I'm in need of some good advice ! plz

Hi ! ,.

I have started my first grow as a novice and am having a few prob's ,. My plants are just over a week old now ,and seem to be going yellow through the middle , there are yellow line's appearing on the vains of the leave's and little patches as well as leaves looking a little yellow, tips are also yellow !,. On a different plant the leave's are very dark in colour and looked waxed also with yellow tip's and also some tips are faceing down??? .....

...Here is a few thing's i'm useing..... I have them in a tent , useing a 600 watt spectrum bulb , i have the plants in soil plagron with perlite,. The plants are roughly 2ft away from lamp, Temp is 78-84 , Light off is about 66-76, i've been watering every 3 day's (with light on) ph level i think im getting to 6.5 (useing a aquarium test kit) cant say what the run off is tho
I am not feeding any feeding product's, Only useing super thrive (good??)

Any help would be appreciated :)

I will try and get some pic's on A.S.A.P

There is another plant that has all the leaves dark !!..

When i turn the lights off i turn everything off , i.e fan filtter fresh air ! Should i or should leave on ??

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Originally Posted by budbudding

There is another plant that has all the leaves dark !!..

When i turn the lights off i turn everything off , i.e fan filtter fresh air ! Should i or should leave on ??

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THSES ARE JACK PLANT'S IF THAT CAN BE OF ANY HELP !!

These are the questions

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What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)

Your Equipment:
1) Type and wattage of lights?
2) Distance from tops?
3) Reflector type?
4) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?
5) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?
6) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? How located?
7) Do you have other equipments like heater, humidifier or any other?

Your medium:
8) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)
9) Size of container.
10) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?
11) How did you use it? (How much soil in container, did you press, if transplanted when and from what size etc.)

Your nutrients and water:
12) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered)
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. (How often and how much)
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
15) How do you water/feed (slowly, pouring all the water at once, until seeing the runoff, etc... Give detail)
16) What are the pH values (water, soil, ingoing, runoff) What are the pH checking methods?
17) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors?
20) What size of closet, room or hut?
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?
22) What type of reflector material you're using for the walls?
23) Have you seen signs of insects in the grow room?

Your strain:
24) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)
25) From seeds or clones?
26) Is this an autoflower strain?

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And give other details that is not asked here if you remember any. Give detailed pictures from the top, from the sides, macro focused...

Only thing I can say by just looking at those pictures and the details you gave, blue pot and the next one looks over watered.

At least leave the exhaust fan on for the night.

They only drop like that when the light has been on them for about 14 hours , when i turn the light off and put back on again after 6 hours give it an hour and there hitting the roof!!!!

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Originally Posted by budbudding

They only drop like that when the light has been on them for about 14 hours , when i turn the light off and put back on again after 6 hours give it an hour and there hitting the roof!!!!

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I'm asking 50 questions you're giving only one answer. How can I or anyone else help properly with that?

YES provide as much info as possible this could be a number of thing
MOLYBDENUM def; or to much MANGANESE provide as much as possible
you will get better results more help easier diagnostics

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Originally Posted by tevfik

I'm asking 50 questions you're giving only one answer. How can I or anyone else help properly with that?

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Your Equipment:
1) Type and wattage of lights? SUN MASTER 600 WATT DUAL SPECTRUM
2) Distance from tops? 2FT
3) Reflector type?
4) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 600WATTS KELVIN RATINGS??? , 18 on 6 off
Your Equipment:
5) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? YES TWO 4" DUCTING FROM TENT TO OUT SIDE
6) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? How located? YES located @ inside at the top, fan @ top at a slight angle down ways
7) Do you have other equipments like heater, humidifier or any other? NO

Your medium:
8) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) soil -PLAGRON GROW MIX WITH PROLITE, ADDED SUPER THRIVE 10 DROPS PER GALLON
9) Size of container. ????
10) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? NO
11) How did you use it? (How much soil in container, did you press, if transplanted when and from what size etc.)

Your nutrients and water:
12) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) TAP
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. (How often and how much) 1/2 EVERY 3 DAYS
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
15) How do you water/feed (slowly, pouring all the water at once, until seeing the runoff, etc... Give detail) JUST POUR LET SOAK THEN POUR AGAIN
16) What are the pH values (water, soil, ingoing, runoff) What are the pH checking methods? WATER IN IS ROUGHLY 6.5 USEING TEST KIT
17) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...) SUPERTHRIVE
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? NO

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? IN DOORS , GROW TENT
20) What size of closet, room or hut? 1200X1200X2000 mm
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? ON 79-84
22) What type of reflector material you're using for the walls?
23) Have you seen signs of insects in the grow room? NO

Your strain:
24) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) ?? JACK
25) From seeds or clones? I GOT THEM AS CUTTINGS
26) Is this an autoflower strain Your Equipment:??

To be quite honest i dnt feel that confident in the ph kit , Would you advise me to get a digital tester? ,.. and what would be the best level of ph ??

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Originally Posted by jaydee84

YES provide as much info as possible this could be a number of thing
MOLYBDENUM def; or to much MANGANESE provide as much as possible
you will get better results more help easier diagnostics

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Hi Jaydee

Could you explain what molydenum and manganese are plz ??

get rid of superthrive for a while. your using too much.

yep for sure (MB) MOLYBDENUM Yellowing of middle leaves. Foliar feed with chemical fertilizer containing Mb

(MN)MANGANESEN yellow spots form on top leaves. Mn deficiency occurs when large amounts of Mg are present in the soil. Foliar feed with any chemical fertilizer containing Mn
this may not be problem sometimes this could just be over waterring
try get some pics from other angles as for ph you want guy called rusty he shoud be on later
digital tester is always better but im sure you can get a good enoth reading of of that
and if ph is out this could cause this

as far as PH goes i no that 6-7 is ok i think 6.5 is a good number

as for superthrive yea take it away for a bit not too clued up on superthrive i think its good for clones/cutting but small doses dont over do it
i could be wrong about what you would use superthrive for but i think it is

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Originally Posted by jaydee84

as for superthrive yea take it away for a bit not too clued up on superthrive i think its good for clones/cutting but small doses dont over do it
i could be wrong about what you would use superthrive for but i think it is

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I only started usein superthrive last night for the first time , havnt added anything apart from ph down :)

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Originally Posted by budbudding

I only started usein superthrive last night for the first time , havnt added anything apart from ph down :)

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oh ok...i take it ur 600watt is hps 2 foot is ok do you have a fan pointing over plants to take the heat away... do the leaves feel dried out?
you say 6.5 ph im sure this is ok is your water boiled or straight from tap

also you said.....quote>When i turn the lights off i turn everything off , i.e fan filtter fresh air ! Should i or should leave on ??

yes i would leave it on with my grow i used to turn fan of like what your doing was ok but then i done some xtra sealing around door's to cut down lite leak etc they started going bit droopy i was advised to keep them on 24/7 and yes it made the difference
if they are starving from fresh air it would make them sad droop etc

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Originally Posted by jaydee84

oh ok...i take it ur 600watt is hps 2 foot is ok do you have a fan pointing over plants to take the heat away... do the leaves feel dried out?
you say 6.5 ph im sure this is ok is your water boiled or straight from tap

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The water is straight from tap , my tap water is ph 7.1 , , my temp is 39.2 , and humid is 33% with lights on

And no my fan is well away from the plants at the top of the tent , and is not directed straight at the plants but across the ten , is this wrong ??

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Originally Posted by budbudding

The water is straight from tap , my tap water is ph 7.1 , , my temp is 39.2 , and humid is 33% with lights on

And no my fan is well away from the plants at the top of the tent , and is not directed straight at the plants but across the ten , is this wrong ??

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ok you should use boiled then cooled water
for starters....AND IS THAT 39,2C IF SO THIS IS TOO HOT should be around 25-27c roughly.....as for fan if you can get it so it directs the heat away from the plant

[quote=jaydee84]ok you should use boiled then cooled water
for starters....AND IS THAT 39,2C IF SO THIS IS TOO HOT should be around 25-27c roughly.....as for fan if you can get it so it directs the heat away from the plant[/QUOTE

38-39 Is the best i can get it ! , will this cause a problem in growing? or anything else for that matter?

I moved the fan and is aiming directly under the light now ! that should help a little with the heat once that settles i think ?,... i just went a bought myself a ph meter and a thermometer, so that should help me a bit?

Hydrometer? Does this read the humidity? if so which is good Day & Night?

And boiling the water , Doesnt that get rid of some stuff that plants need? if so i will have to replace??

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Originally Posted by jaydee84

ok you should use boiled then cooled water
for starters....AND IS THAT 39,2C IF SO THIS IS TOO HOT should be around 25-27c roughly.....as for fan if you can get it so it directs the heat away from the plant

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My mistake lol , temp is 28.8C and 29 RH GOOD ??

having it that hot would probly slow the growth down.. always use boiled then cooled water it is better loweres chlorine levels and takes out any bacteria you can still ph it down or up whatever but yea boil first you need to find a way to lower that heat some plants can take it others cant depending on your fan set up ive seen ppl put a bowl of ice water with salt init behind the fan the salt will super cool the water/ice so the air its blowing around will be slightly cooler not sure if you meter will do humidity
think you said 33%? thats not too bad me thinks you dont want it to humid otherwise root might set in

get your temps down start using boiled water this should sort your problems

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Originally Posted by budbudding

38-39 Is the best i can get it ! , will this cause a problem in growing? or anything else for that matter?

I moved the fan and is aiming directly under the light now ! that should help a little with the heat once that settles i think ?,... i just went a bought myself a ph meter and a thermometer, so that should help me a bit?

Hydrometer? Does this read the humidity? if so which is good Day & Night?

And boiling the water , Doesnt that get rid of some stuff that plants need? if so i will have to replace??

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Are you a joke or something?
You wrote "ON 79-84" before and now saying "38-39"
You wrote "humid is 33%" before and now asking "Hydrometer? Does this read the humidity?"

What exactly you're trying to do? If you really care about your plants first be serious. Pay your attention here. Think twice before you post. Give info as much as you can. Don't try to do things quickly. Spend 10 more minutes on writing each one of your posts. Sending quick replies doesn't help on your problem at all. Save other members time on reading and writing. Got it?
You are the one who have problems. If you don't take it serious no one else does. Having multiple accounts and sending same careless threads over and over again doesn't cure your plants.

Best thing for you to do, START READING!

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Originally Posted by budbudding

My mistake lol , temp is 28.8C and 29 RH GOOD ??

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ok that sounds better lol..you had me worried and its not even my grow

how ya doing tevfik m8ty...

its true when ever i get a chance like every night i read up on it even if i read it once already ill read it again try to download a growers guide or something similar all the knowledge you can get cram it in im sure this wont be your last grow education is the key

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Originally Posted by jaydee84

how ya doing tevfik m8ty...

its true when ever i get a chance like every night i read up on it even if i read it once already ill read it again try to download a growers guide or something similar all the knowledge you can get cram it in im sure this wont be your last grow education is the key

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I will defo try and read up on stuff i have learnd alot already from peeps, in the last few days! , We all have to start some where? so the more i learn the more somebody else is gonna benefit from one day :)

But i still havent found out whats wrong with my babys, :( and a still need to know what is the best RH is ??

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Originally Posted by jaydee84

ok that sounds better lol..you had me worried and its not even my grow

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Haha! Bless ya bruv!

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Originally Posted by tevfik

Are you a joke or something?
You wrote "ON 79-84" before and now saying "38-39"
You wrote "humid is 33%" before and now asking "Hydrometer? Does this read the humidity?"

What exactly you're trying to do? If you really care about your plants first be serious. Pay your attention here. Think twice before you post. Give info as much as you can. Don't try to do things quickly. Spend 10 more minutes on writing each one of your posts. Sending quick replies doesn't help on your problem at all. Save other members time on reading and writing. Got it?
You are the one who have problems. If you don't take it serious no one else does. Having multiple accounts and sending same careless threads over and over again doesn't cure your plants.

Best thing for you to do, START READING!

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Ive been reading for 4 days flat mate! ,. i didnt know fuckall b4 hand , i just bought that thermometer , and ive just found out i can change from c to f , I thought RH was a humidity reading no ??? i made a new account because i couldnt up load any picks !!!!

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Originally Posted by jaydee84

how ya doing tevfik m8ty...

its true when ever i get a chance like every night i read up on it even if i read it once already ill read it again try to download a growers guide or something similar all the knowledge you can get cram it in im sure this wont be your last grow education is the key

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Well fine m8
Reading is fine for sure and the best advice in this case. We're all learning.
Give a fish or teach fishing thing...

I'm sure its written somewhere what are the best humidity levels!

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Originally Posted by budbudding

I will defo try and read up on stuff i have learnd alot already from peeps, in the last few days! , We all have to start some where? so the more i learn the more somebody else is gonna benefit from one day :)

But i still havent found out whats wrong with my babys, :( and a still need to know what is the best RH is ??

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rh/humidity
as i said if your reading 33% that ok especially in flowering
start using boiled then cooled water get ph to bout 6.5 lots fresh air coming in
give it couple of days if no change use chemical fertilizer containing M it sounds bit like (MB) MOLYBDENUM def but you need to get every thing else corrected first.... temps,and the water is a defo in my opinion dont use water straight from tap

really hope this helps GooD Luck m8ty

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Originally Posted by budbudding

Ive been reading for 4 days flat mate! ,. i didnt know fuckall b4 hand , i just bought that thermometer , and ive just found out i can change from c to f , I thought RH was a humidity reading no ??? i made a new account because i couldnt up load any picks !!!!

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This is exactly what I mean. You're still trying to give quick answers. It's not my fault if you've been reading shit. From here most looks like you've been writing useless messages for last 4 days more than reading. Go and read here: Cannabis FAQs / FAQ , Recipes, Medical Marijuana
Come back after if you can't find your answers there.

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Originally Posted by tevfik

Well fine m8
Reading is fine for sure and the best advice in this case. We're all learning.
Give a fish or teach fishing thing...

I'm sure its written somewhere what are the best humidity levels!

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yea yea hows it go give a man a fish you feed him for one day teach a man to fish then he can bloody well feed him self somthink lyk that..sweet ppls

and budbudding it about trial and error if your not 100% sure what it could be

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Originally Posted by jaydee84

rh/humidity
as i said if your reading 33% that ok especially in flowering
start using boiled then cooled water get ph to bout 6.5 lots fresh air coming in
give it couple of days if no change use chemical fertilizer containing M it sounds bit like (MB) MOLYBDENUM def but you need to get every thing else corrected first.... temps,and the water is a defo in my opinion dont use water straight from tap

really hope this helps GooD Luck m8ty

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Jay thankyou very much buddy !! for the last few days ive been asked to post everything im doing then peeps would be able to tell me more!! , thats all ive been doing and getting no where!! , whese rusty? lol

jay thnx again pal ya a star !!, a little helping hand thats all i need , !!!

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Originally Posted by budbudding

Jay thankyou very much buddy !! for the last few days ive been asked to post everything im doing then peeps would be able to tell me more!! , thats all ive been doing and getting no where!! , whese rusty? lol

jay thnx again pal ya a star !!, a little helping hand thats all i need , !!!

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thats ok m8 only hopes it helps remember boil or even leave water in a jug of some sort for 20+hours then use the thing with water straight from tap it can cause nuit /ph lock out if the chlorine content is too high

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Originally Posted by jaydee84

thats ok m8 only hopes it helps remember boil or even leave water in a jug of some sort for 20+hours then use the thing with water straight from tap it can cause nuit /ph lock out if the chlorine content is too high

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I just did a ph test on a plant that has not grown but i have steel been feeding the same as the rest ...(every 3 day's water ph @ 6.5 ish ) so i watered it with water ph'ed at 6.3 , i took the last bit of water out of the run off a it ph' d at 5.2 , .. do you think this could be my prob??

p.s WAS THAT BETTER FOR YA TEVFIK ?? ;)

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Originally Posted by budbudding

I just did a ph test on a plant that has not grown but i have steel been feeding the same as the rest ...(every 3 day's water ph @ 6.5 ish ) so i watered it with water ph'ed at 6.3 , i took the last bit of water out of the run off a it ph' d at 5.2 , .. do you think this could be my prob??

p.s WAS THAT BETTER FOR YA TEVFIK ?? ;)

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This is just better than nothing for me.
Your soil has 5.5-6.5 pH buffer. You even managed to make it lower than that. Good job you did over there by trying to run before learning how to walk :thumbsup: Keep goin'

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Originally Posted by budbudding

I just did a ph test on a plant that has not grown but i have steel been feeding the same as the rest ...(every 3 day's water ph @ 6.5 ish ) so i watered it with water ph'ed at 6.3 , i took the last bit of water out of the run off a it ph' d at 5.2 , .. do you think this could be my prob??
;)

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might be so if your runoff is 5.2 you need to raise it x1 so the run off should read 6- -6.5 if PH problems do accure this would more than likely cause nuit/fert lock out where the plant is rejecting
where i live i dont know why but ive not had to ph the water i just bring them up with boiled/cooled water....this is not the case for every one.
i should get ph kits...i just find that when people bring there plant up on ph'ed water they incur problems when ph is slightly out i should really get test kit i just think untill i get a problem that indicates ph problem then i will most def i just fined brining them up with just water is fine
i could be wrong but not had any problems so far.....anyways so yea get the runoff as close to 6.5 as ya can

I've just gone to see how the babys are doing , and their looking bad , all the leaves are going dark green and they are not growing ! it looks like the outside of the leave a going darker first !!! , i had 1 plant that went totol dark green and it hasnt grow 1 bit in 4 day's, so plz what can i do ??

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Originally Posted by jaydee84

might be so if your runoff is 5.2 you need to raise it x1 so the run off should read 6- -6.5 if PH problems do accure this would more than likely cause nuit/fert lock out where the plant is rejecting
where i live i dont know why but ive not had to ph the water i just bring them up with boiled/cooled water....this is not the case for every one.
i should get ph kits...i just find that when people bring there plant up on ph'ed water they incur problems when ph is slightly out i should really get test kit i just think untill i get a problem that indicates ph problem then i will most def i just fined brining them up with just water is fine
i could be wrong but not had any problems so far.....anyways so yea get the runoff as close to 6.5 as ya can

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is it possible i might need this stuff???
Phosphorus (P) is necessary for photosynthesis and works as a catalyst for energy transfer within the plant. Phosphorus helps build strong roots and is vital for flower and seed production. Highest levels of phosphorus are used during germination, seedling growth and flowering. Deficiencies will show in older leaves first. Leaves turn deep green on a uniformly smaller, stunted plant. Leaves show brown or purple spots.
NOTE: Phosphorus flocculates when concentrated and combined with calcium

it almost sounds like Nutrient Disorder /lock out check out this web page ive found it has pictures of leaves with varios problems see if you can match it up...if it is a Nutrient Disorder it will probly need to be flushed

Marijuana Plants Problems - Yellow Leaves, brown spots, nutrient shortage etc.

get me some more pics asap of the changes some close ups different angles etc
let me know what you think after looking at site