High All, I went into renew my card and did everything correctly, from the doctors to mailing in the payment. but still have not received anything!!! it took about 6 months originally, does anyone know if colorado is running behind again?:thumbsup:
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High All, I went into renew my card and did everything correctly, from the doctors to mailing in the payment. but still have not received anything!!! it took about 6 months originally, does anyone know if colorado is running behind again?:thumbsup:
Here is some info regarding applications being delayed from westword
Med. marijuana patients must wait 6 months to reapply if applications found to be "fraudulent" - Denver News - The Latest Word
Potentially fraudulent forms delay approval of medical marijuana applications
DENVER -- Following notification by law enforcement agencies of potentially fraudulent physician certification forms, the Medical Marijuana Registry at the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment began holding registry applications from certain identified physicians for further verification. Approximately 2,600 applications received between Sept. 5 and Oct. 14 initially were delayed, followed by another approximately 1,600 applications received between Oct. 15 and Dec. 5.
Law enforcement representatives had been present in two locations where applicants were being seen by someone other than a physician. Applications received by the department were consistent with this information.
The amendment to the Colorado Constitution passed by the voters in 2000, which established the registry, allows only physicians to evaluate patients for the purpose of diagnosing a debilitating medical condition and recommending medical marijuana. Additionally, legislation passed in 2010 provided further clarifying language about what constitutes a bona fide patient-physician relationship for purposes of the registry. The 2010 language established that the patient-physician relationship must include a personal physical examination, recordkeeping and an offer of follow up appointments with the physician. Consequently, an applicant who sees a non-physician does not meet the legal requirements of the registry.
Due to concerns about potential fraud, registry officials contacted the physicians whose names and signatures appeared on the registry certification forms for applicants who were believed to have been seen by someone other than the physician. The physicians were asked to verify whether or not they had seen specific patients and had signed their certification forms.
For the initial group of 2,600, the department has received responses from the identified physicians and reviewed all of the relevant information -- and based on that information will notify applicants whether their applications were accepted, denied or rejected. Denials of applications will be issued when the totality of the information indicates the physician did not see the patient. If it is unclear if the physician or some other individual saw the applicant, the application will be rejected. Applicants in the original group of 2,600 applications should receive notification from the registry by Dec. 23.
Denied applicants must wait six months from the date of denial before reapplying for the registry. Rejected applicants can resubmit a new application without delay and without the additional application processing fee of $90 through December 29, 2011 or $35 effective December 30, 2011.
The remaining 1,600 delayed applications received between Oct. 14 and Dec. 5 should complete the verification process around the first of the year, with notification of application status to those patients by the end of January.
Dr. Chris Urbina, executive director and chief medical officer at the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment, said, "We recognize many applicants have been impacted by the extended verification process, but the investigation was necessary to maintain the integrity of the Medical Marijuana Registry. The enabling legislation requires physicians to verify a patient has one of the qualifying debilitating medical conditions to receive medical marijuana -- and the legislation also requires personal, physical medical exams. The department has the responsibility to deny applications that don't meet those criteria."
Urbina further commented, "The exposure of this fraud should lead marijuana registry applicants to take care to ensure that they are seen and examined by a physician if they intend to apply to the medical marijuana registry."
My renewal last month look like 11 days to get the new card. Super fast now.
Mine took like 4 weeks. Glad I didn't get hung up in this BS, I went to a doc recommended by my center, truly a class operation, no production line setting & since I am on Disability I qualifed for a lower rate directly through the doctor himself. He really took the time to do a full examination & even provided some suggestions on how to better relieve my pain which is only one of the reasons I qualify.
I also now qualify for the new indigent standards (:thumbsup:) as of 1/1/12 so I need to get a request into the state for a certified copy of my tax return. so I can get it submitted after the 1st as it will make me tax exempt till I am due for renewal, which will save me a few $$$$ every month.
If you are among the patients involved in the WellDocs debacle, here is some awful news:
Medical marijuana: CDPHE's Dr. Chris Urbina on physician assistants, patient denials - Denver News - The Latest Word
Don't see how they can force patients who need medicine NOW to wait another 6 months for what a physician did. :(
This is insanity, Like you are susposted to walk into the office and ask for documentation as to their degree. Many are going to assume they are seeing a doctor, not knowing any difference. What a load of BS.
Mailed November 16. Card received January 7.
Glad to hear you received it. I just mailed in my application to update my current card to indigent status, since I am elgible might as well enjoy the tax free status.
:smokin:
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Originally Posted by HighPopalorum
what where the procedure's for getting the free card...I myself am on permanet disability thru social sec...my only income is mym social sec check...does my wife's job count?/
Bear;
It is based on your AGI (Adjusted Gross Income) from your colorado Income tax return. I am listing the basic information below, which is also available at Colorado: Department of Public Health and Environment, Colorado Medical Marijuana Registry
[align=left]Effective January 1, 2012, the Registry will no longer accept Food Stamp and Supplemental Security Income letters as proof of low-income status.
Patients with a household income that is 185% of the Federal Poverty Level or less, qualify for fee waiver. The chart below indicates the annual household incomes, adjusted for family size, that qualify.
Household incomes at 185% of 2011 Federal Poverty Guidelines*[/align]
[align=left]Source: Federal Register, Vol 76, No. 13, January 20, 2011, ppl 3637-3638*Poverty guidelines are updated periodically in the Federal Register by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services under the authority of 42 U.S.C. 9902(2)To apply for a Fee Waiver/Tax Exempt Status, patients must:
# in Family Annual Income 1 $20,146.50 2 $27,213.50 3 $34,280.50 4 $41,347.50 5 $48,414.50 6 $55,481.50 7 $62,548.50 8 $69,615.50 Each Additional $ 7,067.00
1. Request a certified copy of their most current State tax return from the Department of Revenue. Tax returns must be within the last two years to qualify. Patients can request a certified copy of their tax return by completing form DR-5714 ??Request for Copy of Tax Returns?? available atwww.colorado.gov/cms/forms/dor-tax/dr5714.pdf.http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/images/logo-pdf.gif The form must be completed, notarized and sent to the Colorado Department of Revenue for processing.2. Complete form MMR1010 Request for Fee Waiver/Tax-Exempt Status. Click here to download the form.http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/images/logo-pdf.gif
3. Send the Request for Fee Waiver/Tax-Exempt Status form and the certified copy of the most current State tax return with the patient??s application.
4. Patients who already have a Medical Marijuana Registration Card, may submit form MMR 1010 and a copy of their certified State tax return to have their card status modified to ??Tax Exempt.?
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Hope this Helps
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Originally Posted by denverbear
thank you...will be looking into it..
Your welcome, hope it helps you, every little bit helps on a fixed income
I submitted mine via certified mail on December 8 and just got my red card yesterday. :)
Grace
Thanks good to know I am waiting on my updated card, I applied for indigent status. Already been approved for discounted meds with MMAPA & My shop lets me apply the discount for anything in the shop (cannabis) not for concentrates or edibles...
I picked up a 1/2 Z yesterday for dern cheap spread across 3 different strains.
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Originally Posted by GreenGrace
any update on how long it's taking to get cards back at the present time...I messed up and forgot to look at my date which expires end of march...
one of my friend's just hit his 35 day mark yesterday. No red card yet. Looks like it will be longer then the 35 day window. Will post again once he gets the actual card. I also saw the CDPHE put out an update saying cards were taking between 45-55 days to get. Hopefully that's an exaggeration.... but probably not.
Took mine a little over 6 weeks for a renewal.Sent my paper work in Jan.3 and got my red card in the mail last Thursday the 16th.
about same here 3-6 weeks....
An applicant other than a natural person may meet the residency
requirement of section 12-43.3-307(1)(a)(XIII), C.R.S., if all owners, officers, managers
and employees of the applicant are residents as required by section 12-43.3-310(6),
C.R.S.
2. Any natural person applying for a license or serving as an owner, officer,
manager or employee of an applicant for licensure must establish Colorado residency as
required by sections 12-43.3-307(1)(a)(XIII) and 12-43.3-310(6), C.R.S.
a. The location of a natural person??s principal or primary home or
place of abode (??primary home?) may establish Colorado residency. A
natural person??s primary home is that home or place in which a person??s
habitation is fixed and to which the person, whenever absent, has the present
intention of returning after a departure or absence therefrom, regardless of the
duration of such absence. A primary home is a permanent building or part of a
building and may include by way of example a house, condominium,
apartment, room in a house, or mobile home. No rental property, vacant lot,
vacant house or cabin, or other premises used solely for business purposes
shall be considered a primary home. The State Licensing Authority considers
the following types of evidence to be generally reliable indicators that a
person??s primary home is in Colorado:
i. Evidence of business pursuits, place of employment, income
sources, residence for income or other tax purposes, age, residence
of parents, spouse, and children, if any, leaseholds, situs of
personal and real property, existence of any other residences
outside of Colorado and the amount of time spent at each such
residence, and any motor vehicle or vessel registration.
ii. Duly authenticated copies of the following documents may be
taken into account: A current driver??s license with address, recent
property tax receipts, copies of recent income tax returns, current
voter registration cards, current motor vehicle or vessel
registrations, and other public records evidencing place of abode or
employment.
iii. Other types of reliable evidence.
iv. The State Licensing Authority will review the totality of the
evidence, and any single piece of evidence regarding the location
of a person??s primary home will not necessarily be determinative.
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b. The following natural persons are presumed to be Colorado
residents:
i. Members of the armed services of the United States or any nation
allied with the United States who are on active duty in Colorado
under permanent orders and their spouses;
ii. Personnel in the diplomatic service of any nation recognized by the
United States who are assigned to duty in Colorado and their
spouses;
iii. Full-time students who are enrolled in any accredited trade school,
college, or university in Colorado. For purposes of this paragraph,
the spouse of any such student shall also be considered a resident.
The temporary absence of such student or the student??s spouse
from this state while the student is still enrolled at any such trade
school, college, or university shall not be deemed to terminate their
residency. A student shall be deemed ??full-time? if considered
full-time under the rules or policy of the educational institution he
or she is attending.
A natural person who is a Colorado resident pursuant to this rule does not terminate
Colorado residency upon entering the armed services of the United States. A member of
the armed services on active duty who resided in Colorado at the time the person entered
military service and the person??s spouse are presumed to retain their status as residents of
Colorado throughout the member??s active duty in the service,
just remember as you read you can loose licence so stay clean and you can stay green.......
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite...&ssbinary=true
I'm comming up on 6 weeks and still no card
Our patients are seeing their red cards on about the 60th day after submission. We anticipate you have another 2 and half weeks before you'll see you card.
I would have to agree with that, I recently received my replacement card showing Tax exempt (Already had a current card) and even that took 50 - 52 days to receive from the date they received it at the health dept.
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Originally Posted by DenverRelief
I wonder what ever happened to all the help thye got ...last time they got this far behing it really sucked...of course with no red card I can't even get my meds now...damm state.
Agreed I know they got behind because of all those applications they held back. Personally I feel they should approved or reject based on current procedures & until the rules are changed not be able to hold back applications.
I mean think about the outrage if any other agency held back processing an applications till they could make a decision.
But until the legislature makes it illegal to hold back processing it will never happen and that sure isn't gonna happen. I feel for ya. :(
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Originally Posted by denverbear
it finally came yesterday(saturday)...6 weeks to the day almost....yippie...chebba chews here I come...
Good deal
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Originally Posted by denverbear
When are we going to see you @denverbear?
DenverRelief, out of curiosity... I noticed that your website gives a 3 week estimate for red cards and links to the "Where's My Card?" document on the CDPHE website. Do you know if that is still an accurate estimate? I am just over three weeks now and they have not cashed my check yet; meanwhile I'm hearing from a lot of people that it's currently taking 50-60 days. What have you heard?
Has anyone here gotten a card in the past 2-3 weeks? If so, when did you submit your application?
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Originally Posted by barackobama
I sent mine in on March 15th, got my red card May 4th - so ya, the 50-60 day window is accurate. Sorry, it totally sucks, CDPHE is total shit
Interesting, thanks for the info. It's interesting because I ran into two people at the dispensary today who both submitted their applications two days after you and got their cards about a week before you. Really makes it seem almost random and definitely proves CDPHE does not have their shit together.Quote:
Originally Posted by adkben
By my interpretation of the text, they're in violation of the Colorado Constitution every time they fail to issue a card (or provide a properly documented rejection) within 35 days of receipt of the application. Too bad the government is spending all of its time coming up with and enforcing silly rules for dispensaries to while not caring at all whether they're in compliance with their own constitution.