens next to Starbucks).

So yeah, that wasn't my point, I was just commenting on it.

Everyone who looks for God will find him. Those who disagree don't have the will, nor probably the mental capacity of handling what is a superior power as He.

Don't think i'm ultra religious, i go to church twice a year. christmas eve and easter. And I leave after i get the bread!!! I barely believe in many church teachings, but I have formed my own opinions and beliefs which have repeatedly been proven true and only true.

Moving on, anyone who can guess correctly where this quote comes from has my eternal respect:

"Alien lifeforms do exist. There is reccomended documentation proving the fact that they are in existance and do live in outer space. You can argue the points but the proof is there"

And yes i do think they exist. We wouldn't be God's only creations in the entire universe.

I didn't used to believe in anything, but after acid and ecstasy I started to buy into the idea of a God-mind as each cell is to an organism. Now I'm pretty sure there's something there, but I'm not sure it's a sentient intelligence that directly creates things.

Yes I do believe in a god, but I do not believe in aliens.

HI Pureevil760
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Also Twoshots there was no "creater" the universe always just was here humans have a hard time believing there was no beginning and there will be no end the universe just IS.

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Please explain how you get something from nothing?
And no I dony want to hear ok then who put God here.
As an ordinary lowly human I do not expect to understand all but all I have to do is believe. There is far to much going on for it to be just is.
It didnt suddenly materialise over time.
Get a petri dish in a vacuumed area with nothing in it completely sterile and see if in 2 billion years you gete a race of beings..don`t think so.

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HI Pureevil760
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Please explain how you get something from nothing?
And no I dony want to hear ok then who put God here.
As an ordinary lowly human I do not expect to understand all but all I have to do is believe. There is far to much going on for it to be just is.
It didnt suddenly materialise over time.
Get a petri dish in a vacuumed area with nothing in it completely sterile and see if in 2 billion years you gete a race of beings..don`t think so.

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Who ever said we got something from nothing? That's what the Bible says, but I'd hardly call that a scientific journal.... The Big Bang didn't create something from nothing. The theory says that all matter was condensed into one infinitely small point with an infinitely big mass. When this point started expanding at incredible speeds, that's what we call the Big Bang. Now where did this original point come from? That's still a mystery, but I don't see any "something from nothing" anywhere.

Like I said humans have difficulty understanding it, twoshots just proved my point.

Personally I believe Aliens are demons of some sort!,the scriptures say that the demons were cast into the 3rd heaven! thats outer space..and if you ever see a depiction of any kind of alien more so the greys,they look like they have no soul almost soulless......

The aliens are "god"... at least according to an increasingly popular view that what we call god was in fact a race of gods and godesses who tampered with our genes several thousand years ago to make us smart enough to be slaves to 'em. (you can see that humans are the only animal on earth with a line of horizontal DNA. The word God in the bible is substituted for a number of different words in the original hebrew texts. Elohim (plurality meaning gods and goddesses) is the most commonly seen word, but nephilhim, adoni, YHWY and several other words are used to refer to separate entities in the torah. When you put these words back into the bible many things make more sense. for example: And God said let US create man in OUR own image. (you all know the idea of the holy trinity wasn't introduced until the 3rd or 4th century) If you substitute Elohim back in, that sentence makes a lot more sense.

Also, there' the whole symbol for medicine argument.... You know the symbol, the two snakes intwined... it looks astonishingly similar to the double-helix of DNA... We've used this symbol for medicine for all of recorded history dating back to 7000 years ago in sumeria if not longer.

Of course we'd worship a race that was capable of space travel and all sorts of percieved magic to the mind of primitive man.

I need another bowl.

if it is that we started off as no more then a jelly fish type of thing then evolved to a fish, then to a reptile, then to a monkey, then to a human.. what is there to say that we can not evolve even more to a jesus(god) like healing all loving all knowing higher being....
we are truely more than the sum of are parts!! of this im sure.....


(AND THE BEAT GO,S ON.....AND THE BEAT GO,S ON....ECT)

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if it is that we started off as no more then a jelly fish type of thing then evolved to a fish, then to a reptile, then to a monkey, then to a human.. what is there to say that we can not evolve even more to a jesus(god) like healing all loving all knowing higher being....
we are truely more than the sum of are parts!! of this im sure.....


(AND THE BEAT GO,S ON.....AND THE BEAT GO,S ON....ECT)

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I totally agree, we can become so much more. of course in the way of mental evolution, this is the whole theory behind buddhism, that by reaching enlightenment, one attains the ultimate, perfect form of consciousness.