Revegging after harvest - Grow log/Advice/Proof Enjoy!

I'm starting this thread about revegging your plants after you harvest the buds from them in order to grow them back out and get a 2nd, or maybe even more harvests from the same plant. I plan to provide all the information I can for others who want to try this process, as well as a grow log of my own revegging project as proof that it does work, and hopefully by the end of it, that it does work well. I grew my first plant this summer and failed to take clones at an early enough stage in its life to preserve it, as harvest rolled around I researched hard for options to keep going since I had no more seeds and no good means of buying any new seeds or clones. Once I heard about revegging I researched it as much as I could and got to work...

I am about 2-3 weeks into revegging currently and I have plenty of new growth, still mostly mutant/confused growth but at least I know its working properly. I think you'll find that my reveg situation has been quite unique, and that may offer some new ideas for those of you looking to try it out. I will be posting pictures later on today, and continuously as she grows all the way through her 2nd harvest. Just out of curiosity how often should I take update pictures of the growth? I'll shoot for at least once a week.

Anyways, stay tuned and enjoy, also remember that this is somewhat new to me as well. So anyone more experienced should feel free to comment and correct me on anything I do or say. Also I'd love to see links to other revegging grow logs if anyone else has them. Enjoy, and I appreciate any and all comments that you can send my way throughout the process.

I got about 7 years of revegging experience,thank's to Rusty Trichome. He set me straight on 1 thing..So... I'm gonna ask you this question. Did you trim the rootball and transplant? It's a very big deal if you did'nt and timing is the key. As soon as the plant is harvested you should trim the roots and transplant. Kinda gettin' all the stress out of the way at 1 time. Makes sense,too. I did it opposite and waited till they vegged back and then transplant. Not anymore! The growth was explosive after I trimmed the roots. They had stopped or stalled growth,by not doing that. Anyway... Gonna stay tunned in to this thread,Kinda my thing. Love having the same strain for all these years! Without seeds or cuttings.. Just revegged mama's. I do believe revegging will be common practice amongst growers to keep genetics alive. Hope all goes well with your venture!

Ga.

Sadly I did not transplant or trim the rootball... I did read about that I knew that I should have, and I meant to do that but growth started quickly and now I am a little unsure as to whether or not I want to transfer it. I was concerned the stress would harm the plant and since it seems to be growing well right now I figured why try to fix something that isn't broken. If you recommend that I still transplant even after its been vegging for 2 weeks or so, then thats the way I'll go. If nothing else.. I really wanted to put it into a larger container.

My other concern with that was since there is quite a bit of new growth, would I be cutting off the new roots if I were to do that now? And if so, does that matter?

Let me assure you that you can't screw this up! Trim that rootball and transplant.. You'll be fine I promise! One or two inches off the bottom and same on the sides and transplant.Plain ole ph'd water on one side of the pot. Gotta give it a chance to dry out some. Roots grow faster if they are somewhat dry. Maybe add some KLN rooting hormone.

That new growth your concerned about is gonna be explosive!

Ga.

GG is right, you gotta trim the sides and bottom or you will have issues down the road. Trust me as i am a student of Rusty too, have you read his thread yet, if not get on it asap. But i dont agree with any root hormone, just my opinion as you will be re potting in a couple weeks.

I did as Rusty did, but then put them outside. I didn't know what to expect, but what i got was monsters. Look in my Sig, they got huge with a ok yield only because i got ripped 3 times, but still got at least a qp a plant. Would have got at least 1 or 2 easy as the strains were nice, plus took 2 or 3 inside harvests before re vegging them outside. My NL got sick, it was rotted all up the main stem right below the ground and without a good trim you may have the same issue inside. But yeah trim all 4 sides and the bottom and put into fresh soil. Any flower nutes may slow the re veg too, just though of that so not sure. It might be ok now, but it will need re potted and by having the stress if any, i had non and i have pics to show you, it will be way worse when the plant completes its re veg and is ready to flower. BTW, get some clones before you flower and you can do it all over again.

I will be back too, luv the re veg, its a waste not to!

My outside re veg's and a clone from the sick NL before it got bad, which i flowered inside under my LEDs. After growing it inside, then re veg and the clone gave me this. Not the first pic i thought, see my Sig for better pics. '10 Outdoor


LSY

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GG is right, you gotta trim the sides and bottom or you will have issues down the road. Trust me as i am a student of Rusty too, have you read his thread yet, if not get on it asap. But i dont agree with any root hormone, just my opinion as you will be re potting in a couple weeks.

I did as Rusty did, but then put them outside. I didn't know what to expect, but what i got was monsters. Look in my Sig, they got huge with a ok yield only because i got ripped 3 times, but still got at least a qp a plant. Would have got at least 1 or 2 easy as the strains were nice, plus took 2 or 3 inside harvests before re vegging them outside. My NL got sick, it was rotted all up the main stem right below the ground and without a good trim you may have the same issue inside. But yeah trim all 4 sides and the bottom and put into fresh soil. Any flower nutes may slow the re veg too, just though of that so not sure. It might be ok now, but it will need re potted and by having the stress if any, i had non and i have pics to show you, it will be way worse when the plant completes its re veg and is ready to flower. BTW, get some clones before you flower and you can do it all over again.

I will be back too, luv the re veg, its a waste not to!

My outside re veg's and a clone from the sick NL before it got bad, which i flowered inside under my LEDs. After growing it inside, then re veg and the clone gave me this. Not the first pic i thought, see my Sig for better pics. '10 Outdoor


LSY

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LST,
The reason I suggested KLN rooting hormone was that if there was a difference in my 2 inches and his,, Everybody's been fishin' before! They alway's get bigger,than when ya caught them. Less'en ya got a picture!

You ain't changed a bit! GOOD!


Peace My Brother!
Ga.

Thanks for the input on trimming up the roots and repotting in new soil. I will get on that right away tomorrow during the football games. I just went and picked up some soil without nutes as everything else I had came equipped with time released nutes and I'm pretty sure that is what murdered a couple of my seedlings recently. I've been entertained by the fact that the new sprouter leaves and such that have been growing right away on the plant don't even look like they're from a cannabis plant. No jagged edges and they're just solo leaves haha. I am just thinking of someone seeing my plant that isn't supposed to... I can explain to them that it isn't cannabis, its an exotic vegetable plant, and google image search cannabis for them to prove it haha.

Anyways, once I have repotted my plant tomorrow I will take pictures and introduce you to my lady friend. Glad to hear that others are enjoying this process as well. I can't begin to tell you how excited I was to learn of it.

Hey guys, I got a silly question for Yall... Can a dwc plant be revegged? And if so what must be done to it as opposed to the dirt plant? Just curious.
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Yes it can! I would think that it would be even easier than soil. All ya got to do is flush the hydroton after you harvest and fill res with grow nutes. Set the clock back to 18/6 and let her ride!

Not a silly question..

Ga.

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LST,
The reason I suggested KLN rooting hormone was that if there was a difference in my 2 inches and his,, Everybody's been fishin' before! They alway's get bigger,than when ya caught them. Less'en ya got a picture!

You ain't changed a bit! GOOD!


Peace My Brother!
Ga.

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GG im not understanding ya bro? Did i step on your toe? I was agreeing on the trim and put pic's up only because they were outside. And any root hormone will make you re pot to soon, which brings more stress, which is the very issue he is worried about.

And changed? Yeah i have, but thats what ya do when ya mature, right? Whats up am i miss reading this or my ''opinion'' got under your skin? I really didnt mean to, just a fact and came from Rusty.

Just trying to help bro as you know im a fellow re veg guy too and just putting my 2 cents in here.

Can ya brake down the post so i can understand?


LSY

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

GG im not understanding ya bro? Did i step on your toe? I was agreeing on the trim and put pic's up only because they were outside. And any root hormone will make you re pot to soon, which brings more stress, which is the very issue he is worried about.

And changed? Yeah i have, but thats what ya do when ya mature, right? Whats up am i miss reading this or my ''opinion'' got under your skin? I really didnt mean to, just a fact and came from Rusty.

Just trying to help bro as you know im a fellow re veg guy too and just putting my 2 cents in here.

Can ya brake down the post so i can understand?


LSY

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I'm so so sorry you thought that was my intentions. I assure you it was'nt! I do appologize for coming off wrong.. I reread it and it did sound crazy.. So I do appologize.

Since they had never done the trim before it was to assure their end result would be a success. We'll always be GOOD in my book,brah! We go back some years! Oh... I said,You ain't changed,none! GOOD! So that was a good thang! It was more directed towards your disposition. That's a GOOD thang,too.. That fishin' comment was about telling a fishin' lie. Like... That sob was this big before it got off. So his 2 inches was more in the end..

Ga.

Cool beans bro cuz i was like, WTF, we do go back and was thinkin ''what did i do/say for this'', lol. Gotta say first thought was dayum GG went fishin and got drunk, lol.

Now lets teach this dude how to work them re veg's!


LSY

Im in the middle of a re-veg project myself. Unfortunetly, one strain didnt pull through, so I fear I have lost that one for good. The other did fine and new growth is looking awesome. ( my least fav of the two) :(

I'm certain the other didnt take too well to the trimming of the roots. And I may have taken too much of the rootball when I trimmed her. I know, like many other growers, I aim to be perfect and when I lose not 1, but TWO!! plants, well frustrating. I believe it is more strain specific then anything. More sensitive "down there" than the other strain.

Well, thats what I'm up too, as well as my 2 cents. Not sure I gave any advice tho....

I have to say that this the first re-veg that had turned out. Even tho Ive only done 3 or 4. Im more of a clone from clone kind of guy. But due to certain circumstances I couldnt harvest clones before flower.

PS Currently am working on a few exotic Hawaiian blends my buddy has been breeding and recently blessed me with his prescence.....and seeds. So Weezard, I will def. keep you updated on how that goes.

Peace out

Unfortunately pics are going to take me another day or so to get up here... my laptop was stolen with my pics and recorded dates and things on it :(
So now I am using my desktop which does not have a slot for my cameras memory card to transfer my pics... and that sucks cuz I don't have the right type of usb cable to connect my camera to my desktop so I am kinda screwed at the moment for both options. At least the pics are still saved on the camera so once I get a cable I can post them, and I'm going to a friends place here shortly who thinks he may have an extra usb connector cable for me. Otherwise I'll have to use my shitty cell phone camera and email them to me so the picture quality won't be that great. One way or another I'll get my pics up, and hopefully soon because I had a couple questions about my plant that might be too difficult for me to just explain.

One thing I wanted to know was how soon should nutes be used with a reveg? Considering mine has been revegging for over two weeks now, but I just transplanted and trimmed the root ball today. Should I hold off on any nutes for a little while to let the roots settle in? Or perhaps just use a light nute mix? Or do you give it a good feeding right away?

I'm just a little uncertain since I didn't transplant until today, but it has lots of new growth from 2-3 weeks of veg.

In other good news... the one seed that I found in her finally poked out of the soil, only took about 2-3 weeks haha, I was about ready to throw it away when I noticed it trying to peek out of the dirt.

Just give them unsulfered molassas. Like Grandmas molassas. Mosy grocery stores around here have it. One tsp (teaspoon) per gal. for about a week or so. No nutes.

Ga.

On my first successful attempt in getting any females on my grow, I had cut clones off my flowering female (the smallest ones) and put those in rooting hormones and plain tap water for 10 days. Granted they were slow to grow at first, and wilted a bit, but now i have 4 new females all in bloom with my clones cut right at vegetative. I would say all together a cloned blooming female worked fine for me. GOOD LUCK!

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On my first successful attempt in getting any females on my grow, I had cut clones off my flowering female (the smallest ones) and put those in rooting hormones and plain tap water for 10 days. Granted they were slow to grow at first, and wilted a bit, but now i have 4 new females all in bloom with my clones cut right at vegetative. I would say all together a cloned blooming female worked fine for me. GOOD LUCK!

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Not getting it....

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On my first successful attempt in getting any females on my grow, I had cut clones off my flowering female (the smallest ones) and put those in rooting hormones and plain tap water for 10 days. Granted they were slow to grow at first, and wilted a bit, but now i have 4 new females all in bloom with my clones cut right at vegetative. I would say all together a cloned blooming female worked fine for me. GOOD LUCK!

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Did you take those cuttings from her while in flower?

Ga.

Sorry I hadn't posted anything for so long, with the disappearance of my laptop I hadn't really been able to get pictures onto here well. But anyways here are a few of my reveg that I took with a kinda shitty camera. I'll get some better ones once I pick up batteries for another camera I just got.


So far it is under 8 100w 6500k CFLs

I see she came back too! Killer job! You'll be happy that you've taken this reveggin' route! Lookin' good!

Ga.

Some of the issues I seem to be having with it are that it has so many new shoots growing in all kinds of different directions. And so far it keeps producing so many single leaves instead of fan leaves and such. There is a good 3 point leaf here and there but they're rarely together like they normally are. So I really wanted to grow this out a little more and than thin it out by taking clones off of it but so far its hard to find any decent cuttings to take.

I was thinking about trimming out some of the single leaves that aren't getting light and are just causing things to grow randomly but I wasn't sure if that would hurt it or help it. I think it is growing so weird cuz I saved quite a few bud sites further out on branches since thats the only areas where I had some leaves left.

Either way the strange growth is going to be confusing as far as determining when I want to put her back into flower and such.

Any random advice on maintenance for this thing would be great. Thanks!

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Some of the issues I seem to be having with it are that it has so many new shoots growing in all kinds of different directions. And so far it keeps producing so many single leaves instead of fan leaves and such. There is a good 3 point leaf here and there but they're rarely together like they normally are. So I really wanted to grow this out a little more and than thin it out by taking clones off of it but so far its hard to find any decent cuttings to take.

I was thinking about trimming out some of the single leaves that aren't getting light and are just causing things to grow randomly but I wasn't sure if that would hurt it or help it. I think it is growing so weird cuz I saved quite a few bud sites further out on branches since thats the only areas where I had some leaves left.

Either way the strange growth is going to be confusing as far as determining when I want to put her back into flower and such.

Any random advice on maintenance for this thing would be great. Thanks!

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NOOOO! Don't trim nothing.... Give it some time.. It really loves a fan! Those leaves will come out to look normal..Everytime I reveg they look single blade Crazy,too!

Ga.

Understandable, the problem is that the shoots can't grow upward, they keep twisting around each other and growing horizontally which makes them produce even more random shoots. At what point in the plants life do you start to trim areas that are only gonna produce weak little buds? I am hoping that some of these shoots will grow up enough to take decent clones from them and that will help thin things out a bit.

I'll have to fill you in on this plant's life story sometime, its survived a couple rabbit attacks, a deer attack, extreme wind knocking it over, and some other rough conditions prior to harvesting and then revegging it. This is the first plant I've ever grown and originally it was outside. I have several more going now that look real promising indoors. Hopefully I have enough light and all that going on inside. I still have quite a bit of work to do on the room I built for them.

Patience. Let it work it out.

If it would make you feel better... Then kinda tuck some of those single blades away from the knotted budsites. It'll veg back there. Your good. Did you trim the rootball and transplant?

Ga.

Yeah I did, its in a 5 gallon container now, I didn't trim the roots a whole lot but it should be good. Plenty of new soil in there around them. Are you very familiar with SOG style growing? Or at least growing out small plants/clones rather than allowing them to get to a more adult size? I'm curious about this and plan to try it out, and I know it varies a lot by strain but I wanted to know the average size people allow a sativa dom strain to veg to keep it small but get a good yield for the size of the plant?

FYI I just took some more pictures with a better camera to show how the new branches are growing and much closer details. I'll get those uploaded tonight yet.

Awwww Hell! That thang is gonna blow outta tha pot! Ya done good! You were just a lil' scared to cut too much,huh? I know....

Revegging would be a great way to get your stock for a SOG grow..You can keep that same mama for years. Take you some cuttings and flower them at 10 inches.Tuck them together..Use all your light area.15 or 20 plants would be a nice sog. You mentioned,sativa.. That would be a No No.. Your gonna want a more Indica dominant plant for that.They stay kinda squat and not grow straight to the light. Takes less time to harvest indica.

Ga.

One of my seedlings is an indica dom, its about 6" tall at the moment. I just know I've seen SOG sativas before, and this reveg isn't pure sativa. Just looking for things to experiment with. First time trying all these things so I think I know how to do most processes, the hard part can be finding the right time to start and so on. I'm gettin there though, I just have no point of reference for how large this thing will stretch in flower when its smaller. I guess the best thing to do is just try stuff out and document it for future reference haha.

I'm sure you can use a sativa in a SOG,but it's gonna take away from short time frame of a SOG. It's a perpetual kind of procedure. As the bud ripens. Just harvest the plants that are done and add new ones as you harvest. I know the SK#1 is a good plant to do a SOG with. You keep doin' what you know is right,and not what you think is right! Then you can't go wrong. I don't doubt you know your processes.Finding the right time to start,would have to do with how many plants you have to do the SOG. And how long it takes them to veg up to 10-12 inches tall. That's what I do.. Try stuff out.

Ga.

Ga.

My indica popped out of the ground today! Also I discovered the first 5 leaf set on my reveg, perhaps its preparing to start growing like a normal plant now and I'll be able to take some clones soon. Wish me luck!

You will!! I promise. You've done it no way but,right..Mostly ya be patient! Afterall..She ain't a Jeanie in a bottle... However.. I'd love to have one!

I love Indica! Hope that puppy is a Gurlie Gurl!

Ga.

New updates coming tomorrow finally, and I promise to start being more diligent about updates on my reveg. Been a very busy couple months for me with shutting down my summertime seasonal business and trying to find some sort of random job to hold me over for the winter time. So I apologize that this thread has become boring.

So far my reveg has really taken off growing upwards now since the last pics I posted. I think I'm going to count the new branches, but it definitely has a lot more than it did when I grew it originally. Fungus gnats have been the only big problem I have had to deal with. The reveg has a large enough root system to handle them but their larva eat roots in the soil so clones and seedlings have been damaged. I finally found a good organic product to take care of those and they're pretty much all gone now. Several clones and quality seeds were lost in the process =(. I also built a new grow room and will be finishing the flowering zone tomorrow so I'll post some pics of that, nothing too fancy but it definitely gets the job done.

Just thought about this now but I had a question about cloning and sexing. If I am growing a new plant and take clones during veg (before I know the sex of the plant) and then when I put it into flower it turns out to be a male... will the clones definitely be male as well? Or how does that all work. I just want to make sure that once I get my mini-SOG going that I don't get stuck with a batch of all males at some point.

Also, if any of you have any threads or grow logs about reveg's you've done I'd love to see em. If you could link me to your threads so I can easily take a look at those that would be great.

Thanks again everyone for your continued input and advice, I can't imagine what I'd do without the ability to throw questions at you guys haha.

hi lads nice thread,i also sog have done for yrs now i like to do 25 in a 1mtr tent in 6 ltr willmas they fit perfect into the tent in a 1mtr garland try.
Ive been using chemdog for past 5 yr sat dom and i veg for 10 days after Ive potted them up from aero cloner.they stop stretching at 2ft,ish..and 1 oz a plant once ya get used to the strain you choose..

Mickrick... excellent reply for me, I appreciate the info you shared with me on that. Sounds like you have a good thing going on and I've always heard great things from Chemdog. I'd love to get my hands on some of those seeds or clones to produce some of that. I like hearing the important details of peoples SOG gardens like that, since I'm new to all this it makes it sound pretty exciting. I can't wait til I get it going....

Unfortunately... I may be stalled in my processes here. I made an unfortunate discovery on my reveg which is... the dreaded spider mites. At least I think its spider mites, I suppose its possible it could be thrips at this point being that the symtoms are similar in early stages and I have yet to clearly see one of the insects. And I just got done dealing with what I believe were nasty root eating fungus gnats that desecrated some of my clones/seedlings. In addition to the spider mite, I used my organic pest spray and didn't remember to dilute it down to a weaker solution before spraying down my plants. The end result was some leaves have gone limp and shrivvled up. Also some of the leaves have some brown burned looking spots on them now....

This was all discovered and done late last night, so as you can see it was a rough day. I'm just praying that I caught the mites early enough and that I was able to kill them off without causing too much damage to my plants in the process. I'm sure they'll pull through and survive, they'll just be a little bit stressed for a couple days. You know.. its too bad we all deal with plant stress issues and sometimes they can be difficult to correct once the stress has begun. For being a cannabis plant, you'd think they'd be pretty stress free, right? haha I wish I could just smoke them up and they'd be happy and problem free again.

btw if anyone knows of a good organic spray for mites and thrips please let me know! I've been using some that I found I need to dilute a little bit and I'm still mixing the balance to try to get that perfect. I'd prefer to find something quality that is actually ready to use without diluting.

Wish me luck!

Mickrick: Couple more things for you... the picture you had attached is extremely small, thumbnail size. If you could repost a larger one that would be great. I'd like to see your girls more closely.

Also do you have any threads going about your SOG garden? Or possibly some more pics you could post here? I'd like to see and learn more about it.

Same goes for anyone who has a SOG thread going, post me a link here so I can check it out. Or just post some pictures.

Thanks ya'll

Well here are a few pictures that were taken today of the damages that happened from my organic spray to kill the starting spider mite colony. I used a brand called EcoSmart and planned to play with diluting it but I got a little bit nervous when I saw the mites and just went into attack mode. Good news is there have been no signs of living spider mites in the last 3 days since I sprayed. Also almost no fungus gnats, maybe one here and there as it hatches and was too deep in the soil to be killed but thats it.

Anyways I believe my plants will all bounce back and wont actually die, but they're definitely hurting.

So here are the pics...

So... This is the reveg you thought wasn't gonna come back and play? Looks Great!

Ga.

Yeah shes doing real well outside of the leaf damages. I'm hoping that the really new growth popping out of the tops wasnt damaged too bad where it wont be able to continue growing upward shoots right now. There are about 10 cuttings I want to take from the high point on the top, I'm going to let it sit for a few more days before taking those.

The other thing that sort of concerns me is that the new growth is very light green or yellowish as it starts out, eventually it turns to a nice darker green, not sure if this is somewhat normal or what. Perhaps lacking a little bit of nitrogren maybe?

Damn it.... I found two living spider mites... I wonder how many others survived. I think I will need to try something new to get rid of them since the spray I used the first time burned my plants so bad.

Any good recommendations?

Just because you can do it doesnt mean you should.

Revegging stresses plants greatly! This leads to hermies.

If you are serious about growing, learn to take clones.

Every time you reveg you lose quality, and growth rates decrease. For those who are just tinkering, tinker away.
If this is more than a hobby to you revegging should literally be a last resort to fill your garden.

Not trying to be a puppy kicker, just pointing out the facts.
I would have saved a lot of time experimenting if I knew the downside.
If revegging was a good idea, no one would bother cloning.