Judge in Va. strikes down federal health care law - Yahoo! News
Hope and change:D
Obama should just go home and let clinton do the rest of his term like he does his press conferences. Loser.
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Judge in Va. strikes down federal health care law - Yahoo! News
Hope and change:D
Obama should just go home and let clinton do the rest of his term like he does his press conferences. Loser.
Could you believe that press conference? The sitting president... supposedly the most powerful person on the face of the earth, had to leave an active press conference because his wife was calling? :jawdropper:Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
This moment in history will go down as one of the weakest moments in the American Presidency and will highlight the incredible mistake the left wing press convinced the american public to make when they elected this inept and ineffective leader who can do nothing but make speech after speech, saying nothing and regurgitating tag lines and power phrases attributed to truly great leaders throughout our history. When I hear one of these speeches I can not help but remember that the sitting vice president was once caught doing the same exact thing... plagiarizing a well known speaker. It strikes me that they must really believe that we are stupid. :mad:
Emmie
Didn't suprise me even a little......this president is such an amateur its not even funny. He seriously looks like he has no freakin clue what to do next......duh.....lets bring in tired ass Bill Clinton.....gee....that'll work.Quote:
Originally Posted by emilya
It was but less than a year ago that the far,far,left kooks running Washington were MOCKING constitutional challenges to Obamacare as if they were somehow ABOVE the rest of society.
Example #1
The Constitutionality of Obamacare: â??Who Cares?â?? Part III : The Powers That Be
Who's laughing now. Me.
This will be moved to the Supreme Court now, or in January when the oposition officially takes control.....and will go down in FLAMES 5-4.
how odd...........its like "crickets" in here now;)
You in Missouri Emmi? I lived there for 2 years. Went to a Military School named Kemper Military School in Boonville, Missouri. 20 mins from Columbia.Quote:
Originally Posted by emilya
yeah... I'm a grad student in one of the major universities quite near there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
It is funny how quiet it got in here. I dare say some liberals are embarrassed, if not totally speechless. The truth does that to people sometimes. ;)
Emmie
Nice....congrats on the higher education. Im guessing you live in Columbia....cool little college city. Just a guess. Theres a thousand colleges in Mo.Quote:
Originally Posted by emilya
I like to think that I am living proof that you can be a toker and still have functioning brain cells. And just a guess is what it will remain, I was vague about the particular college for good reason. Just know that someday there is going to be a top economist out there who is a bit more enlightened than the rest! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
Emmie
Fair enough........best of luck in your studies girl, hope your Christmas break is relaxing and peaceful before ya get back at it next year.
he could just quit mid term and go moose hunting or something. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
I'm just kidding bro. Merry Christmas to all.
:noel: :areindeer:
The Palin Obama Moose Hunting trip on TLC.......oh.....and Kate with her 40 kids in tow. I doubt Obama could even load a weapon dude.....have ya seen him throw a baseball??Quote:
Originally Posted by boaz
YouTube - Obama throws like a girl
J-E-S-U-S.
Of course it's going to get struck down.
And once that happens, car insurance is next.
The federal government does not have the constitutional authority to force us to give our money to any specific industry.
car insurance is much different. you can opt out of car insurance simply by not owning a car or choosing to drive. Health care was proposed as a federal mandate. This is clearly outside the scope of the Federal Government as the constitution clearly states that all rights not specifically covered under the constitution are reserved for the states.Quote:
Originally Posted by khyberkitsune
Emmie
I'd suggest that some people read over the sticky in this forum.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
"car insurance is much different."
No, it is not. The same principle applies - the government is forcing you to give money to an industry that has done nothing to earn it, and in fact has a history of trying to deny proper claims.
It is a money grab. That is all that this is. The Commerce Clause has been misappropriated and if you keep that sort of 'it's different' mentality, pretty soon you're going to be forced to buy things you don't ever use in life because the government says you're required to.
There is nothing different, at all. This is the government saying "Give your money to this industry or else."
Soon enough you're going to have to have COMPUTER INSURANCE if you own a computer. That bill got struck down last year but I hear it's coming back.
yeah, I gotta agree. I think the requirement for car insurance is state law, not federal law.Quote:
Originally Posted by emilya
sorry, dude, I started that one I'm afraid. just a friendly jab at IB. It just kinda cracks me up that I voted for Mama Bear for VP and IB voted for Barry but now we both seem to be suffering from buyer's remorse. :jointsmile: her show is kinda entertaining, tho. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
We need the god dang PUBLIC OPTION! Obama should have stood his ground on that one.
Instead, we're going to continue forking over trillions towards the military-industrial complex and their imperialistic wars!
War is a racket. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.
- Smedley Butler
I have an MS and BA from top schools. I work at the top of my field. I've been a toker since 8th grade, although I've slowed down in my middle age to be sure. It's all about hard work, discipline, and good early childhood education. Smoking has nothing to do with it unless you allow it to become a distraction.Quote:
Originally Posted by emilya
Silence has more to do with my work schedule than anything else. I travel frequently, often overseas. When I am here I prefer the other forums where I can actually learn something. The politics threads are just for fun if I have time.
I thought this thread was heading in the right direction after the sticky update. What's with the backsliding Pyscho4bud?
Well, there are 12 posts deleted "so far" and I let a bit slide because of a new member getting aquainted with other members here. Gotta let it be a bit social just as long as it stays civil.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigsby
Like I stated in that sticky though; IF the same name(s) keep on coming up for deleted threads, I'll just take that as a sign that they don't care much about my time spent on this board so I'll "delete" my problem(s) as to save my precious time for other matters. :bnd2:
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
P.S. A safe and happy holidays to ALL!!!:madnoel:
:thumbsup:Quote:
Hudson sided with Virginia Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli, who argued the mandate overstepped the bounds of the Constitution.
"The ruling is extremely positive for anyone who believes in the system of Federalism created by our founding fathers," Cuccinelli said. "It underscores that the Constitution's limitations on federal power really do mean something."
The terrible tragedy in Arizona has postponed the repeal vote.......and rightfully so. Prayers for all killed and injured.
amen.
How about this? If you don't want to buy health insurance (even though if you're poor it it's payed for) you don't have to. But if you get in a car wreck, sorry better have cash or you set on the sidewalk outside the emergency room and bleed to death. Why should you be able to not pay, then expect to get treated anyway? You got greedy, gambled, lost. One could argue your removal from the gene pool serves the common good. But given the whole country to shop for judges you can find one to rule anything you want. It will be overturned on appeal and everyone knows it.
Looks like the Virginia Supreme Court is not alone in striking down the ObamaCare mandate. The Florida Supreme Court has now followed suit:
Florida Judge Rules Obamacare to be Unconstitutional - On to Supreme Court? | Texas GOP Vote
And 26 other states have entered the fray. Hopefully, they will strike down the mandate as well. :thumbsup:
I like to think that we can follow the constitution and yet still remain compassionate. I would not be for allowing someone to bleed to death in sight of a hospital... that would just be wrong. Not just that, but what about the unconscious victim who shows up with no proof of insurance? I do think though that after stabilizing someone, it is time to start looking at who is going to pay. If they can't pay... then they shouldn't get more than basic services. I'm sorry... Darwin had it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by andruejaysin
This is a good sign. The constitution is starting to win out over this insane liberal led excursion to the brink of socialism that we have been on lately. It won't take long now to get a groundswell started with more state courts weighing in and this will certainly be in the supreme court very soon. I also think that it will be declared unconstitutional and my bet is 6-3. I think a couple of the justices are going to have quite a hard time with this. :stupid:It is going to be a good show and I am here for the ride!Quote:
Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
Emmie
^ yeah, me too, this is interesting to watch irrespective of how you may feel about the health care issue. to me, its just interesting to watch the machinery in action, seeing if it works, to see if the Constitution is still the law of the land and its built in limits of the federal gov't are upheld.
for those keeping score at home :jointsmile: its two judges overturning it and two judges ruling its okay. definitely going to the supremes, O'Reilly is predicting 5 to 4 vote to overturn it.
I think Its gonna fail, They were Just trying to push limits...They will spread their commie crap hear eventually...but they have to acklimate us to it first..