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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
hey guys, first post here on the website, hopefully i can get some help!
alright, so right now im in a situation where ill be getting piss tested once every two weeks. obviously, im suppose to abstain from use for a while. i attempted to use the dilution method once, but i failed to raise my creatine levels and specific gravity enough to suffice for the test. im not playing around anymore, and i plan to pass my next test.
id like to use substitution, but i will be watched almost for sure every time. my only option is dilution or being clean, and i dont really want to do the latter. ive read the dilution thread countless times, but im really not sure how i should be doing this.
im 5,4, 190 lb(i know im a bit chubby) male, i was a chronic toker for about 6 weeks, and had to stop cold turkey about a week ago. in another week, i will be tested, and from then on every 2 weeks i will be tested. i have to do dilution, and i cant afford to fail more than one more test (for my situation at least) but i dont know if ill be clean by then, and quite frankly, i dont want to be.
for my next test, i plan to eat plenty of red meat a few days before, i already have 3, 2,500 doses of B12 ready to go, and i will follow the water drinking method closely(hopefully ill be able to hold it in) i might buy a bottle of gatorade too just to be safe. the test is done in a lab, not a dab so its relatively accurate.
ok, so i guess my question is, will this be enough? do you think i can still toke throughout this time, and if yes, how often and how much? im fine with working out some kind of schedule, my test will always be tuesday night, so i can go like the couple days after the test and then be clean the rest if that will work. any advice would be highly appreciated, and im sorry if this question is really similar to others, but im not sure what to do here. thanks for all the help!
P.S- are LSD and shrooms tested for? im pretty sure they arent for my test, if it turns out that i cant smoke my drug of choice, then i might do those occasionally just to keep myself occupied until this whole situation blows over.
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
For your first question, nobody can give you that answer. Youd have to do a few practice drills with dilution and test your efforts with an adulteration test kit. These kits check the creatinine and S/G and are available online by doing a Google search.
As far as your P.S. goes, only cannabis can be discussed in these forums. Other types of drugs are off-topic and are not up for any discussion in the forums. Sorry.
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
maybe some creatnine pills would help get your levels up. i'm sure they don't have an upper limit. red meat..aahhhh yeah there is creatnine in it but not like a lot of people are saying. 1 serving of bodybuilding creatnine is like 10lbs of redmeat.
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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Originally Posted by biggmoneyme
maybe some creatnine pills would help get your levels up. i'm sure they don't have an upper limit. red meat..aahhhh yeah there is creatnine in it but not like a lot of people are saying. 1 serving of bodybuilding creatnine is like 10lbs of redmeat.
so those pills are really my best bet? do those help with specific gravity too?
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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Originally Posted by xThunder
so those pills are really my best bet? do those help with specific gravity too?
Nope. For S/G, use Gatorade in place of water. Read up on N2's Dilution "sticky" thread at the front of the DT forum front page.
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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Originally Posted by xThunder
hey guys, first post here on the website, hopefully i can get some help!
alright, so right now im in a situation where ill be getting piss tested once every two weeks. obviously, im suppose to abstain from use for a while. i attempted to use the dilution method once, but i failed to raise my creatine levels and specific gravity enough to suffice for the test. im not playing around anymore, and i plan to pass my next test.
id like to use substitution, but i will be watched almost for sure every time. my only option is dilution or being clean, and i dont really want to do the latter. ive read the dilution thread countless times, but im really not sure how i should be doing this.
im 5,4, 190 lb(i know im a bit chubby) male, i was a chronic toker for about 6 weeks, and had to stop cold turkey about a week ago. in another week, i will be tested, and from then on every 2 weeks i will be tested. i have to do dilution, and i cant afford to fail more than one more test (for my situation at least) but i dont know if ill be clean by then, and quite frankly, i dont want to be.
for my next test, i plan to eat plenty of red meat a few days before, i already have 3, 2,500 doses of B12 ready to go, and i will follow the water drinking method closely(hopefully ill be able to hold it in) i might buy a bottle of gatorade too just to be safe. the test is done in a lab, not a dab so its relatively accurate.
ok, so i guess my question is, will this be enough? do you think i can still toke throughout this time, and if yes, how often and how much? im fine with working out some kind of schedule, my test will always be tuesday night, so i can go like the couple days after the test and then be clean the rest if that will work. any advice would be highly appreciated, and im sorry if this question is really similar to others, but im not sure what to do here. thanks for all the help!
P.S- are LSD and shrooms tested for? im pretty sure they arent for my test, if it turns out that i cant smoke my drug of choice, then i might do those occasionally just to keep myself occupied until this whole situation blows over.
Exercise and stay hydrated. Stop exercising a couple of days before your test.
Do some dillution the morning of the test. Use your midstream urine, pee a little in the toilet first, then put a couple ounces in the collection cup and then pee the rest in the toilet. Stay clean and your thc levels will slowly decline. They'll probably tell you that you will be clean in a week, not so. Could take at least a month and maybe 2 months before you get below the 50ng cutoff level. Don't mess with subbing for a court ordered drug test unless you like jail.
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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Originally Posted by killerweed420
Exercise and stay hydrated. Stop exercising a couple of days before your test.
Do some dillution the morning of the test. Use your midstream urine, pee a little in the toilet first, then put a couple ounces in the collection cup and then pee the rest in the toilet. Stay clean and your thc levels will slowly decline. They'll probably tell you that you will be clean in a week, not so. Could take at least a month and maybe 2 months before you get below the 50ng cutoff level. Don't mess with subbing for a court ordered drug test unless you like jail.
why dilute the morning of the test? so i probably can even blaze a day or two after my test and come out clean with dilution in the next 12 days?
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
Nope. For S/G, use Gatorade in place of water. Read up on N2's Dilution "sticky" thread at the front of the DT forum front page.
does it really do that much? i drank a whole bottle of gatorade last time with 3 bottles of cranberry juice in addition to the water and my S/G was still too low, could that be because i drank so much? im pretty sure i overdid it because by the time i finally got to piss in the cup, i was draining for like 2 minutes there was so much.
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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i drank a whole bottle of gatorade last time with 3 bottles of cranberry juice in addition to the water and my S/G was still too low
Gatorade comes in many different size bottles. How many fl. oz of gatorade did you drink? Perhaps you shouldve used gatorade in place of the water and cranberry juice.
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why dilute the morning of the test?
Why wouldnt you want to dilute on the morning of the U/A, considering that dilution techniques are useless when utilized days before the U/A?
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
Gatorade comes in many different size bottles. How many fl. oz of gatorade did you drink? Perhaps you shouldve used gatorade in place of the water and cranberry juice.
Why wouldnt you want to dilute on the morning of the U/A, considering that dilution techniques are useless when utilized days before the U/A?
i drank a 32 oz bottle of gatorade. yeah, this time ill only use gatorade i guess.
because my test is at night, around 6:30, i thought you werent supposed to begin dilution until 4 hours before the test.
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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Originally Posted by xThunder
why dilute the morning of the test? so i probably can even blaze a day or two after my test and come out clean with dilution in the next 12 days?
Just drink fluids a couple hours before the test. If this is a court ordered test it would be stupid to play the dillution game to keep trying to get a couple puffs in. Wait until probation is done and then you can smoke all you want.
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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Originally Posted by killerweed420
Just drink fluids a couple hours before the test. If this is a court ordered test it would be stupid to play the dillution game to keep trying to get a couple puffs in. Wait until probation is done and then you can smoke all you want.
it isnt court ordered, i really just cant fail the tests, but i dont want to remain clean.
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
If its not a court-ordered drug test, then who is making you take a drug test?
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
If its not a court-ordered drug test, then who is making you take a drug test?
my dad pretty much forced me to do this addiction group(for pot, i know right) and every other week, i have to take a piss test and its sent a lab. its only for 11 more weeks regardless of if im clean or not, but id highly prefer to pass the tests just so he isnt disappointed in me. no, im not underage, but im doing it to make him feel better about me as a person since he wasnt too happy i was smoking pot(i told him i stopped) but if i fail the tests, then really no good comes out of it.
BTW, does poultry contain creatine?
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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BTW, does poultry contain creatine?
Not nearly as much in comparison to red meat. But if youre looking for an alternative to red meat, consider fish.
Other than that, creatine supps are the way to go. Whichever source you choose, be sure to do your creatine loading at least 3 days before the scheduled U/A to allow time for the body to convert creatine into creatinine (the end waste product that is present in urine).
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i'm sure they don't have an upper limit.
Thats right. There are no upper limits established for creatinine. As long as the creatinine level is above 20 mg/dL, its satisfactory.
However, this doesnt mean one should go overboard with creatine-loading. Doing so can result in long unwanted bathroom sessions, sitting on the toilet seat. :eek:
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
Not nearly as much in comparison to red meat. But if youre looking for an alternative to red meat, consider fish.
Other than that, creatine supps are the way to go. Whichever source you choose, be sure to do your creatine loading at least 3 days before the scheduled U/A to allow time for the body to convert creatine into creatinine (the end waste product that is present in urine).
Thats right. There are no upper limits established for creatinine. As long as the creatinine level is above 20 mg/dL, its satisfactory.
However, this doesnt mean one should go overboard with creatine-loading. Doing so can result in long unwanted bathroom sessions, sitting on the toilet seat. :eek:
thank you for all the responses, they have helped me a lot.
so just as a closing question, if i leave at least a week of clean time, creatine load, drink purely gatorade instead of water, and take B12, then i should be able to pass each drug test most likely?
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First post, kind of in a tricky situation
alright, test is tomorrow at about 6:30, been creatine loading like crazy the past few days, if i eat any more red meat i think ill pop. i have 3 bottles of gatorade ready, plenty of B12, and ive been clean for 2 weeks. hopefully this will work, i just have one question. if i have to hold my piss in for like an hour and a half, will it mess up the dilution? ill still have voided diluted urine and all of that, but at one point i might have to hold my piss in for a little over an hour, and it would be pretty disheartening if i did all this and failed because of that. should i bring a bottle of gatorade with me and slowly drink it throughout the hour?