Phushit: Your log has been a big help to me, but I have a few more questions. You use Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom. Do you use them both at the same time, full strength? When do you start applying and how often?
Can you say more about molasses? Thanks
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Phushit: Your log has been a big help to me, but I have a few more questions. You use Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom. Do you use them both at the same time, full strength? When do you start applying and how often?
Can you say more about molasses? Thanks
Check out post 26 in my PPP log. I think i answered you there. If you have anymore questions just post them.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by lulu64
Hello again pushit.
There is no post #26. Post #15 briefly mentions molasses & water but not the formula and when to use it. Post #18 mentions using Tigerbloom on your previous watering. But it doesn't mention actually which week or when to begin and what strength to use or if you use both Tigerbloom and Big Bloom at the same time. Your blog has given me a lot of useful information. I hope you can clear this up for me. Thanks
If you look up the FF feeding schedule for soil you will see how much of each i use during flower. I use the same amounts as the chart suggest. I would post a link for it but i dont want any infractions haha. Google or bing will take you to the schedule. But yes i use both at the same time. The first time i feed i use half strength and the following feeding i go to full strength. Usually start feeding around week 3 of flower.
As for the molasses i use either grandma's or brer rabbit molasses that you can get at wally world or a grocery store. Its by the syrup. I will usually add a tsp per gallon of water on the nonfeeding days. Just water and molasses. Check out this link when you get time. It will tell you more than i know haha Molasses is Sweet Organic Goodness
Hey Pushit again,
I found the FF Chart-thanks. They suggest giving Big Bloom right away. But, I'll follow your plan as you know what you're doing. One more question. They suggest flushing at end of veg stage and just prior to flower stage. Will this be necessary if I don't give any nutes until after determinging sex?
What soil are you using? The way I see it is if you dont use any nutes during veg there is no need to flush before you go to flower. Now if you are using a soil that you need to add nutes during veg to keep the girls happy then i would recommend a flush. On the FF feeding chart, I pretty much just use it from about the second or third week of flower. You also have to remember that different strains will act differently under the same conditions. What might work great for me might not work out great for you and vice versa. You just have to watch the plants closely and let them tell you.Quote:
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Hello again Pushit
As for soil I will use FF Ocean Forrest per your suggestion. First I'm waiting for these babys to germinate. I'm a new beginner and will start with 3 plants hoping to get at least one girl.
Just make sure you start the little ones in some kind of seed starter to begin with. FFOF is some hot stuff. Are you gonna do a log of your grow?Quote:
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One seed popped on Day 2, another popped on day 3 using the paper towel method. The third seed hasn't done anything. I don't know how long to wait for it or to try a different seed. I planted the first two seed in jiffy pots and for soil am using Miracle Grow seed starter. When they are ready I will transplant in FFOF. I will make a log for my use but since I'm a novice I'll wait until I get the hang of it before I attempt to publish anything. I will follow your log the best I can. Thanks again for the help.
I will usually give them up to a week to pop. So what kind of setup do you have? Do you have something to check the ph of your water? What kind of lights, etc? Im just asking cause its always better to be ahead of the plants instead of the other way around.Quote:
Originally Posted by lulu64
Hello Pushit,
As for PH I have a test kit with a small bottle of up and a small bottle of down. I hope I can manage the Ph level. After all I'm a first time beginner. I'm using a Hydrofarm jump start system (since I'm only starting with three in hopes of getting a girl). It has a full daylight spectrum 6400K lamp. When the flowers start I will switch to a warm spectrum lamp. I do, however, have a question. Do I switch the lamps as soon as I start 12/12 or wait until I see something resembling a flower? Thanks again. You've been a great help and it's better than traversing all the different logs to get one answer.
What wattage is the light you are gonna use? As for the 12/12 question its really up to you. Ive heard people having great success doing either or. I personally switch the bulb as soon as i switch to 12/12. The moment I switch to 12/12 i consider it the first day of flower. Some do it differently.Quote:
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As for the ph, depending on brand, you would be amazed what a couple drops will do. Its some stout stuff. Once you start using ph and nutes, dont forget to shake up the bottles before you use them.
Hey Pushit
I posted a response but I'm not sure if it worked.
Hello Pushit,
I'm using a Hydrofarm Jump Start System which came with a 24" tube. It's 24 watt, T5, 6400K full daylight spectrum lamp with a reflector. I thought I'd use this until the plant is 12" -14" tall then switch over to 12/12 and then use a warm spectrum tube. I'm hoping for 1 girl. Since I'm new at this I didn't want to invest a lot of money. Do you think this would work, suggestions?
I use something pretty close to that for seedlings and clones. Even with the little ones i get alot of stretch until they go under the cfls. What im getting at is that youre not gonna have enough light. If you just want to grow 1 plant with ok results, I would suggest getting several cfls for it. Put a couple up top with the T5 and several going around the plant. Since you are only vegging til about 12" you might be able to get away with just 2/26watt cfls at the moment. But come flowering time, I would definitely add some side lighting. You can probably get the extra cfls, ext cord, and ys for under 25 bucks. You can also just get a couple a week and you wont really notice the money gone. Other than that it sounds like you are on the right track.Quote:
Originally Posted by lulu64
You are going to need more light. Either more T5s, some CFLs or other.
Hey Pushit
How does this sound? I'll leave them under the T5 while they are in the seedling stage. When it's time to start vegging I'll put them under a Fluorowing, CFLS, 125W, full daylight spectrum, 6400K. Then when I go 12/12 I'll put them under a 125W warm spectrum. Do you think this will work? How long do I leave them under the T5? Right now they are under it 24/7. Thanks
That sounds good to me. If you wanted you could just buy the warmer cfls and use them through your whole grow. They will work just fine. Saves you from buying two different sets. But which ever way you decide should be ok. Just remember the more cfls you have the happier the plant will be and you can always mix the spectrums up. A couple cooler ones with a couple warm ones. Also keep in mind that you might end up with more than one female. More ladies=more light.Quote:
Originally Posted by lulu64
I usually keep my seedlings 24/7 until my first transplant then i go to 18/6 for veg. 24/7 light minimizes the stretch on the little ones.
I dont mind helping you with the basics but there are many people that are alot more knowledgeable than i am on here. I havent been growing for two years yet so im pretty much a noob myself. I still have alot to learn. Just wanted to put that out there haha.
HEY.
You sure helped me with all my questions. I'll try not to bother you any more. But I was thinking for the veg state to have them on a 17/7 schedule because I need to have it finished by June as I ned to go on a trip then. Will this schedule create a problem? 24/7 for babies, 17/7 for veg and 12/12 for blossom.
Youre not bothering me. Im more than willing to share what little bit i know. Ive never used 17/7 so i cant really say. I would still suggest using the 16/8 schedule. Its your choice. I dont really think that extra hour of light is gonna matter much in veg. I could be wrong. But usually the earlier you flip to 12/12 the earlier the plant will be done. Most strains will take 8+ weeks in flower to finish. Plus you have to factor in drying and curing time. Not too mention if anything goes wrong it takes time to correct and get the plant back on track.Quote:
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If you ever get time post a pic of how the little ones are doing.
Hey Pushit,
I posted a new question regarding light under "indoor gardening". Would you please take a look and see if you can help me? Thanks
Hey Pushit
What product do you recommend for flushing?
I normally just use 6.5 water to flush but this grow im using Sledgehammer. First time using it so couldnt really tell you if its worth the extra money. Chances are that plain water would work just as good.Quote:
Originally Posted by lulu64
Pushit,
I've been using your log and have a question about the number of days. Is the day count from when you put them on 12/12, or from the first bloom, or from first seedling stage or what? I'm trying to compare my growth with your time line.
Thanks
I replied to you in my log but ill copy and paste it here for you. Its the number of days since ive flipped to 12/12. As soon as my timer is 12/12, I consider that the first day of flower. Some disagree. I dont really think it matters either way you want to do it considering if the trichomes are to your liking they get the cut.Quote:
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As for how old they were at the beginning of the thread, I have no clue. I dont really keep track of veg times anymore. Doesnt really concern me. As long as they are ready for flower when the time is right, thats all i personally care about haha
First of all props to pushit for being as helpful as he is here, I haven't read this thread before until now. I figured I might as well throw in a little bit as well. For the flushing part of it.. sledgehammer is definitely worth it, depending on the type of nutrients you use. I'd say that with using FF or other organics that sledgehammer isn't as necessary. But if you're using miracle grow or other stuff like that, I think sledgehammer can be very beneficial for flushing, because of the extra salt build up.
As far as the lighting schedule.. pushit I saw you recommended 16/8, haven't heard much of using that sort of schedule, unless it was a typo for you and you meant 18/6. If its not a typo and you do use 16/8 I'd like to hear more about how that goes for you. I'd always be paranoid that with some strains that can spring into flower earlier than I'd like.
Thanks for the kind words Minnesnowta. Took me a little while to find what you were talking about. Yes that was a typo on my part and i didnt notice til you brought it up. I meant 18/6. Good looking out:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnesnowta
Hello Pushit
I'm following your log and doing just great. One question I still have is about fimming. I did this with each plant between the 4 & 5 nodes and it worked fine. Should I do this to other branches or not trim at all any more? If I do trim how soon before going 12/12 can I do this without putting stress on the plant? Thanks for your help
I have never fimmed so i couldnt honestly tell you the answer. All i do is top once and lst. I dont think you will have any problems as long as you dont get carried away. IMO i would treat it similar to taking clones. I take no more than 6 per plant at a given time and I wait around a week in between cutting sessions. I usually try and let them veg another 2 weeks after the last cut before throwing into flowering. If i decided to top multiple times i would use the same process. Hope that helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by lulu64