Plants - Nute burn and No added nutes (form filled)

What is your experience level? first timer

Your Equipment:
1) Type and wattage of lights. CFL(six) 4 bright white, 4 soft white. 23w equivalent to 100w
Distance from tops? Approx 3inchds
.3) Reflector type?None
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? No air circulation in the go room to out of the grow room or vise-vera.
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?Fan circulating
6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 100w (6 cfls) =600w? ......time is 18/6 (on/off)

Your medium:
7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)"Miracle Grow Potting Soil"
.8) Size of container.Not sure (see pictures above for an idea)
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?
No Folded two paper towels to germinate, then put in soil.

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?[/COLOR]
Filtered water, put into a huge jug and left in my room. No way to check ph
11)Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...
No way to check ph
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)
No method to change ph
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
No nutes given yet!
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
About every 3 or so days. I check the soil with my finger from the top and from the drainage hole, if there is no moisture on my finger after touching soil I will water
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)
no.
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?
No way to check ph
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?
No way to check ph... runoff water has a yellow tinge, don't know why?
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?
Don't know what it is and don't do it.

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors?
Indoor
20) What size of closet, room or hut?
10ft wide, 4ft deep, 15ft high (appro. numbers)
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?
Lights on:27degrees C 80 degrees F ...ranged from (23-29 degrees C though)
Lights off:no sure
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?
Not that I know of. (knock-on-wood)

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)
Bubba Kush (Bubblegum x OGkush) 80/20 (indica/sativa), indica dominate
24) From seeds or clones?
Seeds
25) Is this an autoflower strain?
No, it's not.


There are signs of slight(knock-on-wood) nute burn on my plants. Is it from the Miracle Grow Soil?:( ... so is there a way to make there be less nutes in the soil? Or an alternative I can do?

Got some pics?

If it is nute burn then yes it's likely one of the "Time release" (the little opaque beads that look like plastic) balls popped right on a root. Which is part of the reason that MG is not recommended, since it's basically impossible to control nutes.

That's a huge space for a seedling, so the lack of a fresh air source isn't a problem yet,... but it will be later in the grow. Get that fixed ASAP.


Get an aquarium PH droper test kit,.... they're like $5 USD and will save your ass from PH lockouts. Then get PH UP or PH DOWN (which ever way you need to go) and get your PH to 6.0-6.5 for your inbound water.

If your PH is incorrect the plant won't be able to uptake nutes propperly causing all kinds of problems including the plant straight shitting the bed on you.

Get this lack of PH monitoring fixed IMMEDIATELY!

Good luck brother! :weedpoke:

I will get pics up a little later, sorry can't right now.
I am planning on getting some ph test strips online just for now because of my budget. Hopefully I can also get my hands on some of that ph up/down solutions :)

This miracle grow bag only said premium potting soil or something like that and I didn't find out until 2 weeks into veg that it had time release nutes in it( and yeppp your right, it's those clear, little opaque beads that look like plastic) has those :(

There we go!
Special Thanks to Rusty Trichome :thumbsup: for giving me instructions on how to get better/clearer pics :cool:
-That 4th pic looks HORRIBBLEEEE!!! I just noticed that today as I was taking the pictures (worries me:()

Some more pics :)

Can anyone confirm that it is in fact nute burn?
And does anyone have any idea's on how I can deal with this? (....I'm thinking about this but don't think a flush would do anything would it?) and doesn't flushing stress your plant (isn't it like overwatering?)

After looking at the pics you might have a slight nute burn going on, but that's not what your problem is. You need a way to check ingoing and runoff pH lvls. My guess is your soil pH is low which is starting throw the plant in lockout.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Yes it is nute burn. You see, every time you water this potting mix, it releases nutes....well too much for cannabis.....Find just a basic potting mix without all the nutes.

So what is my solution now?... do I take out this soil and change it?(How much would that stress the plant?) or what am I supposed to do?

Not sure if it's the best course of action with the time release soil but you can flush with PH'd water, 4-5x the volume of the container to strip some of the excess nutes out.

I'd just worry that it'll strip some of the needed nutes as well, and I'm not sure that a light feeding would be a good idea with the time release. Where's Rusty? he knows more about that soil than I do.

@canniwhatsis

That's what I was thinking. Or what would happen if I was to leave it as is?
And good question, where is Rusty :thumbsup: lol

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Originally Posted by poker2

@canniwhatsis

That's what I was thinking. Or what would happen if I was to leave it as is?
And good question, where is Rusty :thumbsup: lol

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if it is the soil nuit release change soil bro a re-pot would do it good, all this xtra nuit soils aint always that good man......sweet

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Originally Posted by poker2

@canniwhatsis

That's what I was thinking. Or what would happen if I was to leave it as is?
And good question, where is Rusty :thumbsup: lol

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They're not bad as you think (At least in picture I see healthy grows there). I would like to say "there is no problem at all" but since you believe there is, I don't want to disappoint you.
When they grow more they use nutrients more. Just watch if it get worse any (your nuteburn monster). As I remember you are on this subject more than a week already and I didn't see anything worse since.
How about a general view of your plants? From tops, from sides, shows all the plant in picture?

By the way, if anything kills your plants that will be your over love in the very first place :)

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Originally Posted by tevfik

How about a general view of your plants? From tops, from sides, shows all the plant in picture?

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Okay so if YOU don't really see anything then I think it's not that bad :)
Here are some of the pics you were looking for :thumbsup:
They are ALL SIDESWAYS!! (:( how do I fix that? or you guys have to roatate you head 90degrees ;))
....That's a 360 walk-around of my "girl?"

And some arial views :)

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Originally Posted by poker2

Okay so if YOU don't really see anything then I think it's not that bad :)
Here are some of the pics you were looking for :thumbsup:
They are ALL SIDESWAYS!! (:( how do I fix that? or you guys have to roatate you head 90degrees ;))
....That's a 360 walk-around of my "girl?"

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Don't take me as an authority.
For the pics, when you view them on your computer there must have some rotate buttons or menu with your viewer.
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She look healthy and very compact :thumbsup: Let her go.
And looks like re-potting is on the way. This pot is narrow at bottom. And looks like able to keep moisture on the edges no? If this is the clay thing you may have hard times with transplanting.
Choose something deep and wide. Not like a plastic coffee cup shape. More like a can shape. Square is better.

..Time to replant Already? It's been less than two weeks :O
Waaa, I shouldn't have gone the clay pot route. I had hard enough of a time getting my seedling out of a plastic party cup :( lol.
So I guess I'll re-pot in a week or so?..ANDDDDD SHOULD I re-pot in the same soill(Miracle Grow) or should I change to a different soil(different brand)

Oh, and the pictures show straight on my computer but sideways when I upload them :wtf:

I'd wait a week or 2 before re-potting that,.... I finally got around to up potting my garden,.... I had some clones that were nearly a foot tall sticking out of 4" square (.5L) pots! :eek: They were root bound and starting to show some stress, but none the less were otherwise thriving.

She's looking pretty good overall. Don't stress too much over her,... it's easy to kill these plants with TOO MUCH attention.


When you do repot the MG is fine since your already using it, but if you can, get some Fox Farms Ocean Forest.

Ok will do. Glad to hear your girls are doing well.
And no one within a 3 hours drive sells foxfarm near me.
-I'll wait until I have her sexed, then I'll go about transplanting again :)

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Originally Posted by poker2

-I'll wait until I have her sexed, then I'll go about transplanting again :)

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This is exactly what I do. Can be waste of soil and effort if turns out a male.