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Curious as to a general feeding schedule growing outdoors? Full Flower X 6 weeks now. Using Fox Farm Nutes including Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom & "Cha Ching", Thanks
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Curious as to a general feeding schedule growing outdoors? Full Flower X 6 weeks now. Using Fox Farm Nutes including Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom & "Cha Ching", Thanks
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Forgot to add some pics so you can judge & give advice. New to "Outdoor Growing"
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Here ya go man everything ya need from the company, ya need to use goggle bro its a growers answer for just about anything.
http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/FoxFarm-Soil-Schedule.pdf
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I'm there, Thought maybe an "Amended" schedule? The girls are doing fine I guess. Thanks
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Been feeding 2 X weekly. 1 heavy feed included in this schedule visa vie...v Lite Feed = 3 Tbs Big Bloom & 2 Tbs Tiger Bloom & a dash of Cha Ching/Gallon H20. Heavy feed = 1/2 Cup Big Bloom/3 Tbs Tiger Bloom & a dash of Cha Ching.
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Obviously the 1st feed is a "Light Feed"..... visa vie 2-3 Tbs Big Bloom & 2 Tbs Tiger Bloom & a dash of Cha Ching/Gallon H20. Heavy feed = 1/2 Cup Big Bloom/3 Tbs Tiger Bloom & a dash of Cha Ching. ****Feeding is Twice Weekly****. This has been working for me in this environment, Everything is dependent on Your climate!
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Are your plants in the ground or in pots? Watch out on the Cha Ching its best to use a bit closer to flowering time. Its some very heavy shit man and can only help at the end by getting more resins in the bud, but wait to use it about week 9 or a couple weeks before harvest. Its very different growing outside with ferts, i have used the same but something like a MG fert would help ya better. Its only that the roots get so damn deep outside most of your ferts get lost.
Best thing you could do for them is to make sure all the weeds and growth around the plant is pulled as it will rob your plant of any nutes an water ya give them. Can ya put a pic up of the area around the plants and have you sexed them yet or were they clones? I use the Fox Farm inside only because of the price, thats why i suggested the MG ferts till they get good size buds, then start to cut down on the Nitrogen. The plants then should start to get yellow leaves from the lack of N, but this is what ya want. Trust me ya do not want to smoke buds that taste like the ferts, i did on my first grow and was nasty as hell. But in my Sig there is a re veg grow i did and used some of the Fox Farm stuff, but because of its cost, i used a general fert to get them big and latter feed them the bud building nutes. Have you grown before outside, its much easier then inside for sure and those FF nutes will help, but i would go with something cheaper for now, but thats on you man. Wait till you see them puff up before you harvest as they will almost double in size overnight, its a trip to see just how bigger they get in a short period of time. Then flush well with unsulfured molasses, just a tbs per gallon will do it, but ya dont want all them salts in and around your roots, the buds will taste bad. Get ya high, but still its not something ya want.
Keep er green bro,
LSY
Here's the deal... All in 5 gallon containers, 2 of the 19 are HUGE... The remaining 17 are growing real slow??b Just starting to bud up. & yea been using the 3 nutes. Again, they're growing Just slow. Could this be my issue?
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So, The reason for "slow growth' could be as simple as 15 hour days which leaves me with a 9 hour dark period. This could well be the reason for slow flowering BUT my question is why are these 2 going bonkers?
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[quote=Esteban1]So, The reason for "slow growth' could be as simple as 15 hour days which leaves me with a 9 hour dark period. This could well be the reason for slow flowering BUT my question is why are these 2 going bonkers?
Ok i need a bit of background info on the strains and were they inside before putting them out and were they starting to bud before you put them out? It looks to me like the plant in the black 5gal had went hermy or its a male. In less your growing autos your plants should not be in bud yet man, they should start to flower only when the light is closer to 12 hours light and 12 hours dark. So if ya had them inside and brought them out with that 15/9 lighting your plants are freaking out
only as you posted the "Inside/Out pic's" so i guess i need to know if ya started them inside and the light schedule you used.
If ya did start them inside then its way to early to put them out now. Look on the plants for balls as this would be bad thing now, sorry to be the barer of bad news. But if ya have any that dont, i would take them back in and put them on a 18/6 light schedule to get them back into veg. Or even try and find a dark bag or box to put over them so the get a light period of 12/12, this is when they flower as in nature fall is the time when outside plants flower, but of course begin to start at around 12-13 hours of light.
I have not looked at the plants that are budding yet, but if you see balls on it, pull them fuckers off asap, you will get hermied up plants that you dont want. The key here is that a plant will stay in the vegetative state at around 18/6 and flower at 12/12 so if they had began to flower inside and then were put out with a 15/9 light then they could easily hermy. So as you see im needing more info for sure, but in the mean time only use the veg nutes, the Grow Big only and try to get them back to veg or i guarantee they will all hermy on you. I had grown 2 plants once and they were started outside, which is fine and even ok to start them inside, but gotta keep them in veg when putting them outside. Now mine seemed ok till i started smoking it, white seeds everyplace and not very potent, i found out later that my daughter was turning on the porch light for my g/f working 2nd shift, this messed up its light/dark period and the result was Hermie's. But this was my first real try at it a long ass time ago and even took a year to realize they were indeed Hermy's as i was reading. Reading and more reading will help ya as a grower, i still read everyday about something.
Now like i said you can trick the plants by covering them after 12 hours of light, but make sure there is air flow from under the plants. It is something that would need to be done everyday or it will not work, this is why its a good idea to never put a flowering plant out at this time. Best to put them out in veg or just start them and keep them outside. Now obviously i dont know these answers iv ask yet, but looking at the second pic not above, but the 3 pics you put up. The 2nd pic, 1st plant is a hermy or male, i cant see the whole plant, but if it was put out in flower im thinking it is a hermy. If the balls open pollen will come out and hit every plant that has a pistil on it or bud and will be seeded up. One thing about this is if it is a true hermy the pollen from it gets on a female plant, the seeds will be femanized seeds, but hermy pron
Let me know on the info and stop the flower nutes for sure, you want them back to veg if your going to leave them outside. And find someplace or something to cut that light to 12/12 for them to bud, this is the only way and def cut the Cha Ching, the stuff is way to much at this point.
I will stop back after you post, and if possible put more pics up, its much more easy to tell.
LSY
Think you may be absolutely correct. Again 2 are flowering great & no.... haven't a clue as to the strains of the 2? We haven't hit the solstice yet so some flowering & no not hermed out.... Just in veg with some "pre flowers". That's my take. The 1st jpeg are the 2 that are flowering great.... The second set of pics are just growing slow in veg!! Will continue with "Big Bloom" & as you stated cut the "Cha Ching". So, with this said... advise other than taking these back inside which is not an option?
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The two budding i would cover after 12 hours of light and allow 12 hours dark, i understand nothing seems wrong, but they will go hermy given the time man. I thought i saw seeds in the bud, but not sure with only a pic, but save them for sure. I cant explain why they did bud like they did, but only the strain or they were more in flower when they were put out, but to be honest i think luck played into it too, which isn't a bad thing, lol. But to finish them i would for sure get them in a 12/12 light cycle as it can only help you. If you put a couple blocks on both sides of the pots you could cover them with a box over each plant, this can control the dark period to 12hours and will give air up through the bottom. An Auto will grow at 20/4 light cycle so the two budding maybe have some of that Auto in it, but still would grow better in a 12/12 grow light schedule. If you look at any indoor grow you will see a 12/12 flower period and if a person could give the length your 2 plants are getting, everyone would do so, but indoor we copy nature. So a couple box's and cement blocks to raise the box's for air to get up into the plant is what i would do. This will help the plant increase in size as they are tricked into thinking it is fall or around 12/12. Heck they look close to harvesting so stop the grow and use only bloom nutes for these two, but way less then your giving its just to much. You should see the bigger fan leaves getting yellow as the Nitrogen begins to leave the plant, you want this. They are great nutes and more isn't always better and the others may not be growing for one of these reasons, but i will get to those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esteban1
I would cut off any budding on the other plants, i know your freaking out when i say this, but you need the vegetative hormones in those plants asap. And feed only the Grow on these plants till the light get much closer to 12/12 as this will spark flowering. I tried my best to circle what i see in the pic that shows hermy, i understand you dont want to hear this shit, but i dont want the balls to open. This will seed up all your plants taking away from its potency, but any seeds would be feminized so keep them.
I circled the area i see which looks like balls in this pic, but you will need to blow it up and look right. You can try and cut off that branch and pick off any balls or ''nanners'' you see. Plus if you have an outside light you could move all but the 2 that are close to finishing. By using only Veg nutes and removing any flowers is the only thing i can think of, but i will ask Rusty a friend about it, if you havent seen his posts here you should read them.
Look at what iv circled and tell me if these are balls. And if they are open spray with water to dissipate the pollen useless, then cut them off and check daily for more. You keep up on this and they will not all go hermy as putting plants out in flower without them having a 12/12 light cycle which is basically Fall, they tend to try and hermy. Here is the plant that looks hermy, oh and a plant with per flowers like ya got is not in a vegetative state,they are in flower once pre flowers appear.
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From reading your profile i thought you were in the states so yeah this dose change some things. But it isn't going to change anything till it begins to get darker and less light. But i believe that you have less time then i thought to get there. Still get rid of any balls and if they get bad get rid of that plant, it can only hurt the others.
But the plants in flower should get more light till its closer to a 12 hour light and dark period as this can hermy all the plants. I would try and get clones to veg for about a month, then plant straight into the ground tho, they will grow a bit bigger and should flower well with your days getting shorter after June. It would almost be like planting a seed and as soon as it brakes ground flip lights to 12/12, iv seen this done. They grow one big ass cola and thats it, but huge outside im sure. I only hope your plants flowering can make it till your shorter days.
I wish ya had told me you were not in North America, i would have had different answers.
Good luck brother, il be looking in as i would luv to see ya get some monsters. Maybe your plants will re veg, which may even give you a bigger yield, but i would be trying to get clones or plant seeds right into the ground. They may not get big, but you could get an oz per plant,
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Every year, on June 21st North America receives the most sunlight, at the most direct angle, for the longest amount of time. This day is called the summer solstice and is considered the first day of summer. In the Southern Hemisphere, it is the exact opposite! They experience the winter solstice on that day – the shortest day of the year.
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You are so right, So just giv'em the "Grow Big" w/o any other amendments? Oh, btw.... No Balls... Just a lot of pre-flowering!!
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Yeah man you want them on straight FF's Grow Big for now and i would remove anything that looks like a bud. You want them to get back to full on veg for now and the flowers will return, but they are very confused at this point as what ever light ya had them on was much more then the sun is giving them now. Or light was taken from them inside which made them go off. Removing them helps that flowering hormone stop and the Grow Big will help as well to get them into veg.Quote:
You are so right, So just giv'em the "Grow Big" w/o any other amendments? Oh, btw.... No Balls... Just a lot of pre-flowering!
But man that pic sure looked like it had some funky growth on it and putting them in and out with different light is the easiest way to make a plant hermy. I was looking for something i could show as an example and goggled it just check this dudes bush out.
help my plants are turning hermie,i think
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I see what your saying but couldn't find the balls!! Hoping that the grow big will do the job. So, will the solstice help turn my girls or whatever they are back to growing properly?
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Here's the score. Did an exhaustive search on each plant. Only had 1 small ball with a seed. Removed it & it was very immature. They all appear to have nice "pre flowers" & fed them the "Grow Big" & that's it. I'm hoping that once the days start to shorten up I can luck out. From what I see, my only HUGE ERROR was feeding them the flowering blends which is obviously low in nitrogen. Think I can pull this off. I think?
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Well if any mistake i would say the light cycles were messed up. You maybe put them out to early, but if ya ran outta space i understand. But right now is a perfect time to plant seeds or clones as they will go straight off. The Grow Big had enough Nitrogen in it or the plants would not look all green like they look. You use it all the way through till budding begins and then ya add the Bloom with it for a couple weeks, after this ya drop the Grow and use Bloom nutes to build up your buds, but this wasn't the issue. By putting flowering plants out with less then at least 11-12 -13 hours of sun made them freak, they did this from being in one light cycle to another and again. Once in flower nature says finish, but then added light made them not sure what to do, this could be due to the slow growth you mentioned.Quote:
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Can ya pull it off, well bro im in your corner, but to be honest ts going to be on the plants bro. But look through them daily for nanners and pick them off everyday, this will help, but man i cant say really. If they have the ability to come outta flower and then back to veg your cool i think, but ya may get long thin airy bud on some, thats just nature, but thats why i said to cut them off, but that is on you bro,
Good luck man, il be back man,
LSY
Oh Well.... Live & Learn
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