I have a plant that was grown from a femmed seed. It has seen alot of stress and appears to be male.
My question is if I save the male for pollen, would the resulting generation be prone to hermi?
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I have a plant that was grown from a femmed seed. It has seen alot of stress and appears to be male.
My question is if I save the male for pollen, would the resulting generation be prone to hermi?
probly. breaders kill all hermies only viable males are supposed to be used.
Thanks for the reply. :jointsmile:
I thought it might be a problem, but wanted to make sure.
I will just kill it, and save myself some headaches down the road.
If you are breeding strictly for seeds or crossing for new strains, I would totally agree with this. However, if you are wanting femmed seeds, then using the pollen from a female plant (that has sprouted naners) on another "unique" female is how it is done. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by MadSativa
GTD
not entirerly, it has to be under certain condittions, if it is a genetic hermi, then theri is a high chance it will pass those traits on to its off spring.
From my reading this is generally acceptable practice. Many growers will stress a female into hermie simply to produce pollen for cross breading. With a stable strain it should be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenThumbDoc
I have decided to take some cuttings from it to clone, and maybe make a bonsai father.
I have not decided yet whether or not I'm going to use it's pollen, but this way I'll still have the option.
Plus this will give me some cloning and bonsai practice. :jointsmile:
My concern is that it's previous "father" was stressed to hermi. So now it will have at least two generations of hermi's back to back.
Wouldn't this make the resulting generation more prone to hermi?
In case anyone was interested this strain is LSD from Barney's Farm, purchased from Attitude.
I would think it would be similar to femming a femed plant for seeds, the seeds can start to take on the hermi aspect.
Actually, reading what I just posted, it's EXACTLY what your doing. Taking a feminized seed, then stress fagging it to switch genders.
I wouldn't trust the pollen to not produce hermi seeds. But you might get lucky.
That's what logic would suggest. However, if you read up you will find a number of growers here that swear by this practice. Hold on. I'll dig out some threads...Quote:
Originally Posted by canniwhatsis
Not trying to start a shit storm, If the strain is stable enough I don't think 2nd or 3rd generation Stress Fagged plants would produce much of a problem seed batch, but if it's already unstable, I'd think it would be bad news.
I have my questions about my "Purple Berry" Seeds :wtf: (hermi GDP pollenated 6 flowers on my BlueBerry) I haven't cracked any of them yet.
I know Canni, I keep going back and forth on this subject myself.
And again, logic bares this out. If you are going to use a hermied female you want to induce the hermie as opposed to a natural hermie, which would be the result of unstable genetics. There are two ways to induce a hermie - light/heat stress during flower or by feeding it h2o with aspirin.
There is a huge dif in a hermie and a femm.
The hermie has both male and female genectics
The femm has only female genectics. This is why they can only be female seeds. Breeders do not use hermies for anything because it is past down.
Think of a Hermie as an inbreed North Georgia Squidbilly. Your going to get something but most likely it will be an abomanation. LOL
In the words of Early Kyler " it's time to take out the trash "
:S2: Yeah those squidbillys can be fun at first, but then...........:wtf:
:hippy:
bigsby,
I was wondering if you found those old threads you mentioned, or if you could suggest some "name tags" of the threads. So I could do a search to try and find these. :thumbsup:
Rusty Trichome has written about this quite a bit. The guy has crazy growing knowledge to be sure. See these threads:Quote:
Originally Posted by tikiroom
http://boards.cannabis.com/advanced-...llen-life.html
http://boards.cannabis.com/advanced-...own-seeds.html
http://boards.cannabis.com/advanced-...ale-seeds.html
Thanks for the links! Now I have some reading ahead of me. :jointsmile:
http://boards.cannabis.com/advanced-...ale-seeds.html
yeah that s the read i recomend looking at, getting fem seeds is not getting hermies to pollenate. youhave to use the same genetics and do not stress the plant is the important thing. you will need a clones and 2 grows going on at the same time in differant stages using the same clones.