Which route? Test pure or dilution? Test is on 2/15!

Hey guys, I'm new here and have a urinary pre-employment screening this Tuesday.

I've been reading lots of threads and I can't figure out which route to use, Test Pure or dilution? To start, my friend has used Test Pure and passed which is why she recommended it to me. I just bought a bottle of Test Pure Magnum along with a test strip at my local headshop. Just today, I followed the instructions and when I tested myself, the test strip had 2 lines (one for control, and one for test), however, the line on the "test" area was kind of faint. But according to what I've read on this forum, as long as there is a line, it should be considered as a pass??? However, when reading the thread about Test Pure, there seemed to be a good amount of people who discredit Test Pure stating it doesn't work, which worries me a lot!

When reading N2's thread about dilution, there seemed to be a fair amount of people who did this method and it worked for them! Plus, it's much easier on the wallet and supposedly the end result should be just as good as a detox drink, if not better???

So my question to you all is... should I buy another bottle of Test Pure Magnum and drink that the day of my screening? Or should I go with the dilution method? I'm in need of this job and any help/suggestions/recommendations/comments would help me greatly! Also, will working out (cardio) help at all?? Thank you in advance guys/gals!

Oh btw, I'm 5'9, a moderate smoker (3-5 times a week). Last time i smoked, I took two hits from a pipe, and that was last Wed, 2/9.

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I've been reading lots of threads and I can't figure out which route to use, Test Pure or dilution?

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When you consume detox drinks, you are diluting. ALL detox drinks "work" because of dilution. They are actually a less effective means of dilution over the Dilution sticky thread, because the creatine content in those drinks will do no good when the product is consumed on the day of the U/A, as it takes 2-3 days for the body to metabolize the creatine into creatinine.

In summary, detox products are a scam to seperate the credulous from their cash. You can spend up to $200 on a magic elixir, and accomplish nothing different than what can be accomplished using just vitamin B2 and water.

Youre better off utilizing the steps outlined in Dilution sticky (skip the aspirin step though).

Exercise is fine, but if your test is 3 days or less away, stop all fat-burning activities and be as dormant as possible to avoid releasing a bunch of THCA into the bloodstream, which will end up in the urine to be detected.

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Originally Posted by stonednrelaxed

Hey guys, I'm new here and have a urinary pre-employment screening this Tuesday.

I've been reading lots of threads and I can't figure out which route to use, Test Pure or dilution? To start, my friend has used Test Pure and passed which is why she recommended it to me. I just bought a bottle of Test Pure Magnum along with a test strip at my local headshop. Just today, I followed the instructions and when I tested myself, the test strip had 2 lines (one for control, and one for test), however, the line on the "test" area was kind of faint. But according to what I've read on this forum, as long as there is a line, it should be considered as a pass??? However, when reading the thread about Test Pure, there seemed to be a good amount of people who discredit Test Pure stating it doesn't work, which worries me a lot!

When reading N2's thread about dilution, there seemed to be a fair amount of people who did this method and it worked for them! Plus, it's much easier on the wallet and supposedly the end result should be just as good as a detox drink, if not better???

So my question to you all is... should I buy another bottle of Test Pure Magnum and drink that the day of my screening? Or should I go with the dilution method? I'm in need of this job and any help/suggestions/recommendations/comments would help me greatly! Also, will working out (cardio) help at all?? Thank you in advance guys/gals!

Oh btw, I'm 5'9, a moderate smoker (3-5 times a week). Last time i smoked, I took two hits from a pipe, and that was last Wed, 2/9.

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One simple answer... Dilution. Detox drinks work purely on dilution and poorly I might add. They contain vitamin B2, Creatine and instruct you to drink copious amounts of water with their product. What they don't tell you is that Creatine must be loaded 2-3 days in advance so that it can metabolize into Creatinine. This is one of the integrity checks along with specific gravity that they will use to insure that your sample is not diluted. You can load Creatine simply by eating red meat, pork or fish from now until test time and save yourself from having to buy a Creatine supplement.

If you confident that you can pass using the Dilution method given the amount of time since your last smoking session, then that's up to you. If I were you I would substitute with Quick Fix synthetic urine or a friends clean sample.

If you decide to follow the dilution method, make sure you follow it to a T. You can skip the Aspirin part it no longer applies and you'll want to substitute Gatorade for water(it helps with specific gravity).

Deige-

I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with using Quick Fix as I have never used it before. How/where do I place the bottle to sneak it into the restroom? I've read to place it in between 2 briefs (do they pat you down before the test?)? And do I just simply pour it into the test cup from the bottle it came in? Just worried about getting caught since Quick Fix's site also said to shake it up before administering it. Might look suspicious if i'm shaking it during the test? And is this a pretty fool proof method?

Regarding dilution... so if i skip the directions of taking aspirin 4-12hrs in advance, do I just pick up and continue the dilution method the day of the test, 3-4hrs ahead by drinking water/gatorade (2, 8oz cups)? Also about creatine... my friend gave me 3-4tbls of creatine supplement that he had left. Is it advisable to take this the day of, or days before the test to boost creatinine levels?

Sorry for the many questions and thank you for your help!

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Originally Posted by stonednrelaxed

Deige-

I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with using Quick Fix as I have never used it before. How/where do I place the bottle to sneak it into the restroom? I've read to place it in between 2 briefs (do they pat you down before the test?)? And do I just simply pour it into the test cup from the bottle it came in? Just worried about getting caught since Quick Fix's site also said to shake it up before administering it. Might look suspicious if i'm shaking it during the test? And is this a pretty fool proof method?

Regarding dilution... so if i skip the directions of taking aspirin 4-12hrs in advance, do I just pick up and continue the dilution method the day of the test, 3-4hrs ahead by drinking water/gatorade (2, 8oz cups)? Also about creatine... my friend gave me 3-4tbls of creatine supplement that he had left. Is it advisable to take this the day of, or days before the test to boost creatinine levels?

Sorry for the many questions and thank you for your help!

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The collector cannot legally pat you down, they will only ask you to empty your pockets and remove your coat if necessary. You will not be watched either, so shaking it lightly when your in the bathroom won't make much noise. Quick Fix is 100% effective if you can get the temperature correct. The acceptable range is between 90-100 degrees, but to avoid suspicion 96-98 will look better.

As far as dilution... Just skip the aspirin part and continue with the consumption of Gatorade only. The Creatine supplement will work along with a little red me and is fine to take up to day of the test. Taking it on test day will be useless.

so...

1) if i used my friend's urine, do they just piss in a non-lubricated condom, rinsed out so there's no powder residue?

2) Where would i conceal it?

3) And how do i keep it warm and make sure it's in the acceptable temperature range of 96-98 degrees?

4) Do i use a safety pin to puncture the condom to release the urine into the cup... will that hole be big enough w/o having my friend's piss dripping down my thigh =P

Condoms are susceptible to rupture and leakage. Youre better off using a miniture, travel-size shampoo bottle thoroughly rinsed out. Stick-on type baby forehead temp strips can be used to monitor the sample temp. Crotch and carry as outlined in N2s Substitution sticky thread.

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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast

Condoms are susceptible to rupture and leakage. Youre better off using a miniture, travel-size shampoo bottle thoroughly rinsed out. Stick-on type baby forehead temp strips can be used to monitor the sample temp. Crotch and carry as outlined in N2s Substitution sticky thread.

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In N2's thread about substitution, he mentions to test the urine's temperature from inside of the cup. Do i do this with the same kind of thermometer we use to check for fevers (the kind we put underneath our tongue)? Should i use a digital or the old fashion mercury kind? reason i ask is because don't most digital ones make a beeping sound somewhere along the duration of reading the temperature?

And here's my idea, please give me your thoughts on whether it will work/ is a good idea....

I plan on taking my friend along with me the day of the test but have him wait in the car or even drop him off somewhere while i get tested. About 20-30min prior to arriving at the test location, we'll pull over to some fast food place and have him pee in a 2oz shampoo bottle, then i will take it from there and use the 'crotch and carry' method all the way to the testing facility. I'll also use N2's suggestion of crossing my legs so the bottle is enclosed between my thigh so i can maintain or raise the temp to 96-98 degrees. Do you foresee any issues with this method? Do you think i will be able to maintain 96-98 degrees simply by keeping in my crotch area for 30min-1hr (not sure how long i'll have to sit in the waiting room before i get tested)?

I plan on taking him along instead of getting his urine early so the urine is as 'warm' to body temperature as possible so i won't have to spend too much time to rewarm it between my thigh or in a cup of warm water.

Thanks! I'm just worried and stressed out about this whole ordeal.

I think i like the substitution method best since I KNOW for sure the urine is clean BUT i just gotta make sure the temp is right!

Also, is 2 ounces of urine all i need for the test?

All of the subsequent questions youre asking has been answered many times throughout the forum. Questions on maintaining temp, how much sample to bring, etc; can all be found by utilizing the forums Search button.

Read and learn.

Ok, my fault, i've been a long time member on another site and i should have known to search prior to asking some of my questions. BUT after your post, i did search. Regarding temperature, I guess the key word is PRACTICE and doing test runs beforehand. But I couldn't find anything about how much sample to bring. I'm ASSUMING 2oz is enough but some members have also mentioned 3oz. Which is the proper and acceptable amount?

I'd greatly appreciate if you or Deige or other members could help answer my query. :rastabong:

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BUT after your post, i did search. Regarding temperature, I guess the key word is PRACTICE and doing test runs beforehand. But I couldn't find anything about how much sample to bring. I'm ASSUMING 2oz is enough but some members have also mentioned 3oz. Which is the proper and acceptable amount?

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Try using the keywords "dump discard excess".

Thanks for all the help guys! I took Deige's suggestion and took the substitution route by using my friend's urine, and needless to say, I PASSED! :jointsmile:

Welcome to the Sub Club. Congrads to you on a successful sub.

Best wishes. :smokin: