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Day 33, still vegging, going to flower soon.
Tangerine Dream is mutant and has three leaves per node but apart from that everythings good.
Growing in soil with 1 X 250 watt cfl & 1 X 125w cfl.
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All plants 7 cream caramel and 1 of each of the others.
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Mutant
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Cream Caramel from my last grow.
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Been stretching them out a bit recently as the strain didnt stretch much last time round when i went into flower.
PhatJay- if your still about - could use some help with a feeding schedule for when i start flowering ! :smokin:
Yes yes yes... Charbud in the house!
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Nice to see you back m8. If they are all female, I would throw them into flower now. I tried vegging a bit longer on my seeded WR grow (Well it was more accidental tbh, never done from seed before) and I didnt get any more bud per watt than previous grows, the weed was just in smaller buds all over the plant and was a bitch to trim.
Changing the subject slightly, I can see why you thought I was mad to smoke the triched up trim from my earlier grows. The trim from the WR I grew from seed went straight in the bin, no way I was smoking that! My earlier trim was sooo triched up, sweet and tasty, it was impossible to throw it away. I definitely prefer growing from cuttings, although I havn't given up on the greenhouse seeds WR yet.
haha you and your trim..good to be back, i do tend to not come on the site unless i'm growing. What have you been up to recently ? Just been growing cloned WR ? and how come your prefer to grow from cuttings instead of seed ? you should get another grow log on the go, haven't seen one since your second grow or post a couple pics on here ...
With the vegging i did it a lot longer than last time because my idea of lots of small plants didn't work out at all and the cream caramel would have definitely yielded loads more if it was bigger so that's what i'm going for this time, although i may have over done em a little bit, especially when you give them miracle grow they shoot up.
Put them into flower today, one of my bulbs is making a buzzing noise..something broken ? And heres my feed chat from last grow which i loosely stuck to through my other grow and various problems.
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i'm aware i made it with the stronger side of dosages put i plan to half them all. And do you think i should mix 2L of each one, then mix them together in a cup of equal proportions for each plant when feeding ? I'm also thinking to feed once every 3 waters so feed, plain, plain, feed.. think this wont ok ? more of certain ones and less of others? Any other suggestions or tweeks would be greatly appreciated as i really want this grow to go well in terms of nute burn and my ph levels which i should have all covered unlike previous times !
One other thing i was thinking about today is when you flush do you use ph adjusted water ? because i use ph down to adjust it which i dont really want in the bud..
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Pretty plants you got there!
Cheers evertking, hopefully they look even nicer in 9 weeks :rasta:Quote:
Originally Posted by evertking
Cloned WR under 2x250w CFL atm, but I have other varieties in the pipeline. If I can borrow a camera I will post up some pics just before I harvest my next plant (I am trying a continual harvest mini SOG atm).Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
The reasons I prefer cuttings is because you know what you are going to get. The seeded WR and Powerplant varied massively in height, despite having identical food and vegging periods. The WR I am growing now is cloned and the plants form a really even canopy. Seeds also cost more than cuttings and you must know by now what a tight ass I am.
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Miracle Grow? :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
It will be the ballast in the bulb, not sure if it is a sign of failing or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
The dosages listed look just fine to me. I went with the 3ml per litre on the boost because it costs so much. What bloom nutes are you using? Also what medium are you in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
You have lost me there, not sure what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
I would go with feeding every watering. I did try 2 feeds then 1 water on my first grow, it did work just fine, I might try that again in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
I PH adjust the water with PH down during the flush, I know you are not keen on the stuff, but I would use it if I were you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
Sounds nice, id like to do continual harvests but growing in the loft makes it difficult with the temps and virtually no space! but ye try get your hands on a camera or stop being a stig and buy one !!Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
Cutting makes sense now you said that. I've noticed that with my cream caramels, there's one which is perfect, all the branches equal length and completely symmetrical yet they don't all look like this..
Well its actually miracle gro. Its a blue powder, a general NPK plant food. Should have bought specific nutes for veg but i only fed them twice so didn't really seem worth spending a tenner.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
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Did drop it before i screwed it in, fire hazard if the ballast is dodgy ?Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
Im using all Canna products so canna boost, i think you used it. I'm still growing in soil from b & q. I think its just a general potting compost stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
In terms of nutes i mix all water in 2L plastic milk cartons. So i have 6 on the go at once. So i'd make one of them boost, one cannazym, etc. Then when im watering poor a little of each into a cup (around 300ml), say 200ml boost then 100ml cannazym then feed to each individual plant.
Whats your experience with cannazym if you have used it ? Think it makes much of a difference ? Also my plants are in pretty small pots, considering they are now flowering and shouldnt stretch too much do you think they will be ok ? Im not a firm believer of things being root bound as ive seen those plants grown in party cups to about 30 cm tall and yield like 1/2 oz but could be wrong..
I'll do that, handling acid isnt nice!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
Cheers for the advice as well, always appreciated. Bit of the harvest could be sent your way in the post if you like, just in time for summer :rastasmoke:
Probably not a fire hazard, might be worth asking a Q in the lighting section to ease your mind (I know you are uneasy with electrical stuff). Don't drop them bulbs though mate, that's one of my nightmare scenarios. If you break a cfl bulb over your plants, you would have to throw the whole lot away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
So you are not using bloom nutes then, just relying on the nutes in the B&Q soil and the additives? I am surprised you have gone that route mate, lets hope it doesn't cause you any problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
Ahh right, I get you now. That seems complicated to me, I just mix it all together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
I used the cannazyme but I don't know how much of a difference it makes. I am using a different brand of nutes atm (cos they were free) and I seem to be getting similar results. I am still using the canna nutes I bought for vegging though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
Cannazyme > I am using this stuff which is similar > Dutch Pro Take Root
Cannaboost > this stuff seems to do prettty much the same > Dutch Pro Explode
Canna Hydro Flores > using this stuff instead > Dutch Pro Bloom
I am also using smallish 10" pots, I have tried larger but it doesn't seem to increase yield. I have noticed that the plants in the smaller pots drink more though, which is counter intuitive (to me anyway) and in my last grow the 2 plants in the smaller pots grew the biggest and produced the most weed.
Thanks for the offer but I'm good. I got 1 plant at 5.5 wks flower, 4 bonsai at 2.5weeks flower and 1 bonsai at 0.5 wks flower. My summer smoke is sorted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
Its stopped buzzing now, maybe just warming up or something. Thats what some growers do to increase the weight of their plants, rub crushed glass into the buds, despicable people.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
I think you misunderstood, im using all the canna products but using the soil as the grow medium. Im going to be using cannazym, canna boost & pk 13/14 & maybe canna flush.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
10 inch is quite big compared to mine, mine are like 6-7 inches but they wouldnt fit in the trays if they were any bigger. And i have to agree with you that they drink more i have to water them every day but when i used bigger pots on my first grow i probably watered every 2 -3 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
Anyway heres a picture of all of em - Day 4 Flower
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Going to use the third 125w as side lighting, just need to figure out where its going to fit first.
Looking good. Can't wait to see how the TD turns out. I'll be following this....*subscribed*
So what canna bloom nutes are you using? because I can't see any mentioned so far and give us a link to that soil aswell m8.
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Nice one :smokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by truepunk87
im using canna boost accelerator, i think you've been reading it and seeing bloom instead of boost lolQuote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
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Just checked the bag of soil its actually from homebase...multi purpose compost
Homebase Multi-Purpose Compost - 60L from Homebase.co.uk
thats the exact one, doesn't say too much but 4-5 week buffer and not suitable for plants that dont like lime, then lists some flowers? - cannabis wasn't on the list though har har
Cannaboost is not a bloom nutrient. It is an additive that increases the rate of photosynthesis. You are going to need a bloom nutrient like Canna Terra Flores (just an example lots of different ones about).
As for the soil.... It doesn't really say what is in it, which isn't much use. It says it only feeds for 4 weeks, so hopefully it won't get in the way and cause you problems.
You are going to need to sort out some bloom nutes though. In the Canna range bloom nutes end with 'Flores'
Im going to get a bottle of the terra flores soon as in that case. Also lots of the leaves are yellowing on the bottom but slowly creeping up, i did give them that general npk - miracle gro - but it still seems to continue and dont really want to feed them it when they are flowering, What should i do ? With the flores should i get the a & b one or just the one on its own ' Terra Flores'. Cheers pjay, you might aswell be growin these plants for me hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
Terra Flores for soil so i got that one, think the a & b one is for coco
The Terra Flores should come in 2 seperate bottles an A and a B bottle. You have to add the A+B nutes to water in equal amounts as you use the food (Don't mix the nutrients neat).
All the nutes I have seen come in an A+B formula (I think they all do, but if I say that, some smartass will go and prove me wrong :) ). The reason they come in seperate bottles is that the ingredients are not stable together over long periods, so don't mix too much up in advance.
edit: You are that smartass! Just read your post and I think you might be right. The Terra line looks like it might be an all in one.
There is a & b versions but i think theres an all in one aswell for soil that would normally come as vega and flores if sold as a pair. Glad i only need one as its cheaper. So what do you think about the yellowing & npk ,wait and see what happens with the flores or continue with npk ? I think its happened because theres so little soil that theres probably no nitrogen left in any of it to sustain it the plants through flowering..
Well yellowing is generally a sign of N deficiency, I would give them a little of that to sustain them until you get your nutes.
For what its worth I use the Canna terra line of nutes and as a first timer found them very good - not that I have any comparison lol. I began with the vega and continued with that right through until the girls started showing flowers (at Canna's recommendation). Then switched to terra flores (comes as one bottle) used with Cannazym. Later on I added in the PK13/14 that is also part of their line. Maybe it was partly my strain or the extra couple of weeks with the vege nutes but I had virtually nul yellowing (a touch of light bleaching) and its only now into their first week of flush that the bottom fans are starting to yellow off and drop.
I didn't use the Boost though, just stuck with molasses.
All the best Charbud with your girls - they're looking good :)
was supposed to be here today but its not so will do that. If there aren't sufficient nutrients in the soil does the plant use its leaves as food ? and tht can be another cause of yellowing other than n def ?Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
Cheers for that. I've got my flores coming tomorrow so hopefully they stay green from then on like yours :smokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by rattlingdags
Someone correct the nube (me) if he's wrong , but can't you get a nitrogen deficiency just because your ph is off? I hadn't heard ph mentioned so I'm probably missing it somewhere.
2 and half weeks through flower
Terra flores came and stopped yellowing but soil had some type of build up as the ph was coming out +0.5. Flushed them all and they are ok
Still some browning and yellowing leaves - cant figure out why as doesnt look or feel like nutrient burn
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These weird dots on some leaves - not sure either
That aside they are still budding - bit of a slow start but they are o k .
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Nice one for updating m8. Glad you got your nutes now, hopefully it will all be plain sailing from now on. :)
Have you added the extra 125w cfl into the grow room yet? You are going to need it, with all those plants.
As for the the second pic of dots/yellowing of leaves, I'm not 100% sure but I think that this is caused by over watering, is it on the old fans near the bottom of the plant? How often are you watering btw?
Fuking jarring when you write out a reply - post - then things timed out and all goes ....:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatJay
anyway - i have 2 250ws in there but you cant see the other one as i lift it out of the shot for pictures. Hasnt got a reflector on it though so thats why the girls at the front are stretching more. Im going to try squeeze it in today..
I wouldnt think that i over water em. I water every day, because they are in small pots. Sometimes there not completely dry so i just top them up a little bit because if i leave them till the next day they will be really wilted because they will have been in the heat all day with no drink then lights on at dark.
It its the older fan leaves but its been creeping up the plants and is around the 3rd node now. The yellow one with the browning on the end was really witled the otherday then the next day was complelty dryed up and crisp - ? dont know if that could help with a diagnosis
Fans arent pointing at the bottom of the plants or directly at them - point it at the bulbs..
might have to sacrifice a couple and put the others into bigger pots ?
Copy and paste is your friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
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Originally Posted by Charbud
Not sure mate, I don't know what the problem is. I had the same kind of damage as in pic 2 on a plant I have in veg, I eased up on the watering and the leaves returned to normal, but your prob must be something else.
I wouldn't bother changing the pots, Hopefully I will have a pic for you later, that will convince you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Charbud
I had to take the pic with my webcam so it is pretty crap. The buds are a really nice colour with lots of orange hairs, this girl is 24" tall and 8 weeks 2 days old, I had to pull her out early to make room for a younger slimmer girl. :) This pic was taken just after I stripped off all the big leaves and before I started trimming.
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she does look real nice. buds right down to the bottom of the plant, how much did you yield? -
mine have been coping with the smaller pots bit better recently. I think most of the leaves falling off lower down just didnt have enough light as now all the lower leaves have fallen off and the problem hasnt persisted. Canna nutrients also seem to be workin wonders - they have been looking really healthy recently and the buds are swelling - these are some pics from week 4 (couple days ago)
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Only problem at the moment is i have lost my red cherry berry amongst the other plants and cant tell which one it is. Hoping toward the end of flower ill be able to sniff her out of the other plants.
forums have been down for a while do they have bulked out since last pic.
phatjay -I definatly did veg them for too long, those lower buds will be annoying to trim and will probably yield the same amount as the smaller ones. The extra bulb i hung infront of all of them made a huge difference to the plants near it, the buds got bigger enough so they are all merging into one big cola with no gaps unlike the others.
I think next time round i might do four plants and have a 250 on each side and the 125 on top nd see what happens.
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Tangerine dream - she has a sativa look and im pretty sure the strain is about 60% sativa - she looks like she will take a couple weeks longer to finish..
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Cream caramel
This is the one that had the side lighting - going to be a nice monster bud right there
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all the plants
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2 more weeks :smokin:
still cant figure out which one is the red cherry berry either!!!
Flushed yesterday with ph'd water. Used 6 litres for each one which should be enough ?? considering their pot size.
Also decided against using canna flush as someone said in another post - doesnt make sense to use chemicals to remove chemicals - better just to wash them out with just water. makes sense.
tangerine dream looks a week behind still - very little trichome production on her. all the other are looking nice.
barneys tangerine dream
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cream caramel
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cream caramel
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Looking good mate. Don't be afraid to run the one that looks behind a little longer, an extra weeks flowering could help a lot. I'm also glad that you added in the extra light and that you noticed the difference.
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I'm really impressed with how great they look and how healthy they are in those small pots. You've really done well with them :) How often did you need to water and feed them to keep going in the little pots?
Update pls Charbud m8. Or do I have to come round there and see for myself?
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