Im boutta have some sour d piff goin. Either four or six plants. How could i keep the smell confined to one room?
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Im boutta have some sour d piff goin. Either four or six plants. How could i keep the smell confined to one room?
cant figure that out myself no matter what i try, me flat is fine but for sum strange reason outside the front door has a realy strong odour but nowhere else. be patient someone always has the answer on here :smokin:
Its amazing how much smell these things put out isn't it? I walked in my house one day and realized that the smell had taken over the entire house. I learned this about the 4th week of vegging with 4 plants. I tried covering it up, but this didn't work. I have heard people talk about using negative ion generators and ozium and cakes or whatever to mask the smell, but what I learned is that you absolutely must scrub the air to get rid of it, you can not mask it totally and if not dealt with, it goes everywhere. This takes a carbon filter and some air flow. The can-filter that I purchased cost me just over $100. It was a very wise investment. Smell is no longer an issue for me here. The filter will last roughly 1 year. When it wears out, I will get another one. Without it, I would never be able to have a visitor in my home, and my secret would definitely get out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smkngood420
Good luck in solving your problem. I suspect that smell has brought to an end many a clandestine closet grow, long before any other problems crept in.
Emmie
Its insannne how much they smell specially these sour deisle plants. That sounds like the best idea in the world tho so good looks caus thats what im gonna do. Where did u buy urs at so i kno where to get one from. Ill prob get it offline or somethin
i too was wondering if this could be purchased at a Home Depot or Lowe's. I live in an apartment, and down the line will need to figure this out, so i can add it into my notes.
In my opinion one word. IONIZER !
No, you can't get these at Lowes or Home Depot. Get on Google and do a search for "can carbon filter hydroponic" and I am positive you will be headed in the right direction. I got mine with cash at a hydroponics supply store in the large city near me. You will also need a fan to pull your air through this filter. I spent $130 on a fan, ducting to draw from 2 tents and another $100 on the filter. Hopefully no one told you that growing was a cheap hobby.Quote:
Originally Posted by iambuterdtoast
Here are the problems with ionizers. They put a negative charge in the air which makes particles of dust, plant smelly things, etc. attract and attach themselves to the walls and such around this generator. Over time, this is going to build up and create a mess that needs to be cleaned up. I would rather have all that mess trapped in a neat filter that I can simply throw away and replace when it has reached its capacity. Also, if you are trying to get air flow into and out of your grow area, you need to scrub this air going out... most ionizers work best in a less breezy environment or a larger room where the particles have time to do that attraction thing before the air is sucked out and replaced by your air flow system. An ionizer is more of a passive system whereas the can filter is an active scrubbing system designed to work with typical air flow. Some will swear by the ionizers and they must work pretty well in some applications or they wouldn't be sold... but my money is on the active carbon filters used in conjunction with our needs to replace the air supply in our grow rooms on a constant basis.
Now if you want to spend a LOT of money, look into the inline ionizers that use very high voltages and are designed to work in an active air duct system. They probably work pretty good, and for the price they charge for them, they damn well better.
Emmie
You godda watch out with apartments. i got first hand experience with that lol
emilya said it when she typed.... CARBON FILTER..... Bigger is better in the situation of an apt.:thumbsup:
No ozone generator.. You would raise a red flag for someone lookin' for a grow.. Think like thet do!!! Theives....:thumbsup:
Hey thanks a lot im gonna jump online n check shit out n getna carbon filter. Its def an expensive hobby ill end up spending quite a bit of money.
Thanks!
OHH YEAHH!!! quite expensive... maybe once you're on your feet it will pay for itself ? :thumbsup:.... Hopefully it pays off though :stoned::jointsmile::hippy::DQuote:
Originally Posted by Smkngood420
Yes you will spend alot in equipment.. But,well worth the investment. Most hobbies that are worth keepin' are money munchers..Quote:
Originally Posted by Smkngood420
Just think... You have the worst issue of growing at bay with the carbon filter.NO SMELL.:thumbsup: Then who's gonna know.You could use yours as a scrubber to keep from screwing yourself outta ya deposit. Like cutting holes and not fixin' them. Bye Bye Deposit..:D
I was just reading about a Activated carbon filter/scrubber carbon cannon and i have no idea at all wht any of it means n i think itd be good to know what it means
You raise an issue that has been bouncing around my mind. How do you dispose of an old carbon filter? You can't just chuck it in the recycling bin, now can you... Mine is rate to last for 3 years at full CFM and as I'm using at about 2/3 the rated CFM I expect to get well more than 3 years but then what? It's frikkin' huge. I guess I'll be looking for an unattended dumpster when the time comes...Quote:
Originally Posted by emilya
My buddy has a 10" inline ozonator and the damn thing works a charm. There is no particle buildup, or he hasn't complained of any. My guess is the fan blows it 99.9% of it out of the vent. The problem with Ozone is that it is toxic. You have to vent externally. Oh and you have to replace the lights every 18 months or so which has costs too.Quote:
Originally Posted by emilya
You might need to read then... see the link in my signature about fans. There is a bit about filters in there. It's pretty simple. The fan pulls (or pushes in some cases) the air through the filter which removes the organic material. Hence it scrubs the air before exiting the grow area. You vent the room and eliminate the odor in one shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smkngood420
Alrite ill check it out thanks
Would i have to vent the smell out or would it just be taken out of the air completely?
Or does the air just get sucked in and filtered out and then not smell anymore making the room not smell?
You are over engineering this thing...
You have a room. In that room you have some stinky plants. You cut a passive vent in the bottom of your room (a hole) that lets fresh air in. Separately you have a filter attached to a fan attached to a duct which leads out of the room (through a separate hole near the ceiling). The fan pulls the air through the filter and then expels it out of the room via the duct. The filter cleans the air so that the air exiting the duct (outside of your room) is now odor free. Fresh air is drawn in through the hole near the floor due to negative pressure created by the fan. Here, I can diagram it if needed...
Filter > fan > duct out of hole near ceiling > filtered, odor-free air exits room
Room with odor
Room with odor
Room with odor
Hole near the floor > fresh air enters room
I vent my 2 tents into a closet in the same room. That closet has a vent that goes to an outer porch area, but no active ventilation. The fan is also in there to reduce noise. Total house damage was 1 hole for a 4" Y in the closet door. The filter is at the other end of the fan at the very end of this system, sitting in the closet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smkngood420
If I open the tent flaps for 30 min, the smell is noticeable in the bedroom and if I kept it open, it would quickly go throughout the house. With the air system closed however and all the expelled air from my tents going through that filter in the closet, there is no smell and no noise. For me it is a perfect solution. When it stops working in a year or so, I will toss the filter with its 16 LBS of activated charcoal in the local grocery store dumpster on my way to picking up a new one.
So no, you don't necessarily have to vent to the outside with it, but keep in mind too that neither you nor the plants want to have the same old recirculated air over and over again. You have to get fresh air into that system somehow, and that means that somewhere air has to be getting out too. In the summer time for me this will be much easier to do since an air conditioner will be bringing the fresh air in, but for now it is more of a challenge. Just as I need to bring water to my grow area, I also open a door or a window now and then to allow new air inside. Its not hard once you have the proper tools in place to deal with the worst part... that smell.
Good luck!
Emmie
Oooh i get it. Yah i just needed someone to explain it it to me i always go to far nto shit. Usualybid open the window for a bit to fill the bedroom with new air. Then lull the curtain back on the grow n let the new air cycle in. Id do that probly twice a day or so. One thing i could do is cut a hole in my closet n let the filterrd air just expel into my bedroom n just open the window n let some fresh air in everyday. Idk ill read everything a few more time go get my materials and make somethin happen. I just needa get my set up down
What if im not able to put any holes in the ground? Only in walls and doors n shit. Im tryin to decide how id set everything up with my closet. I could put a hole in my closet door n let the air exit into my room that way. But how id get the new air in there is puzzling me. I needa figure out a blueprint were i can keep it closed off n have it not get to hot n the closet and cycle all the air in n out with no smell at all. Eventualy ill b running two 300watt hps so itll get pretty warm specialy with a well insulated room.
if you are pushing air out of the closet through your filter at the top, it would be an easy matter to leave the bottom gap big enough to let air flow in from under the door to replace it. Presto... cool fresh air comes in, flows over your plants, gets scrubbed and sent out the top. Then all you need to do is put a flap of some kind at the top of this vent in the inside to block out light and you are golden. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Smkngood420
Emmie
i got it allll figured out, thanks everyone!
i've been asking this question as well. they aren't very conducive to stealth disposal are they!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigsby
I've had the box it came in kicking around for ages. I was about to throw it away today and then thought better. Fits like a glove. At least with the box it won't look like I'm hauling something from 24 out of my trunk...
How To Convert your Closet DoorQuote:
Originally Posted by Smkngood420
OK, so I can tackle this.
Supplies:
hole cutter on a drill
a jig saw
an inline fan, i use 10in vortex 790 cubic foor per minute.
expanding insulation foam in a spray can. "for use on gaps 1 in or bigger"
shur tape (metal duscting tape)
flexible ducting. this is *very* important to avoid tears and leaks.
Cut the 10inch hole in the top portion of the door. You want the hole nearer the side of the door with the hinge.
Run the flexible ducting through. With a sharpie mark where the door and the tubing line up with the door open. Now with a sharpie mark where the door and tubing line up with the door closed.
Prop your door open to about 90 degrees. Use the shur tape to hold the ducting in place on the door. Leave only a couple of small spaces to spray insulation between the gaps between the door and ducting.
You will probably loose some mobility in your door as a result, but mine opens about 70 degrees.
Buy 2 vents from your hardware store and cut a hole in the lower half of the door for intake. attach vents.
Remember the air pushes out and is passive intake.
Hook up the fan and carbon filter inside your grow room and you are good to go.
You can ventilate directly into your room and the smell will be significantly reduced.
Optimally you would run ducting into an attic or to a window and send it outside.
Also, some people add air fresheners to the out vent so it smells like linen.
I also suggest running everything through the door so you don't damage the rental property. I purchased my own door for about $30. It is always better not to piss off the land lord, especially if a small investment can avoid problems.
I hope it helps.
I guess I should count myself lucky. I was able to purchase an Ionizer about the size of a radar detector that will handle a area 900 SQ Ft.. Darn thing works great. Cant smell a fart in that room. purchase price was $25.00 best money spent. Look at thrift stores for those bargains. A thrift store can be a DIY guys kinda store if you can think outside the standard planter box.
:thumbsup:
I use ona blocks and love them. Although it only masks the odor and does not eliminate it, my grow is small enough that they work wonders. The ona pro gel has nothing on the block IMO. The blocks r cheaper so I can buy more and set them around the house and even the attic during late flower and drying and have never smelled my beauties anywhere but my grow room.
It has been some time since I first posted regarding these carbon filters. Since writing that original series of posts I purchased a second inline carbon filter. After putting this new one into service I took the top off of the original filter by drilling out the rivets, and emptied the carbon into a 5 gal bucket. I then took this outside and added water from the hose. This boils off the contaminants in the carbon, and after about an hour of adding new water, draining and stirring, I ended up with water running off clear, and all the black sludge from the contaminants flowing down the driveway.
Then I took a large foil turkey basting pan and moved the carbon to my BBQ grill and heated the carbon up to 500 deg for 2 hours. This burns off the remaining contaminants and "re-activates" the carbon. The carbon retains heat remarkably well, and after a couple hours of cooling it was ready to move back into the empty filter shell. I used machine screws and a couple of new holes to re-attach the lid to the filter, and presto....
$0, and I have a completely refurbished filter ready for another year's service! In the process I lost a little bit of carbon as it broke up, and some ended up flowing down the driveway. This lost was minimal however, and a $10 bag of carbon bought on Amazon.com was sufficient to make up this small loss with plenty left over for next time.
I now know that my fan will probably expire (10 year warranty) before I EVER have to throw away a filter that has worn out.
Enjoy!
Emmie
Why don't you just take the old filter and discreetly put it in front of your nosey old neighbor's door after midnite.....or out by their trash can on the eve of trash pick-up day? :wtf:
And Emmie.....what a great idea!!!
A girl that can run some tools...WOW!!:thumbsup:........................... ..J
Newbie here and know absolutely nothing. Are these filters legal?
Why would they not be? You need to be careful though chatting on marijuana forums... not sure that is legal. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GasAuldBuck