First Timer: Ak47 Feminized Lowryder + Led Ufo + Many Traumas

Hi, me and my friend are living somewhere on this world, this is the first time we try to do this, we did this due to curiosity and for trying to be indipendent from the Dealers' world.

We bought 3seeds of AK47 Feminized and Lowryder (now i have some doubt abou that).

We also bought a Led Lamp Ufo with red, orange and blue led.
1. We planted and set everything about first days of December.

2. 8 December our seed saw the light.

3. Some time passed and the 3 plants growed well, the first that came out was the bigger\taller and the plants respected in size the "came-out time".

4. The plants were growing in a well-aired but a little bit cold (around 10/15 degree Celsius) place.

5. One day my friend had "parents-problem" that force him to quickly and stealthly find another place in his grandma's house. In this transition period the plants stayed without light and in a cold (7/10 C degree) outside place for 2-3 days.

6. Now they are in a not warm (14\17) place, well-aired place but as you can see from the date they're still not Harvesting.

7. The period written on the Seeds was of 14 days of growing and 56 of harvesting. Now 76 days have passed and no trace of any harvest.

What do you think about it? I'll soon Upload some photos to clear your doubts.

Please help me, cause i don't know what to do.

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Originally Posted by easyweezy

Hi, me and my friend are living somewhere on this world, this is the first time we try to do this, we did this due to curiosity and for trying to be indipendent from the Dealers' world.

We bought 3seeds of AK47 Feminized and Lowryder (now i have some doubt abou that).

We also bought a Led Lamp Ufo with red, orange and blue led.
1. We planted and set everything about first days of December.

2. 8 December our seed saw the light.

3. Some time passed and the 3 plants growed well, the first that came out was the bigger\taller and the plants respected in size the "came-out time".

4. The plants were growing in a well-aired but a little bit cold (around 10/15 degree Celsius) place.

5. One day my friend had "parents-problem" that force him to quickly and stealthly find another place in his grandma's house. In this transition period the plants stayed without light and in a cold (7/10 C degree) outside place for 2-3 days.

6. Now they are in a not warm (14\17) place, well-aired place but as you can see from the date they're still not Harvesting.

7. The period written on the Seeds was of 14 days of growing and 56 of harvesting. Now 76 days have passed and no trace of any harvest.

What do you think about it? I'll soon Upload some photos to clear your doubts.

Please help me, cause i don't know what to do.

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how old are you guys? implicating a grandma isnt too cool. in anycase it might be bogus seeds.

What is Bogus Seed?
How to recognize it?

I was joking about Grandma's thing :)

If I send you photos it could be helpful?

This are my Photos.
If someone could edit please the first Post.

Have you guys changed your lighting cycle onto 12 hours on then 12 hours off? Doesn't look like they have done much about flowering.
They do need to be warmer also, thats chilly temps you've got them in.

The cold and the lack of light is going to delay any "harvesting" period and stunt the growth of any plant. It sounds like you just potted the seeds without germinating them first, which might be why the seeds were "bogus" since 3 out of 6 seems a bit low turnout to me, particularly if they are the more expensive feminized seeds you paid for. The pics of your plats, assuming they are recent, look to me that they are way too small for the time you've put in, but if they are larger than they appear, I see no flowering or budding and you have to do what the previous poster said and change the light cycle. I'm just amazed your plants are still living with all that rough treatment, but then, plants can be delicate but nature is very robust. Good luck with the rescue and read the advice in other posts on this forum and follow the directions.

Peace

Never did that. I thought they were lowryders so no need to change hours.

Do you think i shoul do that now?

Any hope they will start flowering?

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Originally Posted by easyweezy

Never did that. I thought they were lowryders so no need to change hours.

Do you think i shoul do that now?

Any hope they will start flowering?

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They are only going to flower if you change the cycle. In the wild, the amount of sun changes with the seasons and shortening sun periods in the day indicates to the plant it is time to flower. Growing indoors allows you to force the light cycle so that they enter that phase when you decide, but without that change you are still in the growth cycle, even if they are dwarfs.

Sounds like you really need to read up. Not being critical, everyone has to learn before they know their shit, and I personally find it fun. As with any gardening, the more you know about a plant's needs the better harvest you are going to get. You should follow some of the grow journals on this site and read the things that worked and failed for people, read the replies to their efforts and emulate the stuff that works and is feasible for you. I don't know if anyone here would recommend them, but if you don't like finding info on this site, Ed Rosenthal has made a bunch of pretty decent books and you can get that free on thepiratebay.org or some other torrent site.

Peace

You all have right my friends.

I don't live in a country that make me easy and safe talking and searching on the internet about this stuff.

You don't know how many proxy (and how many tries and refresh) i have to do just to visit this website.

The Big Brother is watching us poor people that are not free to live our lives in peace.

They want to grow us in Full Ignorance.

I knew the thing about the light cycle, but i've also read referring to my special seeds that "lowryders" plants will automaticly harvest without changing the light cycle and keeping 18hrs.

So the only doubt I had was about my seeds (really lowryder or not?).

That photos were token the same day of uploading on this Forum.

Thank you for all your help, this is a Great Community, and i Hope one day i'll Join it with my real Nickname, from my real Ip, without any Fear.

Now i Have some other Doubts about removing useless Leaves:

i usually find on the Main Body of the Plant two branches starting from the same point: one that originate a very BIG LEAVE that goes really far from the Main Body and another one that originate lot of stuff (little leaves, cymes).

Somebody told me that in this case (two things) i have to remove the Big Leave is it correct?

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Originally Posted by trejedy

They are only going to flower if you change the cycle. In the wild, the amount of sun changes with the seasons and shortening sun periods in the day indicates to the plant it is time to flower. Growing indoors allows you to force the light cycle so that they enter that phase when you decide, but without that change you are still in the growth cycle, even if they are dwarfs.

Sounds like you really need to read up. Not being critical, everyone has to learn before they know their shit, and I personally find it fun. As with any gardening, the more you know about a plant's needs the better harvest you are going to get. You should follow some of the grow journals on this site and read the things that worked and failed for people, read the replies to their efforts and emulate the stuff that works and is feasible for you. I don't know if anyone here would recommend them, but if you don't like finding info on this site, Ed Rosenthal has made a bunch of pretty decent books and you can get that free on thepiratebay.org or some other torrent site.

Peace

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whoa now buddy.... ACTUALLY weezy is right here. they are AUTOFLOWERING plants. they do not need to be set on a 12/12 schedule to induce flowering.

sounds like somebody else should do their reading:wtf:

I actually started the 12/12 cycle because i was desperate.

Let's see what we get.

What about my previous question?

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Now i Have some other Doubts about removing useless Leaves:

i usually find on the Main Body of the Plant two branches starting from the same point: one that originate a very BIG LEAVE that goes really far from the Main Body and another one that originate lot of stuff (little leaves, cymes).

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Yes your are right, you shouldn't of had to change the light cycle on those auto's to kick them into flowering. However, you would not be the first I've seen on this forum and others that got something besides what you ordered.

If growing auto's and they don't start to flower within a week of when they are supposed to, then switch the lights. Odds are you were given or sold some seeds that aren't lowryders.;)

easyweezy, the first grow can be the most exciting and the most frustrating at the same time. I agree that switching your light schedule should not be necessary with the auto flowering strains you and your buddy chose, but maybe you didn't get what you thought you did. Switching to the 12/12 light schedule will take care of that.

Try to leave as many of the big leaves on your plants as possible. Those are your plant's best "light factories" and are needed by your plant. The branch that comes out near the same spot as the leaf won't grow into much of anything if you remove the big leaf before it gets going.

I'm having a similar problem with low temps and stunting. With an LED setup there isn't much heat given off, so the room air needs to be kept warmer. I've been resistant to turning up the heat in the room, since I don't use it much, but I now know I should have since I'm only about two weeks from harvest and all I have to show are small thumb sized buds. Lots and lots of sparkley frosties though, and I think cooler temps encourage that.

Good luck, and don't piss off Grandma. Do your next grow somewhere else. It's not fair to her.

MoMo

Thank you very much. This is really a Great Community.

We made a mistake cutting the Big Leaves, but as you now, the Led Light is not so "spready" so big Leaves leave the rest of the plant in Shadows.

Thank you for the Lesson.

About the Grandma thing, i won't make another cycle until me or my friend will go living in our own house, this case was extraordinary and we really didn't want to kill the plants, not for the money or for the weed, but just because we don't like to end another being life.

About the other thing let's hope the Season get Warmer.

Thank you for the comprehension.

"We made a mistake cutting the Big Leaves, but as you now, the Led Light is not so "spready" so big Leaves leave the rest of the plant in Shadows."

Actually, LED light penetrates pretty far down. You may not perceive it because your eyes are more sensitive to green light, but the penetration is there.

I had a plant get so dense under LED that come flower time I lost about 1/3 due to mold because the inside was THICK with growth and no airflow could get through.