Hey guys I am thinking of starting a sog setup and I really need sum advice on which strain to go for. I have never thought of doing this sort of grow before and I am quite intrigued by the whole thing so any advice would be more than welcome.
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Hey guys I am thinking of starting a sog setup and I really need sum advice on which strain to go for. I have never thought of doing this sort of grow before and I am quite intrigued by the whole thing so any advice would be more than welcome.
There has got to be someone out there who uses this method, please help as I have only ever used a couple of different strains and really need some advice.
alright bro im only after finishing my s,o,g my first was a,m,s and white widow and it came out alright. this other one i just finish because i knew abit more came out way better and that was a,m,s and big bang.But any way i was told the next time i should go with (chronic n,y,c,d or k,2) any one of them would love the s,o,g.[align=left] But i,m not at this long so you might be better off going with some one else on this.good luck any way and good growing:D [/align]
Thanks mate am just trying to get as much info on it as possible to make the right choice so any advice is good for me.
Alright Willy181
As i said i'm not at this that long myself only 2 grow's
under my belt but i'm ready to go round 3 with the N Y C D. I do the s,o.g because i think it's the best way to get a good crop the fastest.
I was trying to get GREEN HOUSE SEED TRAIN WRECK with no luck so i went
with WEED SEED N Y C D and now i have them and TRAIN WRECK is
back all over the net. Getting them next there the shit any way hope you get
what your looking for bro:rastasmoke:
Cheers mate av never heard of train wreck but I will look into it. I have heard that white rhino is good for it aswell.
Alright willy181
Ya bro as far as i know most if not all white strain's
are good for s,o,g :thumbsup:
diesel from g-13 labs seems like it would be a good choice. it doesn't seem to stretch hardly at all once flipped to bloom.
Thanks guys this is all good.
Nirvana White Rhino...it loves to branch out...:thumbsup:
Photo: by 'skeet
Dutch Pimp
how much did you yield of that s,r,o,g pic:pimp:
I don't know...that grow was done by ...elskeetro...:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by deeproots
strains like northernlights do well and Orangebud skunk.
Know your strains and your room. Sea of green can be very hard to run out of one small room unless you have individuals buckets or two separate systems. Other wise it's a bitch to flush at the end.
Right now we have the orangebud and papaya ready in a week and a couple northernlights ready in 5 weeks. One of the hardest parts is to have clones vegged and ready to go once a month and remember the harvest is only half your room.
Depending on your light will depend on how well different types of plants can hang together well. We run a 1000 hps and one plant can get 5 feet while the 1 foot northernlights hangs out and gets enough light.
If you want I can take some pic's. I got papaya over 5 feet and looks like some nice weight too.
I would love to see some picks of your setup up mate if possible.
I'll get some tomarrow the lights just went off for 12. It's a small room 4x5x8 feet. We used to have 6 drip systems with 6 sites each in 10 gallon totes and no room to get in and check them and take care of them. Kept them small because of room. Now there's only 4 sometimes 5 buckets and alittle room to take care of them. Cyano-bacteria got the drip systems so we changed to DWC. A lot less work and the larger plants I think give a better harvest as well.
The real magic happens in the mother room. Cloning and vegging there will save lots of time in turning over a harvest once a month. Being as we are so small we are giving thought to going back to harvesting the whole room every 2 months and concentrating on the mother vegg room to improve harvest.
Remember you can get .5 grams per watt of light. So if you harvest once a month it is only half the room. So insted off 500 grams for a 1000 hps in two months thats 250 a month if you do well. That's enough for me two cancer patients and a diabetic most of the time but can be a strain if anything goes wrong.
Ramblin on cause I just had my wake and bake with some s.a.g.e. and papaya. save the northerlight for the evening or you get nothing done all day.
Pic's tomarrow.
Ha ha no probs mate cant wait to see it.
Wake and bake everybody. So here's the smallest sea of green you will ever see. To the right down low northernlights. To the left orangebud skunk and in the middle papaya. Papaya can get out of control and does wellwith bushmaster along with sage. the orange bud and northern don't need it.
Second one is looking up from the small northern.
third is a good shot because I can't get far enough away to get it all in but that's most of it.
the other two well they speak for themselves. All this is run on GH 3 part nutes and calmag. We have been testing a product called flower dragon that was used on the papaya and orange bud. If you only get one add on this is it. It will pack some weight on.
The papaya is in it's last week with the orangebud about a week behind but we are letting the papaya go an extra week as my diabetises friend just had major knee operation and needs something to put him on the couch and out. This will do it.
Hope you like the pic's. I will say that i don't think this is possible with less than a 1000 hps and when the big one comes out the light comes down for the small ones for 4 weeks so one way or the other they get good light in the end. If we have a strain the streches we put the up on an extra bucket to get closer.
Oh, forgot.
Pay no attention to the man in the pics. He is the only person on earth that I trust to watch my stuff.
Remember stoners smoke and Wizards grow.
not sure about the SOG part though.:thumbsup:
Yeah nice plants mate but I thought a sog was more like this.
He did say he was baked... :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by willy181
Confused ?
Perpetual harvest.
A Sea of Green is when you have your room split into half and a harvest every month or even split into 2 weeks. It is ment to give you a harvest at shorter intervels with one room rather than waiting 2 to 3 months to harvest.
We are not in a friendly place and large grows do not go undetected here. One day perhaps but not now.
Sounds like you were looking for just large comercial grows. sorry.
Sorry mate I thought the sea of green was all the plants crammed in together at about the same height and you concentrate on the cola. Is this wrong because this is the system I was going to use? :confused:
What? No that's just wrong. Perpetual harvest is a method of crop rotation so that you have a harvest ready every few weeks. It is a called (wait for it)... Perpetual Harvest. SOG is a closer to what Willy181 described where plants are spaced to maximize canopy and thereby yield. Here is a cut 'n paste from this useful article: An Overview of Cannabis Training (ScrOG, SoG, FIM, Supercrop, LST, etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by LOC NAR on probation
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The Sea of Green method does not involve training the plants or changing levels of auxins like what we've talked about before. Instead, SoG allows a grower to maximize a variety of cannabis while at the same time trying to dial in a strain/method that allows for the most grams per watt.
The SoG method involves growing many plants in smaller pots. Usually this is done with clones. There are quite a few different growers who utilize the SoG method in these forums. SoG can be done on smaller scales in containers such as cut 20oz soda bottles, or it can be done by utilizing taller, 1/2-3 gallon containers, with less width. By allowing for more plants under the light, one can grow many different strains without worrying about the canopies interfering with each other as much.
The idea behind smaller SoG grows is to get bud from the soil to the tip of the plant. This is a strain-dependent characteristic, but is often a desired one from SoG growers.
Let's take a look at the pros and cons of this method.
-Pros
1. Easier to grow more strains
2. Clone friendly
3. Can potentially mean increased yield
-Cons
1. Higher plant count
2. Not good for all strains
3. More time-consuming
SoG is great for some who want variety and a bunch of colas sitting in their flowering chamber. However, the small size and number of plants is just too troublesome for some. Now that we've looked at the main types of training, you can make your own decision and go out there and start maximizing your yield.
Thanks Bigsby I thought I was going a bit mad there.
I have been researching SOG for the past few months, I have a perfect area for 40 3gal soil bags on a table with about 4 incles of slope for runoff, framed 2 x 4 with nice edge table covered with BW poly. I am going to set up on timer and drip system. right now I am vegging the clones they are about 8" to 10" tall.....and I will set the whole thing up and flip them this weekend.
Not sure what to expect as i have several strains as follows:
1) Grape Romulan
2) Black Berry Kush
3) Kypronite
4) Space Queen
5) Purple berry Kush
6) Purple Dragon
I have several Blue Dream.....but I learned my lesson with those babies....they will explode and get too big for SOG.
I may be setting myself up for failure.....but I know all those strains except the Purple Dragon...and all of the other should be fine as they mostly sativa hybreds.
Nice one weeddaddy, it sounds like what I am hoping to do. If you are doing a growlog I will be following it intensely, I am currently trying to get as much info on it as possible so I make as few mistakes as possible. Hopefully it wont be too much different to a normal grow just with more plants and quicker harvests.:thumbsup:
Yeah post up a grow log and a link to it here. I'll follow along. I'm curious. I do scrog. I just completed my first grow. It is pretty easy and I can understand why it is one of the best methods for maximizing yields. I'm looking forward to doing another grow to apply all the learning I got from my first run. I used to be an out door farmer but it's just not possible any more.
Too......I have been growing outdoor for many years....indoor is a totally different aninal........and WAY.....Harder.....
not grow outdoor where I am at right now...so it's indoors for me....and I am learing tons....on this wedsite.....I read grow logs every night.
Keep up the good work
Actually, to be fair to LOC NAR on probation, sog is often associated with the perpetual harvest method. The two kind of go hand in hand. That said, you can run a perpetual harvest rotation with any grow method.Quote:
Originally Posted by willy181