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Is it possible to over water and water log a plant in a 5 gallon circulating drip system? It's my third grow in this system and my 1st problem with (all symptoms pointing to) a over watering / water logged dropping leaves.
I previously ran the system 24/7 and had no problems. The current plant was transplanted, looked good for awhile, then developed dropping leaves on 24/7. For the past week, watering it twice a day for 30 minutes and sill dropping.
Any other possible problems?
well are your roots not submerged all the time ? Is it drip to waste ?
How do you overwater in hydro drip ?
Look for another problem like the temp of your rez or the begining of root rot or cyano-bacteria. Posible PH problem is what I bet.
For anyone to really help you need to fill out the problem form then you will get some good advice.
The roots are in rockwool & hydrotron. They are not through the top bucket & into the reservoir at this point. The temp in the res & ph is good and balanced at 6.0. It is a recirculating drip system.
6.0 ph is a little high for hydro. Try dropping your ph down to 5.7 and see if she improves.
Best of luck and happy growing. :hippy:
You say temp is good but what is it?? also you do have air in your rez yes??
The temp in the Rez is between 68-71 degrees F. I have airstones in the Rez for 02. The plant is MK. I just added Hygrozyme to the formula.
This might sound odd...Quote:
Originally Posted by flyinhighaj
I'm thinking the Hydroton needs to be hit 15mins every 3 hours...
So less water more often is my advice...
/agree ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
in therory they will get the same amount of water but spread out over a period of time.
Are you using a single point delivery system(one hose)? if so is it possible that you are getting a channeling effect, in that the water isn't wetting the whole root system.if that is the case add a sprinkler to the end of the feed line(s)
I ask because I just went thru something that looked similar,and the remedy was shorting the off time from 90 min to 20 min.
been at this awhile now and there is still so much to learn
Daddy
"war on drugs is curtural genocide"
:stoned:maybe I not make it clear but, I think its underwatered, not overwatered
Daddy
found them smiley things
It is a "drip ring system" so it was distributed all over. I thought it may be underwatered (drip ring plugged or not pumping) at first, but the water was dripping well and never stopped flowing. This made me think over-watering of a possible disease. New growth looks good, but lower fan leaves still sag. Weak stems on previous fan leaves?
How humid is it? How hot is it in your room?
I didn't understand what you said about the roots...arethey touching the water? When my roots are touching the water I take out the drip and just let the airstones do the rest...
Never had an overwatering problem since I used a drip
Weak?? imo no not weak just waterlogged :whalephant: actually I get roots faster in water by letting it dry out some. I usually hand water till roots pop out of basket with roots heading down following the water if that makes any sence to anyone but me :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by flyinhighaj
Btw Mother says that they are overwatered and she been right everytime so far :rastasmoke:
gotta love smileys :jointsmile:
Tiny, whats happenen. so ya thinks its overwater eh? well mine haven't completely turned around so I will cut back on the flow in one bucket and see!
Daddy
Yup I'm sticking with Mother on this one (like I would argue with her lol). The leaves look "heavy" and stems of fans are limp and mushy. IMO if there is a continuous drip then the roots are never really interested in going anywhere. They could just hang out inside the tron and by fed as much as they want hence longer time to see the explosive growth of DWC. :weedpoke:
How big are the plants? The reason I'm saying this I had problems when I first transplanted "just rooted" clones in rockwool cubes into hydroton. I had a lot of problems and very slow growth until AFTER they come out of the rockwool, then they grow like lightning. You didn't say how big your rockwool cubes are.... My fix at the time was to remove much of the rockwool so that they would have less problems of penetrating thru it, since the rockwool was always wet.
keylime
But why use rockwool cubes? Why not just put rooter plugs, or splayed roots directly into hydroton 1/2" pellets?
I don't get it:wtf:
Daddy
I used to do the RW thing but thanks to Daddy and a few others it is a waste of cash. When roots come out of the rapid rooter, in to the tron it goes. I just started putting mine into 16oz tumbler cups and doing a small E&F to get the roots growing good in the tron then I put them into their final home.
I have to agree with ZZ on this one. I ran a similar setup to yours starting with the small rockwool cubes for clone and then put it in a 2" or 3" netpot with more rockwool shredded and put in the netpot to fill out the remaining space. I assume you are doing the same but using the hydrotron for fill.
I used a single line drip of just one 1/8" open end tube at the top of the small rockwool cube.(30gph pump) Believe it or not I had the best results watering just 1 minute twice a day.(lights on) The rockwool holds the water and also draws in air as the water passes through. As the roots grow down from the netpot the water drips from the netpot down the roots keeping them moist but not drenched or soaking wet. The hydrotron acts differently from rockwool/pearlite in that it does not hold the water as well and sometimes demands more watering as a result. If you have any rockwool/pearlite involved you will want to use less watering time and only a few times a day (3 or 4 max). Reduce the watering time and frequency to a maximum of 3 to 5 minutes 2 to 3 times a day or maybe even less. The plant will tell you if you need more in plenty of time to change the schedule. Keep in mind that the plant wants less watering in veg than it does in flowering in part because it is usually a bigger plant when in the flowering phase. Some say to only water when the lights are on to help keep the humidity down. The lights help burn off some of the moisture.
BTW keep your airstone setup as is.