Winter Grow - Indica Mix

I'm starting a new grow by putting some seed in damp paper towel. They should pop in 2-3 days and I'll put them into two window box planters. I have about 6-8 seeds each of four indica dominant strains as the last two grows were mostly sativas.

1) Vermont Bubblegum, seeds from my own grow in 2007

2) Nevilles Haze, from a European seed vendor. This strain was not haze at all, very indica looking and finished in 10 weeks in 2008. These seeds are feminized.

3) Mystery Seed, either my bubblegum or Foxy Seeds' Afghani Dream x BOG Medley from 2007

4) (Afghani Dream x BOG Medley) x Z11 indica, which is one of my creations from Afghani and Bubblegum.

Shovelhandle

i'm always down for a shov log. can't wait.

-shake

Tuned in and watchin.

Transplanted w/innoculant 16 seedlings into 6"-8" pots. Under (4) 4' T5HO Daylight florescents. 21 hr/day. Looking pretty good so far.

Shov

Watching!!! Yea your last crop of you Breeding you did with Afghaini and bubblegum x Z11 looked dank. Pumped to see it's whole cycle. How was the smoke from that btw?

Afghani Dream x BOG Medley is real good (I'm buzz-ed to the max on it this evening ;), the Z11 x Neville's Haze is curing but there should be some very nice phenos there, YUM!.
Before that I had SSH x NH, Blueberry x Bubblegum and Nevilles Haze. All those were awesome!
Early last year we had Dutch Passion Mazar, Super Silver Haze and Dutch Passion Blueberry. Each was very good in it's own way. I also ran NH, Z11 and G13 x NCDG. I had all male NH that time so I ran some seeds to get the Mr Nice Neville's Haze genetic so I crossed it with the one and only ever Z11 sativa dominant (Z 11 is a afghni x bubblegum sort of indica, though it isn't an IBL). Now I have that Z11 x NH seeds and this latest Z11 x NH selfed.

TMI?

Shov

UPDATES!!!!!?????

I potted five more seedlings so now have around 20 or so little seedlings in week three. Not looking too bad, a little fert burned from the hot soil mix but they'll get over it. I'll post photos when they get some bigger. :stoned:

Starting out with the same batch of soil as last time with the same early results, too much fertilizer. So I'll just stay with water until they pick up their heads. Today I added a 400W MH. I'll keep an eye on them.

These are (2) Bubblegum and (3) Afghani Dream x Bog Medley
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These are from a seedbag that lost it's label. I thought it may be BG or the Afghani Dream x Bog Medley. Will wait to see how they look. They certainly are good germinators! I think they popped 100%.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1290084690

These are from F2s I made from a bag I bought that was supposed to be Neville's Haze, but is certainly not any kind of haze. It's a decent indica hybrid so I'm growing it out again. I think I'll give it a new name just to make things easier. Cyril's Delight. My pal smoked some of this up with Cyril Neville, the musician and he was delighted to hear that it was named "Neville's Haze" and he enjoyed the buzz. Cyril is a big time cannabis and reggae lover and a cool musician.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1290084690

The indica grow is in it's 4th week. I transplanted all 21 plants into 3 gallon bags. Many of the plants had health root systems but the five I transplanted two weeks ago had no root improvement. There's still room for all right now. The vegetative growth has not been great. I'm still waiting to see if I can identify the question mark strain compared to the others as they should be one of the other strains. :cool:

the nutes and transplant really did good for the plants. nice dark green color on all the new growth now. :rastasmoke:

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Crap photos, but you get the idea. The plants are doing pretty well now and with the 3 gallon bags should continue to thrive. :jointsmile:

Thanks for stopping by, All!

Today I cut away the bottom 4-6 branches on each plant and tok a few clones of Bubblegum and afghani. Middle afghain is a mutant but may debvelpe yet.

Afghani Dream / Bog Medley x Z11
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1291993499

Bubblegum
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1291993499

Ceril's Choice
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1291993499

Ceril's Choice
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1291993499

Some other indicas I've yet to determine what.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1291993728

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Soil - Re-cycled potting mix which I amended with composted cow manure, fish emulsion, peat moss, and composted leaf litter.

Veg Nutes - Alaskan Fish/Kelp emulsion, Cornucopia Grow and Plant Energy formulas, Plant Success Myco, molasses, Super Thrive.

Bloom Nutes - add Cornucopia Bloom and other TBD.

Lights - 400 watt MH Sunmaster Neutral, (4) x 4' T5HO 6500K switch to HPS and 3000K florescent for bloom cycle. 19/5 lights for veg, 12/12 Bloom.
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I topped all the plants over 12" to a max of 16". I'm working in a small footprint with limited light sources and the tops have been exploding.

Also after long consideration I have decided to work with my water Ph. My well water is hard and has a Ph of 7. I've had decent grows with this and little trouble so I just left it be. I will now be correcting the water and nute formulas to a lower Ph of 6. For the water it took about a tsp/gal to lower it. I haven't tried lowering the Ph of a nute solution yet.

No additional plants showing sex yet, just a few of each strain are female so far. No males yet. I have to re-arrange the grow soon, spread out the plants and lights. I'll cop some photos then. I'll be flipping to bloom cycle in another week or so.

eek Seven: No new females showing. I trimmed a few more bottom branches and added some soil from compaction.

Afghani Dream x Bog Medley, Two females and a mutant.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1292857853

Bubblegum, one female.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1292857853

Ceril, a few females in the mix.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1292857853

Mislabeled seeds from the ADxBog/Bubblegum/Afghani grow era (could be either or neither. I'm trying to determine what known strain they resemble most). No females showing yet. Had the best germination rate by far.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1292857853

the leaves are just beautiful

PeekaBOo!! :D

Hey Shovel!

Long time no see!

I cannot grow anymore at my place, but one of my friend did grow some your stuff at his place...STRONG stuff but hermied hard...

You never stopped doing great work tho!

Happy holidays!

Hey Bone! :jointsmile:

Merry Christmas Day, All!

Cleaned the reflectors and lamps, swapped all fluorescents to 2700k -3000k. Change 400w MH to HPS. Timer set for on 6am, off 6pm. Supercropped taller branches. Fed with nutes + bloom nutes, molasses. Foliar spray nutes.

LOOKING OUTSTANDING SHOVE!!!!!!!! they came along way! some sexy ladies. Excited to see them in full bloom! always growing the danks! got my seat pulled up!!

looking great shov! :thumbsup:

It's getting way too crowded so I asked a bud if he was growing and he said not at the moment. So I borrowed another 400 watt hps so I can spread out my plants and transplant a few ladies into 5 gallon pails. If he was growing I'd have asked if he couple help finish off a few of these. Two 400 w and the T5HO side lighting should finish the plants I have here. If I have a bunch of males pop then I can cut back on the lights some..

Very pretty, Mr. Handle. Even with the Vermont heat wave we are having, I love my daily trips to my warm, gentle breeze paradise! Any new photos? I'm a subscribed indica fan.

Sex report. Of three afghani dream x bog medley two are fems and possibly one male. Of the 2 bubblegum there is one of each (tossed the male). the five cerils are all fems. A few more of the ? indica show female. I transplanted some fems into 5 gallon pails, 1 bubblegum and 4 or 5 cerils.

yellow is from the HPS lights

Afghani Dream x Bog Medley
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Bubblegum
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Ceril
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Afghani kind
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Pulled what I think may be the third and final male. So the Bubblegum went 1/2 female, the ceril was 5/5 female, the Afghani Dream x BOG was 2/3 female and the ?afghani strain went 10/11 female.

What's the fert?

Hi Polski. I'm using a few different brands.
I used Alaskan Fish/Kelp and a Cornucopia two part grow/bloom and Dr. Thomas' Plant Energy (carbolxylic acids), molasses, cal/mag, Super Thrive (vitamins) and Advance Nutrition's Big Bud. I'm out of Ph down and have used a little cider vinegar to lower Ph to 6.0-6.5.
Well water is hard and neutral Ph.
Soil is peat moss, vermiculite, composted cow manure, garden/kitchen compost and rich forest loam. As usual, the soil was a little hot and was rough on the seedlings but now they are getting strong as the soil inoculates are working well.

the tally is in. All plants now are female.
1 Bubblegum
5 Ceril
3 Afghani Dream x BOG Medley
9 Afghani (possibly bubblegum mix)

Some of the plants are getting very stretchy in spite of the topping. Also some of the plants are showing different phenos, some are sativa dominant, almost. Of course, only one Bubblegum but the other strains each have more than one pheno. I'll try and do some photos tomorrow afternoon. :hippy:

18 Girls showing their peach fuzz.

One Bubblegum
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1294429986

Three Afghani Dream x BOG Medley ( by Stinkyattic)
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Five Ceril
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1294429986

Nine Afghani type (probably Bubblegum or AD x [BOG Medley x Bubblegum]
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...1&d=1294429986

I trimmed a few more bottom branches that were not going to be budding real well. Shov :rastasmoke:

One Bubblegum
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...&d=1295113337&

Three Afghani Dream x BOG Medley
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...&d=1295113337&

Five Ceril. A couple have the Neville's Haze 'claw'.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...&d=1295113337&

Nine Afghani
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachmen...&d=1295113337&

Excellent pictures....Love the grow bags....I am using them on a Scrog right now

!!!!!! lol thos are gonna be some dankies. the bubblegum looks delectable! The Ceril is the one that really catches my eye! she looks like shes gonna have some fat colas.
now just a question what type of HPS are you using for flower?

lamps are grow lights from HTG. I am using (2) 400 watt HPS right now and will change one out to a Sunmaster MH Neutral Deluxe conversion lamp for the last four weeks.

Ceril are showing a couple of Neville's Haze phenotypes. (the original seeds were bought as "Neville's Haze" but none of them produced a sativa/haze looking plant.) These are f2 seedlings.

BTW, Ceril is one of the "Neville Brothers"

Worked on the plants today. Trimmed bottom branches and popcorn sites, watered from the bottom and fed on the top. Found one of the Afghani Dream X BOG Medley was hermie (it looked like a male in veg but was putting out all female colas until it started growing 'balls' in the lower nodes). I dumped it.

Here's the other two AD x BOG
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One Bubblegum
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Afghani 'legs'
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A few afghani kind

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Three more afghani
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Some haze I call Ceril. What looks like spider mite damage is actually some mild nute burn from the foliar feeding. It did hep them grow and look at them trics already. I'm done with foliar except a little water early in the day, when I get a chance.
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One more haze and all the plants are back in order...

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