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Here is one major reason why we are fucked as a people if we have to live our lives on the reasoning of Antonin Scalia, and we know the rest of the Gang of Four will go along with his, crazy fucked up ideas about privacy and warrants. :wtf:
Justices To Pot Users: Be Careful When You Flush
man...it all started a few years ago; when you get in your car: stop and detain at will; was allowed. (even on the fucking interstates)Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
It's NEVER gonna get better...if someone kicks my front door in...I won't be surprised...
...disappointed, that I feel like a stranger in the land I was born.
I know how you feel. I just went to the post office, and a white unmarked LEO passed me going and coming back. Both times in the opposite direction as I was going. Don't these fucks have something better to do? I take it as subtle bullshit harassment. :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp
Land of the free MY ASS!:mad:
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
Land of the Free = 2 big joints + 2 Big Whoppers + beer + whiskey + tax....:thumbsup:...= big crash...:stoned:
So what happens if you're dropping a deuce when they come knocking and you flush before answering the door? Hope they like the evidence they hurry to save . . . [attachment=o263094]Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
:D
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Originally Posted by BlueBlazer
I have to admit, many, many years ago, as I heard the backdoor being broken down, and I was watching, encouraging something swirling in the bowl, acting like I was at the horse track.............the when the doorway filled with a uniform and a pistol pointed at me, and the question of what was flushed, and and my reply of shit..................:S2: C'est la vie!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol5:
That was totally different when the mess hall sergeant called base maintenance to come and retrieve what I may have flushed.........that time it was purported that they had recovered .0.05 grams of vegetable matter that was some how identified as marijuana. :D
Both resulted in stretches. :pimp:
From the LA Times.
Police can kick down doors in drug searches, some justices say
WASHINGTONâ?¦ Police officers who smell marijuana coming from an apartment can break down the door and burst in if they have reason to believe this evidence might be destroyed, several Supreme Court's justices suggested Wednesday.
In the past, the high court has said police usually cannot enter a home or apartment without a search warrant because of the 4th Amendment's ban on "unreasonable searches and seizures."
But the court's conservatives said during arguments in a drug case Wednesday they favored relaxing that rule when police say they have an urgent need to act fast. Police had banged on the apartment door of Hollis King in Lexington, Ky. about 10 p.m. five years ago after they detected the smell of marijuana. They broke in the door when they heard sounds inside and arrested King for marijuana and cocaine possession.
Last year, the Kentucky Supreme Court ruled this search unconstitutional, but the justices sounded as though a majority will reverse that ruling.
"Everything done here was perfectly lawful," commented Justice Antonin Scalia.
"There's nothing illegal about walking down the hall and knocking on somebody's door, and if, as a police officer, you say, 'I smell marijuana', and then your hear the flushing, there's probable cause," said Chief Justice John Roberts.
Several of the court's liberal justices, who grew up in apartments in New York City, expressed surprise.
If the court rules this way, "aren't we just simply saying they (police) can walk in whenever they smell marijuana without bothering with a warrant," asked Justice Sonia Sotomayor. "We start with the strong presumption that the 4th Amendment requires a search warrant," added Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Since the war on drugs began in the 1980s, the Supreme Court has steadily given police more leeway to search cars, travelers and baggage. But the justices have been reluctant to permit searches of homes without a warrant.
The key issue in Kentucky v. King is whether an "exigent" or emergency circumstance allows the police to enter a resident without a warrant. Obama administration lawyers joined the case on the side of the state's prosecutors.
The police who broke into the apartment "reasonably believed that there was destruction of evidence occurring inside," said Ann O'Connell, an assistant to the Solicitor General.
Ginsburg said it was unclear what prompted the police to act. "It was kind of vague. They heard movementâ?¦There was nothing about a toliet flushing."
"It's our position that the court should assume there was an exigency in this case," O'Connell replied.
Scalia said the police can't go wrong by knocking loudly on the door. "Criminals are stupid," he said, and they often cooperate with police when they are not required to do so. They might open the door and let officers inside, or if not, the police can break in.
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Just to add some more personal experience with cannabis and the police. On two occasions prior to 1980, I was burglarized, and on both occasions, I told the police that marijuana was taken. An oz both times beside the other normal valuables the thieves take. The cops didn't freak out, say under arrest or give me any other crap. I have to admit, at the time, one was my second cousin, and the other was a state trooper I was on a first name basis with. And this was after having done time for being an idiot in the early 70s and they both knew it. They took the report, investigated, found one thief who denied everything, but I never suffered any further bullshit.
That is a far, far cry from the way things are today. Cops weren't the predators then that they have become today because of the War on Drugs or really Marijuana. And people like Scalia are exactly what the Founders rebelled against. A cop kicking in a door because he smelled something, is no different then a British soldier kicking in a door looking for signs of rebellion.
And authority or that which claims to be authority wonders why I reject nearly everything they supposedly stand for. At the present time, I feel like I'm damn near under constant observation for what ever fucking reason and I have nothing to hide because I will put my shit on the street right here for all to see. This type of government intrusion without true due process and cause really pissed me off. :twocents:
If US pot smokers were as brave as Egyptians.....
Anyone heard from Psycho4bud?