Do buds grow at night?

Just curious. I've been pulling a few plants inside the garage around 6 p/m for a couple of weeks, last few days I left them inside until like 7:30 ish am and I swear the bud size seems significantly larger.

I can't help but wonder if the plant itself feeds the buds all day then at night the flower releases the energy and grows? I'm sure this has been debated and I'm probably all wet but I wish I had a double blind I could compare it to. My other plants are already budding naturally so I'm going to pull a few of them inside and increase the dark cycle a little and see if I notice a difference.

Phytocrome is the hormone responsible for flower production.... It senses the light cycle and is what makes the plant produce flowers.... When the lights come on, phytocrome sits on standby while the plant(s) absorb(s) necessary energy to store and produce those flowers during the dark....

So to answer your question, YES, buds do grow at night....

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OK, well I have four plants in the back of the yard and 11 plants I'm bringing inside at 6 p/m and moving outside around 7 a/m and there is absolutely no comparison to the bud development of the two groups. I would say at this point the bud development of the plants getting longer darkness is almost double.

indoors is an abrupt light cycle change, whereas outdoors is a gradual change and will take roughly two more months than indoors. yields can be higher outdoors due to the root space being much larger. yes growth does occur at night and i would assume that daytime is feeding time and most growth occurs at rest times.

What would be the minimum amount of daylight they need to avoid any deficiencies?

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Originally Posted by Purple Daddy

What would be the minimum amount of daylight they need to avoid any deficiencies?

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mj is a full sun plant. unless you live in arizona or someplace like that which require shade covers.

i have noticed the same thing. this is why light deprivation is such a great concept.

"indoors is an abrupt light cycle change, whereas outdoors is a gradual change and will take roughly two more months than indoors."

Thanks meded for the light cycle info for buds outdoors. It explains what I'm noticing this year and the previous grow. My containers are on a balcony outside 24/7 and at my latitude, there is a long midsummer period of 13-14 hours of light during the days, and as you said, there is a gradual change. The buds have been visible for weeks, but slooooooooooow developing and maturing at this point, probably from short nights. I know the end result is worth it, because the slow growth at this time means very tall, very dense colas when they finally are ready after the 12-hour light period passes at the end of September/early October (according to the almanac). Hopin' so, anyway!

Well there is absolutely no comparison between my 24/7 outdoor plants and the ones I've been bringing inside before nightfall. I'd say after about a month the bud development/maturity is about twice on the plants put inside. I'm hoping for a similar scenario with the few I've left outside, longer growing season and bigger buds. Right now I'm stretching beyond my height limits with a lot of bending of the top branches to keep them below the fence so the sooner those ones finish the better. The others are in a different location and I can let them grow taller although one has already reached the top of my 8 foot brick wall in the back yard and I've had to bend it down as well, the others I'd be shocked if they got that tall.

So assuming the natural time for a plant to go into flowering and finish is about 3 months(aug-oct), could I assume the plants I'm forcing to bud early will finish sooner? One is about 6 weeks into forced flowering and it's starting to look like it's getting close.

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So assuming the natural time for a plant to go into flowering and finish is about 3 months(aug-oct), could I assume the plants I'm forcing to bud early will finish sooner? One is about 6 weeks into forced flowering and it's starting to look like it's getting close.

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yes you are correct. its just more manual labor("uuuhhh theres a manual"...butthead). six weeks is close maybe a couple of weeks more, strain dependent.

yes you are correct. its just more manual labor("uuuhhh theres a manual"...butthead). six weeks is close maybe a couple of weeks more, strain dependent.>>>>

No kidding, another week and I'm leaving them outside to finish. I think I'll feed that 6 weeker for the last time this weekend. The water consumption is insane right now, I have to soak them until water is flowing out the bottom and when I get home they're dry.

If they are drying fast they are in a growth spirt more likely than not.

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Originally Posted by Purple Daddy

Just curious. I've been pulling a few plants inside the garage around 6 p/m for a couple of weeks, last few days I left them inside until like 7:30 ish am and I swear the bud size seems significantly larger.

I can't help but wonder if the plant itself feeds the buds all day then at night the flower releases the energy and grows? I'm sure this has been debated and I'm probably all wet but I wish I had a double blind I could compare it to. My other plants are already budding naturally so I'm going to pull a few of them inside and increase the dark cycle a little and see if I notice a difference.

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Hey Purp!

I'm workin' on a project now that proves your point! They do get bigger and denser in the dark!
Great observation! 10/14 flowering schedule. You will be amazed at the end results!
Ga.

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Hey Purp!

I'm workin' on a project now that proves your point! They do get bigger and denser in the dark!
Great observation! 10/14 flowering schedule. You will be amazed at the end results!
Ga.

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Do you start them off on 10/14 when you move them into flowering, or do you slowly move them to 10/14?

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Do you start them off on 10/14 when you move them into flowering, or do you slowly move them to 10/14?

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Straight to 10/14.. They will bulk up and become denser and it also ripens them earlier. But that is a science you have to stay on top of when the plant is within a week of harvest.

You could gradually move it to the 10/14 schedule,but why increase stress. Get it out of the way at 1 time.

Ga.

I'm doubtful that the 10/14 schedule is optimal. This plant has been grown indoors and studied relentlessly for a long long time by people who dedicate their lives to it. I think this would have been uncovered by now. But I'll be watching GA. I'm going to try a 11/13 schedule this run just for kicks. Good on ya!

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I'm doubtful that the 10/14 schedule is optimal. This plant has been grown indoors and studied relentlessly for a long long time by people who dedicate their lives to it. I think this would have been uncovered by now. But I'll be watching GA. I'm going to try a 11/13 schedule this run just for kicks. Good on ya!

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Sure thang bigs... I'm for real! Had mine in 10/14 since they started flowering. The buds have gotten way fat and hard as corncobs. To me that is denser. You see the effects more in the finishing. Only a week left till harvest. If ya gonna do something just for kicks why not try the 10/14. I'm sure you got an hour to spare,huh?

I will agree that it's not optimal cycle to use. There are all sorts of strains that it may do weird things to. So let's just say that it could possibly be certain strains or strains with a certain amount of this or that. Who knows? I'm gonna be one that finds out.. Look at it this way.. I'm about to add some SK1 from seed into flower and normally they would run 9 weeks or into 10th week. It could be ready to harvest in 7-8 week period. The electric bill is lower,too. So there are alot of plus's to this schedule. I think you'll be impressed! Try it.

Ga.

You pull a lot of respect here GA. OK. On your advice 10/14... You'll see it soon enough. Peace.

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Originally Posted by bigsby

You pull a lot of respect here GA. OK. On your advice 10/14... You'll see it soon enough. Peace.

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Good thing! You'll be so very happy with the results.. Lemme ask what strain you gonna use it on? Reason I ask is that I could get some info on the strains that are or have been flowered with this schedule.

Ga.

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You pull a lot of respect here GA. OK. On your advice 10/14... You'll see it soon enough. Peace.

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10/14 schedule... Timer and plants. I think I'll be able to harvest one of my BigBud plant a week early due to less light. Shortens it's life span. Tell the plant to hurry up and produce all the swollen calayxes and trichomes,it can before the cold comes.(it dies)...

notice how heavy? It's fallin' over and still has 4 weeks left.

Ga.