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So as I've been talking to my friend, it was suggested to me that I "lollipop" my dwc plant. I was unsure of this method and honestly had no intentions of doing it. But seeing as how I sent it into flowering yesterday, I like the way the plant grows, and I was bored as hell; I decided to strip the bottom six inches of growth and make as many clones as I could from it. I did pretty well but I would like some advice. Does everybody trim the bottom growth before flowering? Here's some pics too....
Check out this thread.... http://boards.cannabis.com/closet-ca...b-grow-ss.html ....
Single plant in DWC lollipopped the proper way....
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for a start i have to congratulate you on that fine looking thing...to be giving you advice is proberbly not right,but anyway here goes...
i lollipoped on my last grow(led) because my light doesnt penetrate that deep.it goes to maybe 8-10 inches so after tying her down for weeks i had a continues
flat canopy 8 inches deep straight across and yeilded twice as much GOOD bud as before(no small shit)
my advice to you,even though you are much more competent than i am, would be to figure out how deep your light penetrates(after 4 grows you should know)
and then trim all below.
good luck with your grow,even though you dont need it:thumbsup:
bigguy1977
lolly pop, lolly pop, ohh lolly lolly pop, lolly pop! (POP!) ba bum bum bum lolly..
lolly popping helps fight pm and humidity, promotes growth up top and allows for better control of sub canopy environment. i say, its essential element of fine tuning environment.
i even keep a small fan at surface of grow medium lvl, to move all that stale air. my controller sits at main cola lvl, and i noticed my humidifier didnt kick on when sub canopy humidity was almost 55.. lolly pop and small fan fixed that for me..
looks good,
ciao, damp
I gave all my plants a good trimming at the bottom before bloom. You can check out my LED grow here under indoor growing, Testing the Pro-Grow 260 LED light. Also here, LED LOGGER
I think its a great idea to get rid of those wasteful popcorn buds on the bottom. They never really generate into anything smokable. So why not cut them out to let the plant focus more energy towards the top.
Looking good prettygirl. I like to read your posts. You are a seasoned grower. :) I'm giving advice to a pro :)
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Originally Posted by prettygirlsmokes420
This must be Karma... Cause lastnight I took 12 clones from my DWC and trimmed all that crap out from around the bottom,too.. Why do we think this way? You startin' to scare me!lol... Don't wanna be thread jackin'! If I show you my pics,too.. We'd have to call this thread...... DWC Dance... May I have this Dance?
If you don't mind, I'll give a peek at my other Boo's...hehe Your my #1,though!:giveflower:
Did your Chainsaw run outta gas? I normally use a weedeater,but everyone was asleep. Echo's don't mess around.1000 cuttings in one sweep! Thats alotta cuttings.. I'm playin'... Everything looks nice! Heres mine.. That 3rd pic is the DWC before,1st one now.. Then the trim.
Ga.
Haha I love that we are sharing this experiance Ga, great minds sometime think alike right? ;)
And I really do appreciate the imput from everybody.
S.l. oh stop! :) I still have a lot to learn.
This is the first time I have handled a plant this big and this is a new experiance and quite the adventure for me! I'm loving the restults of my hydro compared to the dirt plants. And I love the difference in quality from tye clones and the seeding. I had the opportunity to experament between grows, so I did. I don't think I will have that much room for experamenting next time because I have three patients to grow for. Fortunately there is a little more room because of the little space I built, so who knows, I might start one bucket again, as my personal plant, same set up, different variations. I want to actually have acouple good plants grown before I do more than one at a time. Don't wanna overwhelm myself and get discouraged now cuz this is great so far! ;)
I'll start my own post... Cause your gonna need all the room you can get! They look like hippos in a bucket! My roots looks a boofont hairdoo upside down! This DWC is way more advancing than any soil plant on a small level. I'm gonna put my pics in my album on my profile page.. Take a peek when ya get time? Peace to ya gurlie!
Ga.
I have never done any certain type of trimming, I pretty much trim through the entire grow that way there is no huge shock all at once. If you start and keep things opened up during the entire grow the plant is used to it and the shock% goes down allot. We can bend, twist, tweak, tie, cage and whatever else you want to add but bottom line is no matter what you do the less shock the plant gets the better all around grow you will have.
Keep the undergrowth to a minimum. Doing so will allow the plant to redirect energy into new growth instead of trying to repair or maintain weaker, older undergrowth.
Doing so also gets rid of great places for PM, and bugs to take hold...
Also, healthier plant, larger yields, and faster growth rates are some pretty awesome side effects of lollypopping.
Hope this helps
Stress in this case has increased growth! Wow. Conflicts of interest...Lordy! This comment has nothing to do with this thread! It was a rant.Sorry....Quote:
Originally Posted by GanjaRobPDX
Ga.
lolli popping a plants serves the opposite purpose of topping a plant. If you clip the top, it stimulates side growth. If you clip the bottom it stimulates top growth.
If the bottom growth doesnt get enough light, it will grow little popcorn buds that are a pain to trim/waste of time. It might stress the plant a little(once you get a few grows under your belt, youll understand that these plants can really take a beating before they dont like it) but it increases yield. Instead of using water, nutrients, and energy to keep the bottom branches alive, youll send that energy to the top growth. You can stress a plant as much as you want during vegetative growth without any ill effects other than slow growth.
Its makes for a more managable canopy too.......
here is a couple of pictures using this method. I chopped all the bottom shit off. I guess these are the results of stressing plants.....:thumbsup:Attachment 281511Attachment 281512Attachment 281513Attachment 281514
Here's some pics of the tiny root shoots coming from the clippings I took from my dwc bucket....
looking great,cant believe how thick and healthy those roots look.... if you ever come to europe i could use someone like you:thumbsup:
anyway tried to clone first time yesterday just to see how hard it is,but using soil.
any special tips??
you are a very acompliced grower,you put in alot of time,and you deserve that they all grow lots of bud....
bigguy
Oh stop it! Ur making me blush ;) this is my first time cloning in rockwool cubes so it was a small adventure, plus I used gel instead of powder hormones for rooting.
I have only cloned a total of three times, twice in dirt and tgis one in rockwool.
So far I am undecided as to which one I prefer....
Idk only advice I can think of is to keep em warm and moist. I clipped the tips of most of the bigger fan leaves because they were yellowing and i wanted more focus on the root production than trying to recover the leaves. Idk if it was o good idea, but I got killer roots on almost every single one, I'm still waiting to see if the smaller ones get little rootshoots too. I didn't expect them all to make it anyways because some were kinda scraggly looking..
I am flattered really, but I don't even have alot of experiance under my belt yet so im still learning :)
I like to say I'm passionate about it Hahaha!
It's like meditation for me so I do spend a lot of time bullshittin in my garden ;)
hey...... quick reply.
your using gel?? i got the powder!! ah well,ill give it a go.
do you peel back the" skin" on the last bit of branch before dipping in gel??
dont blush compliments come only when deserved.
oh how long before you notice root grow??
bigguy
Well yes indeed I did scrape the skin off the tiny last bit of stem.
I also put a slit into the bottom about 1/16 of an inch long (tiny) starting at the tip of ur 45degree cut and going up the stem a tiny ways. That's when I scrape the small layer of skin and quickly dip and stick. Haha
I am careful not to tip the clippings upside down as not to get air bubbles up in the stem, which can cause issues later. I normally prefer powder to the gel so I think its personal preferance. I did observe quicker root development when i used dirt with the powdered hormones, but that was a diff strain as well so idk. Im sure youll do fine, I did my first cloning attempt and did ok, some didn't survive the transplant though. Also I wasnt as carefull as not to tip them upside down like i did this go around. I cut the clippings off, letting them chill all on the floor and what not. I did a lot too though, about fourty eight (that's all I'm allowed ;) )
So i don't remember the exact ratio of ones that survived or didn't, but I can tell u that they all had sprouted roots.
I think I'm hinting that my personl preferance for cloning is dirt... ;)
I just love the progress of my dwc plant so I did some in rockwool and will be doing three dwc buckets instead of one. (But that's a whole nother grow log ill be starting in the near future. ) woot woot!
What strain r u cloning?
Oh yeah, took about 13-15 days for me to notice the tiny rootshoots from these rockwool cube clones. Id estimate about the same if not a cpl days sooner for the dirt, but idk really...
i didnt know about not tipping them upside down. ty
its skunk haze very bushy.
have a bubblegum,cole train,burmese kush being my favorite
you have really done your homework, i thought i read alot,nearlysix months non stop!!!!!
i saw your aloud 48 plants so you can really go all out:jointsmile:
sadly here i am aloud nothing,until we get these ridicoules laws changed(from denmark living near london)
i read your posts and followed you for a while and you are always great for positive advise,so fair play to you....
rambling!! sorry smoking amnesia, must be the nicest smoke i had for years:D
ill try your way tuesday,and we will see how i get on.
bigguy
Here's my lady 14 days into flowering.
And the Nutrient line I'm running.
Questions or comments preferred ;)
bloody BEAUTIFUL,is all i can say.
love the thick stems i saw on one of your photos,are they normally that thick??
also one of the pics,the shoot looks very light green coloured,which i only see if i forgot to feed n. but maybe its just the flash??
anyway if she was mine i would be one proud daddy.
well done:thumbsup:
oh by the way,you have also gone all out on the nutrients, i only use 4,but then again your plants look 5 times nicer;)
bigguy
There's roots on them all now and I'm wondering if its time to transplant...
When should I transplant? Because they are shooting out roots like crazy...
I am glad that all of them made it too ;) although I don't need them all.
IDK about you but month after month I worry that my cuttings won't root.... And month after month they do.... Like you, I end up with more than I need....Quote:
Originally Posted by prettygirlsmokes420
Your momma in flower is monstrous....:thumbsup: good job.... Have you thought about thinning it out a little more??? Either that or place some type of screen on top to separate the foliage a bit....
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yea its always a good idea to trim that stuff off because it will just take away energy that could be going to the main colas... let it go for a bit then onces the mains are established hack away most of the bottom shit. do be afraid to duckdownandchopusome
You should do all that hackin' a week before ya flower... Cutting adds stress! It does however add to the production of the top budsites... Ya gotta have a budsite before you even produce a cola..Quote:
Originally Posted by how2growsensi
Here's she is with her bad self... ;)
I'm a little worried cuz I don't have a lot more top room for her.
When I'm standing next to her she's taller than me, nd she not as far from the light as is like her to be...
Is it too late to scrog or spread out her foliage a little more?
Will that help with my height issues?
Ps, I wouldn't cut ne thing till ur ladies fill out a little more, they look a bit young still ;)
Some great info and impressive pictures of grows in this thread! PGS420, I'm just starting again and have a couple of tiny White Widow clones which aren't the strongest looking but trying to root them and get them growing now. It's incredible to see your clones take off like that and see them all take root. Have you just got regular (PH balanced?) water in the trays? Any nutes? Do you have them covered with a propagator lid too? What about keeping light over them? Sorry for all the questions in quick succession.
Keep up the awesome work... I'll be watching closely! :thumbsup:
Questions are good lol so its cool ;)
I have the3 double fixtures of t8 flourescent bulbs atratched to the lid of the tub, so six bulbs total..
I soak my rockwool cubes in 5.5ph water for ten min, then set them on the tray to have the fresh clones stuck into them. No I don't use any nutes at all. Nd I don't let them stand in open water.
I spray them with 5.5 ph water all the time, so as the keep the rockwool moist...
I'm not sure what else to say just keep.ya eye on em...
Hope i could help ;)
PGS420 :)
Great, thanks for the quick response! Do you keep the light over them permanently when waiting for them to take root?
Yes I do, the lights stay of 24 hrs.
It's getting a bit cold here overnight now so I've decided to keep the light on 24hrs over my clones too. They've been on 18/6 for 5 days. This won't hurt them will it?
Not at all.. It'll just slow the rooting process..As long as the medium is kept warm.. Then lighting would not have an issue.. But thet do need light.. Don't get me wrong..24/0 for cuttings and 18/6 for vegging.. Your doing the right thing!Quote:
Originally Posted by thermite
Great! Thanks Ga Grown :thumbsup:
Purdy Gurl laid it out there... I just added to the fire! But your welcome! Hope they all hatch,too!:thumbsup: Hers damn sure did.. Looks like a worm farm in rockwool!
Appears PGS is kick'n azz & tak'n #'s
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