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Hi there I am a regestered mm patient and am my own caregivers. It's almost time for me to start some new plants but is really like to find a great strain first, instead of growing whatever I could find. I have three bulging discs in my back and the pain will usually wake me up a few times a night. I also, unfortunately, have a very high tolerance for pot. It really has to be something special to assist me with the pain. I'm looking for somethin for late nights to hopefully help me fall back asleep, any suggestions? Preferably a strain that does stellar in a dirt medium.

Check out Nuken a Cash Crop Ken breed from Vancouver Seed Company. This would be one of the very best for you.

:cool:Nirvana seedbank carrie lots of medical indica/sativa hybrids and are a very good reliable seedbank with premium quality seeds or attitude seedbank also reliable and offer almost every seedbank (including nirvana)out there and they give freebies with every purchase!!!!:thumbsup:

Well .. how safe is that? B/c I've heard horror stories about ppl ordering seeds and gettinng busted. I usually work with clones, Im not sure, but isn't there a diff in the thc levels of clones and seeds? Seeds holdingng a little more thc than clones? I only have a few grows under my belt so I'm still exploring and always experamenting. I just started three mystery seeds (Idk the name of the strain they came from), ifound them in some bud I had baught and all three popped and are now about six inches in like a week. I got em seperated from the rest of my plants as idk if there gonna be female or male. Good times. How does the whole order process work for the seeds, I just wanna make sure they don't rip me off. I like to try to be:pimp: careful ordering online.

Order like anything else with a credit card, if you dont trust them with your personal card, get a prepaid credit card from a gas station or other store that sell them . if you want to make clones order regular seeds, if not then order feminized seeds ( it's not advised to clone feminized seeds may cause hermie issues). plants from seed can have more thc simply because it's 1st gen, but clones usually produce more and are more dense , take less space and are fun to work with.

Thnx a bunch fellas preciate the advice. Got a couple good pics on Flickr.com, but the seedlings one is onl there way bigger now. PGS420 is the screename ill try to keep the pics updated so ppl can see what I do.

looked at your pics on flickr really nice work!!!!:thumbsup:

your first grow looks indica? Indicas are not very good for pain relief

Lol thnx I don't really know much about strains nd stuff, but I did smoke some nd it did make my headache worse, that's y I baught diff stuff nd sold mine to the dispensary. That's where I got those 3 seeds from..

it is the cannabinoids from sativas that relieve your pain. so if the strain you grow does not contain sativa in it basicly it wont do nothing for your pain.Thc has nothing to do with pain relief or very little. Thc changes your mood. So hybrids containing sativa , pure sativas that's what you want. Look at the strain description on nirvana site you will see that only the strain with sativa in them are considered medical! Sativas can be a pain in the a.. to grow, so I recommend a hybrid gen, they grow nice and easy like indicas but contain the sativa for pain relief.

choose a white strain hybrid if you like frosty nugs!

Judging by the leaves and the bud they came from the.seedlings will be a sativa, so I hope they all turn out females...*fingers crossed*

hemperor,
You have your Sativa and Indica info backwards.

Hum? interesting statement MedicineMan11 could you be less specific?joke lol! Inlighten me on the subject. Because I'm really bummed out by your post.:wtf:

To be general and vague, sativas are more cerebral in their effect and indicas have more of a body effect, therefore, a more indica dominate hybrid will be the best for pain. Here is a good link, Medical Marijuana | Understanding Strains

Understanding Strains
Hybrids

Here is a quote from Hilary Black of the British Columbia Compassion Society: "Indica and Sativa are the two main varieties of the cannabis plant used as medicine. There are many strains that are crosses of those two varieties. Within each of those varieties and crosses there are a huge number of individual strains, each with a different cannabinoid profile and effect."

As Indica strains have more chlorophyll than Sativa they grow and mature faster. Combining different Indicas, different Sativas or a combination thereof creates hybrids. The resulting hybrid strains will grow, mature and smoke in relationship to the Indica/Sativa percentages they end up containing.

The benefits of hybridization is that the breeder can attempt to create a breed that can fit exact needs, depending on the grower or end user. In today's market the hybrids dominate, as most strains has been crossed with each other at one time or another. Hybrid cannabis strains of note: Love Potion, Harmony, Thunderbud, Super Silver Haze, Timewarp, C99, Sour Diesel, Snowcap, Trainwreck, Apollo, Big Bertha, Skunk.

Pure Sativas

Pure Sativa cannabis is a rarity in the medical marijuana field as it is very hard to cultivate, especially indoors and also outdoors in the northern hemisphere (Canada). Seeds of these types are also rare to find as vendors like to stock popular kinds and pure Sativas aren't that popular and they come primarily from more equatorial regions (Colombia, Mexico and Southeast Asia). They are tall, thin plants, with much narrower leaves and grow a lighter green in color. They grow very quickly and can reach heights of 20 feet in a single season. Once flowering has begun, they can take anywhere from 10 to 16 weeks to fully mature. Flavors range from earthy to sweet and fruity.

Pure Sativa highs can often induce paranoia attacks and irregular heart beats so as a medicinal product Sativas are a rare choice. One of the positive effects of Sativas are their uplifting capabilities that may aid in depression and/or chronic fatigue syndrome. Examples include Acapulco, Burmese and Malawi Gold.

Although pure Sativas are quite rare, they are highly coveted by breeders who use their genetic stability to create designer hybrids.
Hybrid Sativas

These are Sativas that have been worked on by a breeder to fit special criteria such as exotic smells, tastes and the "up" high Sativas are known for. Often these hybrids contain some Indica genetics but appear mostly Sativa in nature. Hybrid Sativas are coveted as medicine for the motivational properties they possess, often without the paranoia associated with pure Sativa. Sativa hybrids rarely have any pain blocking attributes and shouldn't be used as such. These types have anti-depression and appetite stimulation qualities, so can be valuable as medicine in that regard.

Common Sativa hybrids include Haze, Kali Mist, Jack Herer, Willy Nelson.

Pure Indica

Pure Indicas originally come from the hash producing countries of the world like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Morocco and Tibet. They are short, dense plants, with broad leaves that often grow a darker green, with more chlorophyll and less accessory pigments (accessory pigments protect the plant from excessive sunlight). After flowering starts they will be mature in 6 to 8 weeks and are better for indoor growing because they don't get as tall. The buds will be thick and dense, with flavors and aromas ranging from pungent skunk to sweet and fruity.

Afghani is by far the most ubiquitous strain and many modern strains incorporate these genetics. Indica plants have by far the most narcotic, body stone and pain blocking qualities so they are highly coveted by medical patients with any sort of pain. As a result of their higher CBD levels they are also helpful as a sleeping aid for those suffering with insomnia. The most common Indica's are Afghani, Pakistani, Hashplant, Herijuana, Hindu Kush and G-13.
Hybrid Indica

In terms of medical value these are the best and most widely appreciated. Today's "Kush" strains are a prime example of these types and are easily the most popular. They tend to have many qualities that both grower and patient find to their liking, therefor the majority of medical marijuana is hybrid Indica. A few examples of hybrid Indica include: OG Kush, Master Kush, Purple Kush, White Rhino, Romulan, Blueberry, Dutch Treat, Grapefruit and Northern Lights.

PGS420 as I said Nuken is one of the best easy growing with a great yield. Here is info on it: * Type: Sativa/Indica Hybrid
* Yield: Heavy
* Flowering Time Required: between 49 and 56 days;
* Cross: God Bud x Kish
* Bred by: Cash Crop Ken

The Nuken strain of medical-grade marijuana is a cross between a God Bud female and a Kish male. God Bud is of course one of the world's most demanded purple skunk strains; famous for its deep body stones and trouble-free growing ability. Kish is a double crossed Shishkaberry, a strain that produces heavy, resinous buds and also generates an Indica-dominant body-centered buzz. The Nuken strain grows larger than either of her parent strains. She will more than double in height during her flowering stage and can easily reach 5 feet tall. Indoor marijuana growers need to consider how tall she may get, as well as the amount of ceiling height they have, and prune accordingly.

CannabisSearch.com's Nuken Marijuana Strain Buzz Rating: Very Strongly-Relaxing Indica Body Stones That Are Best Experienced In The Evenings...

Able to grow very impressively either as a central cola or a multi-branching plant, the Nuken cannabis strain requires little involvement from the grower besides providing the pure water, intense light, quality nutrients and carbon dioxide that she needs. She will grow thick branches to support her dense, sticky buds. Her foliage is a middle green color and she doesn't smell very strongly until she begins curing. Her flowering phase will last between seven and eight weeks and it's important to keep her humidity levels at 40% or less. As with many Indica strains, her dense cola formations are prone to moisture-loving plant destroyers like mold, mildew, pests and more.

If you're looking for an Indica-dominant strain of medicinal cannabis to help you combat chronic pain, insomnia, anxiety and/or stress, then Nuken should be near the top of your list. She tastes like marshmallows melted down with stirred-in skunk piss and produces room-reaking aromas that demand incense for covering. Nuken marijuana will make your body and mind relax deeply and peacefully. She's not recommended for work breaks, driving or anything else that demands a whole lot of mental/physical involvement.

MedicineMan11 Thanks for clearing it up. I had read that cannabis indica hybrids that contain sativa are better at treating pain. And assumed because of the article that I read, that was not complete :mad: that sativas where for pain relief. And white strains are the best hybrids! so that's why I recommended them and theres a lot of medical whitestrains. As far as growing and breeding seeds I know what i'm doing and why i do it! But the medical side of cannabis is a new interest of mine . I'm always ready to learn. Thanks! Sorry for the misinformation :( here is a good pdf of what you said 10 times more mmj noob friendly!

http://www.highlandspringswellness.c...s%20Indica.pdf

I thought that the sativa head trip was blocking the pain signal from reaching your brain, When i should of paid more attention to the bodybuzz effect of indica. Never had notice the pain relief from indica because where i'm from the indica we grow is m-39 and i'm so used to it i dont even want to smoke it anymore! Defenitly felt the pain relief from hybrids and the headtrip from sativas it's hard to miss!

I am thinking "Tahoe OG" for during the day. Lasts until late (very long acting) and then a purple to knock off the pain completely at night! Worked for me. Some Indica's have too much Sativa for pain contol, yet you like the sativa during the day to help keep you alert and awake. Wanna sleep-a good Indica: Purple Urkle is a good one. But, I try them all! I am not fussy when it comes to testing stuff. A good Blueberry is pretty good for night, as well. Then, of course, my personal favorite-Blueberry/Kush: Can most likely get seeds from BC Grown in Cananda. Manages to mail the seeds without a problem. Just a suggestion from experience!


It has been reported by a few that the Sativa (without any Indica) can actually make your pain worse! I don't know about that. But, a friend of mines always says: "Any pot is better than no pot at all!" L.S. pr

I.have a lot of different kinds of strains. Some super lemon haze, well a lot of that. Some tangerian dream, some green crack, some skywalker, some og mush, and some unknowns

Dutch passion skywalker is it good? It as blueberry in it.do you taste and smell it or it got lost in the mix with mazar.

around here herijuana is gettimg up to 33 percent THC. look for a clone of that.

The skywalker I havnt tried yet as its my first go with that strain and its not done flowering yet. And around where is the thc 33%?

It's true that seeds do have a little bit more THC in them than a clone would, but nothing that you would notice too much. If I were you I'd try to find a good indica online somewhere.

I thought I researched the different strains offered by the major seed banks though but the highest THC levels I have ever seen is in the low twenties. I'd love to get my hands on a strain like your talking about. Help a fellow michigander stay stoned in the murder mitten

Well darthcannabis, good to see a fellow northerner bein active in the world of cannabis(I'm sure theres many, never spent a lot if time on the mmj states section) not sure what strain ur talking about, or where you at. But a few of the strains I recieved clones of are very nice. I've heard that some parts of the state has lower quality and others have primo, I just havnt figured out what part the primo is hiding in. ;)
This is a shitty close up of my bud Im going to be harvesting in the next week or so...
It's called Apollo.
The pic sux because I took it with my phone :jointsmile:

hey there, your plants look nice and i hope you get females and a few pounds. and yes the person who posted about indicas not be good for pain is misinformed......the other poster who set the record straight about indicas and sativas is on point. i prefer indicas but there are so many hybrids to choose from.....for your disc pain and sleep issues try something nice like white widow, og kush, or something that is 70 indica and 30 sativa or 50 50,........try concentrates if you really need to be medicated......good luck....peace and pot

so how about White Russian, would it be benificial?

Hold out your hand I'm in the center of the palm (B.F.E.)... the best 2 strains that I've tried from my local dispensery. Has been moonshadow & greenhornet, they bough blow your lungs up.