ripac is to help with.......

what is ripac 's help that they offer patients ?

im very confused.

why do they need donations ?

why is the grow classes separate from the regular patient class ?
and also why is there a charge for the class's ?
if you ask for donations, wouldnt that suggest that the donations
would cover the informing the patient of what a patient needs to know ?
otherwise this brings me back to my original question, which is
what is ripac 's help that they offer patients ?

i didnt get any help, none what so ever all the rumors have been true
and i couldnt believe it if i hadnt went to experience it myself.

extremely confused,maybe someone can fill me in, thanks

12 plants at harvest = no less than 12 oz of bud even if you suck
most likely it will be
4oz per plant = 48 oz per harvest. every 3 months
= 192 oz's
even divided by 52 weeks thats 3.7 oz per week
REALLY YOUR LIVING THAT GOOD RIPAC

where exactly is everyones EXTRA medicine going ?
because your only allowed 2.5oz,still really confused.

WHERE IS ALL THE EXTRA MEDICINE GOING
is this program just more proof that this program is creating drug dealers
and not friends and peace.

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Originally Posted by ncgysfnshlst

12 plants at harvest = no less than 12 oz of bud even if you suck
most likely it will be
4oz per plant = 48 oz per harvest. every 3 months
= 192 oz's
even divided by 52 weeks thats 3.7 oz per week
REALLY YOUR LIVING THAT GOOD RIPAC

where exactly is everyones EXTRA medicine going ?
because your only allowed 2.5oz,still really confused.

WHERE IS ALL THE EXTRA MEDICINE GOING
is this program just more proof that this program is creating drug dealers
and not friends and peace.

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Read on find out.Dont assume the program makes "DRUGDEALERS".NO You must get yourself in with the right people.ripac IS FOR INFO NOT HANDOUTS OR SPOON FED INFO..wHY DOES A CHURCH ASK FOR donations?yOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW AND LOOK FOR THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO GET THAT INFO FROM.JUST MY 2 CENTS..WE ARE NOT DRUG DEALERS!! are YOU a DRUG USER OR ABUSER?

Instead of talking smack about an organization dedicated to helping out sick, ill or uncomfortable people, why don't you use your incredible math and gardening skills and partner up with the folks at RIPAC or start your own organization since you know exactly what is needed. Drug dealers? Wow!! You have completely missed the boat.

2 RESPONSES, THIS TRUELLY IS A BLESSED DAY ,WOW!

still however no answer to what does ripac do for patients
and why do they need everyones financial support
and why are the classes a seperate fee ?

people, us patients want to know

is this a dark secret cult with no answers to simple questions.
pssst, its legal for us!! relax and open up and take the control away
or the card away from caregivers

time to rejoice we made it to the pinacle
after all the harrasssing from officers and arrests and demeaning
treatment for the past 40 years
IT SOMEHOW FEELS LIKE I MADE IT TO HELLS GATE
"YEA IM HERE, DO I WANT TO BE"

please stop defending them and let them answer for themselves ok .
please

thnks

Ripac wont answer here im sure..IF you dont trust or care for there services dont use em.

im very confused.

why do they need donations ?
All orgs need donations. some get federal help some can only survie on donations. Website cost, staff, paper and a printing machine you rent internet service. The list can go on for what donations help pay for!

why is the grow classes separate from the regular patient class ?
and also why is there a charge for the class's ?
It's not a charge, a donation and people that can't afford the 50 for two days will still get in. But the class is geared to the people that are not computer savey or have alot of money to spend on all the grow gear. This class offers a DIY mentality. Orientaions are seperate from the horticulture class that would be way to much info for sick people to digest in one sit in. yikes! can you sit for a 6,7 hour lecture? Most sick people I see grumble after a hour.

if you ask for donations, wouldnt that suggest that the donations
would cover the informing the patient of what a patient needs to know ?
otherwise this brings me back to my original question, which is
what is ripac 's help that they offer patients ?

What I get out of ripac is a place to meet like minded people, share information and learn from others. Make friends, make a community, help it grow. The medical cannabis program is just protection for use, not a right to a endless supply of cannabis. This isnt big pharm ya know;)

i didnt get any help, none what so ever all the rumors have been true
and i couldnt believe it if i hadnt went to experience it myself.
you failed to say what you need help with here so sorry can't help ya on that.

extremely confused,maybe someone can fill me in, thanks

hope I helped.
Keith

keith, much appreciated my friend
good answers

but the grow class to help under financed peopled
is cool but they still need to buy 500 dollars of equipment, minimum.
SO RIPAC HAS TO BE FREE WITH ALL THE OTHER EXPENSES NEEDED

the big question is
IS JOANNE IN CHARGE OF THE RIPAC ?
AND IF NOT WHO, I AM GOING TO CONTACT THEM AND STRAIGHTEN HER OUT.

JOANNE STATED SHE IS NOT A PATIENT AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD WITH HER.

WHY WOULD SHE LIE
ILL TELL YOU WHY
WHEN I ASKED ABOUT GIFTING, SHE WAS MORE THAN HAPPY TO EXPLAIN ITS LEGALITY AND GOOD INTENTIONS OF SAID TERM.
BUT WHEN I FOLLOWED UP WITH THE NEXT QUESTION
ARE YOU A PATIENT, SHE SAID " UMMM, I DONT FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO TELL YOU....... OH WAIT YOU GUYS DID SHOW ME YOUR PATIENT CARDS......
UMMM NO, NO IM NOT A PATIENT .....WTF?????????
FIRST WHY SO DEFENSIVE IF THE ANSWER IS NO
SECOND WHY LIE ABOUT BEING A PATIENT
THIRD, TO AVOID GIFTING TO A NEW PATIENT LOOKING FOR A WAY IN
OFF THE STREETS, SHE LIES AND STATES SHES NOT A PATIENT.
SAD
RIPAC IS FOR PATIENTS OR ................
BIG MONEY AND MIND CONTROL ?

THANKS

hey there, I would def contact JoAnne with thoses questions I can't help ya there. But I can explain a bit about the grow class. Yes I suggest patients that are just staring to grow not to spend so much my original goal was $420 but with extra costs on misc stuff a saftey net of 500 should do. Now it's not buying all that stuff right off the bat. But to think of buying a small veg light first even 4 foot floro work shop lights from Job Lot would work for vegging plants. Then upgrade as you go. So really 20 bucks could start someone growing a couple vegging plants.

i just wish joanne would stop collecting info for the
STATE POLICE registry.

maybe, just maybe, being that she works for a PATIENT CLUB
do something for the patients
like a registry of other patients who have extra medicine
to give to brand new patients until we get going on our own growing

if she was caught gifting to every patient, nothing would happen

so she must be selling it on the black market instead. thats why she wont gift, so she doesnt get accused of selling it to us ??

i am in the next day or 2 going to attach the form she asked me to fill out at my meeting in the ripac office.
you all are going to shit your pants
then you will believe me, that its just a game to register us all to the popos
I AGREE THAT CAREGIVERS SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO REGISTER
TO MINIMIZE ILLEGAL SALES OF MEDICINE.
so im always thinking logically.
i promise to upload that form soon

RIPAC is a hoax.. a bunch of smoke and mirrors..

some of you guy(s) really need to wisen up...RIPAC, NORML, MMP and others are organizations dedicated to MMJ. If you don't like it, don't join..... I am not a member but if someday I decide to I would not put my foot in my mouth before I actually gave it a chance. Some people think that their MMJ card seperates them from the rest of the marijuana enthusiasts and gives them entitlement to free marijuana???? Where did this view come from? Certainly not from the many states with legal dispensaries and collectives, they actually charge...some upwards of 65 an 8th...and can you believe patients actually go there to buy their medicine. I feel that before anyone bitches or gripes about Organizations, Caregivers or dispensaries they should try growing a few successful crops themselves and fully understand what love, care and time goes into growing the sacred herb.

I am not going to continualy feed into threads that are nonsense like this one but it was annoying to see those who have no idea what the hell they are talking about. If one opens their ears and closes their mouths they may hear the answer they seek...

Finally one parting statement.....be grateful for what you have!

oldhead great words!

been busy in the garden

did you ask me something oldhead ?

12 plants and my electric only went up 120 dollars
non stop smoking
what the hell are you talking about that the prices are fair out there
you should be ashamed of yourself saying such stupid remarks

thanks

I do not waste my time with negative people like yourself.....please do not address me again until you can act like an adult...thank you and good wishes

shitty outlook ....

address the truth

WHY DO YOU THINK WEED SHOULD BE AT SUCH HIGH PRICES
WHEN ITS NOW LEGAL ?

please explain your reasons to justify an ounce of legal weed
for more than 50 dollars ?

please explain,
and mind you
THE WORLD IS WATCHING US.

all of you are the ones acting like children, grow up please
stop being greedy, cmon
pretty soon you wont be cool and the only one
you will be remembered the person that took advantage of the moment and people, you will be a nobody with no friends
well its the time for us all to cut the crap
if the legislative powers , and the cops are taking a bow
why are we doing this to each other ?
its down right embarrassing

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Originally Posted by ncgysfnshlst

address the truth

WHY DO YOU THINK WEED SHOULD BE AT SUCH HIGH PRICES
WHEN ITS NOW LEGAL ?

please explain your reasons to justify an ounce of legal weed
for more than 50 dollars ?

please explain,
and mind you
THE WORLD IS WATCHING US.

all of you are the ones acting like children, grow up please
stop being greedy, cmon
pretty soon you wont be cool and the only one
you will be remembered the person that took advantage of the moment and people, you will be a nobody with no friends
well its the time for us all to cut the crap
if the legislative powers , and the cops are taking a bow
why are we doing this to each other ?
its down right embarrassing

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$50 an ounce???? I assuming you've grown indoors before, right? The amount of time spent on caring for the plant, quality seeds and decent equipement make this figure damn near impossible! Now, an outdoor crop maybe but growing 12 to 24 plants in a perpetual system is a part to full time job.

You don't work for free do you? To do it right with an indoor grow is not easy. Granted it's a weed, but we are cultivating that "weed" to maximum potency which takes a lot of trial and error which cost $$$$$. Personally, I believe that MM should be paid for on a sliding scale to make it cost effective compared to how much a patient takes home$$$. The most it shoud ever be is 200 for the very best!!! And, of course, it should still be dependant upon your income and should come down in price every year until it levels out a price more reasonable 100 to 150.

As far as RIPAC is concerned, just like all businesses, the opportunity for abuse is common so I wouldn't be surprised. Ironically, all non-profits need income, that is a fact of life. Considering it is illegal on the federal level, good luck getting a federal grant...lol.

It is still illegal boys and gilrs, therefore, still a risk. Do you know any free lawyers if you get busted by the DEA or feds??? Again, doubt it.

It is a business Einstien!!!! Run it like one, anticipate future costs, add current cost, plan for future expasion and use that figure to determine your selling price.

Granted, most CG's have not even thought of this formula so I'm not saying you are an idiot! It's that you can't just slap a happy go lucky price on a product. Personally, I forsee the price going down to 50 an oz. in many years. The only way that is going to happen is by going NP first so you can control the market rate. RI actually has the best formula so far so we won't fall under the Cali. guidlines...65 an 1/8 is NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!:(

Yes the system is frustraiting, it's called growing pains! So, for now, it is what it is. Unless your willing to grow top quality med's and sell them for 50 an oz only then all the power to ya! I could use another CG at those prices...lol

PS... No need to be a potty mouth or abrassive:thumbsup:

Now WAKE up! Until the STATE subsidizes MMJ to legal patients as a fundamental right to good health under the contitution then we may see that dramitic shift in cost. I am not arguing there arent caregivers giving ounces to their patients for 50 bucks and ounce....wonder how many ounce those 5 patients really take (..and where does the rest go?) and how do you pay you electric, water, rent/lease, nutrient, medium, and any other costs you may incure during the crop. What happens if you have health issues with your plants and they aren't top notch...do you just pass it on because its inferior but hey it's only 50 an ounce...sounds like some 80's mexicani sh*t to me.

Guys that post about prices like that are dreamers who in reality have a 250 hps and a calculater dreaming of what they could harvest if they had "this" or "that". Obviously you have never grown on a large scale or you wouldn't even say the things you do. Instead of being the cool "grower" throw it aside and learn from others. I know this was all wasted typing but I have trolled these threads a long time now without saying much at all and the pathtetic stuff I have been reading, insults and attacks towards people and not things actually doing harm is insanity. I will probably be banned after these few posts but it needed to be said.




STOP WORKING AGAINST AND START WORKING WITH EACH OTHER

ALWAYS LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVE AGENDAS

you guys pointing the finger at the guy trying to apply the NEW WORLD prices to all.
and im somehow ludracris ??

join against the low down dirty insolent ones.
charging money for them in the first place!!

ive grown longer than any one on this site
far before any license granted permission for any medical marijuana patient.
k kids

listen up and catch up.
frown upon the ones chaging an arm and a leg
and not the good guy trying to show the truth, and minimize the funds to unscrupulous jerks.
how is it hard to say , this wacko(me) has a point.
just talk down to me and tell me what nasa uses to grow plutonium on mars, doesnt have anything to do with the price of eggs.

come down to earth, plant a seed let it veg, flower it done
i have noticed a lot of fake help out there which includes the following
method:
jake gives tony 5 cuttings not even rooted 2 weeks till they root roughly.
than to bring to suffient height to flower through a veg period will be 2.5 months
roughly 3 months time
ok, so jake has not thelped you at all, but rather added you to his roster of people trusting him and buying an ounce every other week for 300, 2 a month
so 2 * 3 = 6 * 300 = 1800
so who helped who ??????
see the game now.
the misinformation, holding you back, telling you its OH SO TOUGH to grow it.
bull, its a weed and needs as little care as a plant on the fridge door.

dont play this protect the hive and come down on me
dont play this be quiet and let me become a millionare, before they notice stuff either
dont play with a good person, questioning things is why we are a free country. doesnt prove im bad.
keep believing these guys need 1000 dollars in nutes a month
keep believing they will care if you dont have enough money to buy any.

keep the negative views regarding this program ongoing, go ahead.