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I have 10 plants going right now, all females, and the day before i put them on a 12/12 cycle, i cut 12 clones. Im using "rootech" cloning gel. it says to dip the cutting in the gel, then plant it. but when i dip the cutting in gel, and plant it, it dies within 5 hours. What am i doing wrong?
Dies or wilts? Huge difference. I have yet to see any clone or plant die in 5 hours unless completely left out of water / cloning medium. Did you cut the stem at a 45 degree angle before applying the rooting gel? Do you have the clones under a dome for humidity? Did you cut the leaves in 1/2 so their is less surface area for respiration? You need to provide much more information and perhaps some pictures if you would like precise help.
GTD
Maybe an embolisim or not misting? I agree with Green...:thumbsup:
I never dip mine in the gel. I take some out and put it on aluminum foil and then I can coat the stem by rolling it around in the gel. I also use round rock wool plugs that are split so you can position your cutting without losing the gel cramming it down a hole!!! Then use twist ties or 1" rubber bands to keep the plug closed. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by bingotoad
Different strokes, for different folks. :D
Or better yet, do it the old fashion (ghetto) way our grandparents did it. Take a clipping (clone) stick it in a glass of water deep enough to cover 1/2 the stem. Cut the lower leaves off so they do not sit in the water. In a couple weeks, presto magic....roots. This cloning gel / power and rockwool era is somewhat new age! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
They wilt, they dont die. Sorry. I just recut them on a 45 degree angle and cut the leaves in half. They are not under any cloning dome or anything.
I have an extra 100w fluorescent light that they are under. The light is about 8 inches away from the clones, but it isnt that hot.
I hope that helps, i dont know what else to do!
:thumbsup: I agree GTD. I have cloned this way quite a few times when in a pinch and it works fantastically! Of course, you have to be a bit more patient as it takes longer but the results are the same. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenThumbDoc
A humidity dome will make a HUGE difference on the droop. Within 24 hours they will perk back up if stuck in one. You can make one out of several things. Cardboard box with no top, use plastic wrap to cover it. Or, take a huge zip lock baggy, stick a clone or 2 in each one on a plate and seal it. You need to get the humidity up for the clones since they cannot respirate on their own not having roots to replace the water loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingotoad
Agreed you MUST have the humidity dome. NO wonder!!! I suggest you get a seedling heater $20-30, does wonders with the closed dome, real sweatbox.
:thumbsup: Great advice. What has worked well for me in the past is my Therma Moist Heating Pad I use for my back. It has an outer cover that draws in the air's humidity and retains it. As the heating pad warms the moisture is released.Quote:
Originally Posted by WashougalWonder
I've never used a humidity dome. I've got a pretty set 14 day cloning cycle - cut off the plant, cut again underwater at a 45 degree angle, dip in rooting powder, plug into 5.8-soaked rockwool, keep the tray filled with 1/2" of water, mist every other day.
I don't even cut the leaf tips.
Yea, Kybers method times 2....gotta make the cut underwater so no air gets to it...I cut from a mother and throw cutting right away into a shallow tray of tepid ph'd water making sure the cut goes under and stays there until I have all 10 or 15 cut, then do the dipping (I use a powder) and straight into very moist soil seedling pots, pre-prepared with moist soil and a pencil hole. It goes very fast with some practice and, if the dog would leave them alone, 100% success. Oh, and I don't mist or dome them, but set them on something warm...top of my fridge works perfectly with a small desk lamp n 23w cfl for a couple weeks or I see roots, whichever comes first. Don't give up, just keep trying and you'll get it!:D
I used to do the 2nd cut under water then dip into a small container of gel before inserting into a 2nd hole poked in a rapid rooter plug with a bamboo skewer. 99% success this way.
Now i've started scraping the stem, then rolling it in a small puddle of gel, THEN do the 2nd cut while still in the puddle of gel before stuffing into the plugs.
The last run had one with roots sticking out of the plug in just 4 days!!! :eek: It was a fluke, as the rest haven't done it yet after 7, but none the less WOW!!! That girl wants to grow!!!!!
As for the rest of them, it's looking like it will eventually be 100% rooting. ;)
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I use a humidity dome, and small heating pad as well. The dome has been there from the begining, the pad is a recent addition
I prepare my medium - currently using rockwool and trying rapid rooters - I wet my rockwool cubes in chlorinated water and put the hole in (I set them upside down). I cut at angle, dip, scrape, and insert into the medium, just about that fast too. One at a time.
Depending on how old my dip is I get up to 100%....when takes get slow I toss the dip and get a new one.